[D'rek]

 Imperial Historian, on 05 March 2020 - 07:26 AM, said:

Why is everyone assuming I can win but completely discounting morgoth and twelve when I have less points than them?

I mean I'm flattered, but maths!

They seem a bit less capable of it.

Morgoth - has already scored the 16 influence PO, so he would have to score an SO + either the 5 tech planets PO or the spend 6 CTs PO. As of right now, it looks like he can't achieve either... probably/maybe. I wasn't too worried about him before as it seemed like Khell could always take him out, but not so much now

Twelve - his SO + any 2pt PO, which actually yeah he has a lot of influence he could spend directly or on CTs. Certainly needs keeping an eye on.

[Khellendros]

 D, on 05 March 2020 - 02:42 PM, said:

 Imperial Historian, on 05 March 2020 - 07:26 AM, said:

Why is everyone assuming I can win but completely discounting morgoth and twelve when I have less points than them?

I mean I'm flattered, but maths!

They seem a bit less capable of it.

Morgoth - has already scored the 16 influence PO, so he would have to score an SO + either the 5 tech planets PO or the spend 6 CTs PO. As of right now, it looks like he can't achieve either... probably/maybe. I wasn't too worried about him before as it seemed like Khell could always take him out, but not so much now

Twelve - his SO + any 2pt PO, which actually yeah he has a lot of influence he could spend directly or on CTs. Certainly needs keeping an eye on.

Blame Blend - he's the one who gave me my SO and has been drawing these god-awful PO IIs. I was desperate!

[twelve]

Okay Morgoth will go at some point and I'm not sure yet who all I think will get a refresh so I'm looking to stall. I think there is a decent chance I'll be needing to go through a wormhole to do some attack to give us all another round. The beta is closer to my limited ships. D'rek will you need to use the Beta wormhole to attack Toaster? I do have the action card that connects the beta and alpha but its farther away from my cruisers that can reach anything so would rather go there instead of the alpha.

Nom if D'rek has issues with the beta any chance you let me clear out the Alpha so it gives me access to the wormholes?

[D'rek]

 twelve, on 05 March 2020 - 11:33 PM, said:

Okay Morgoth will go at some point and I'm not sure yet who all I think will get a refresh so I'm looking to stall. I think there is a decent chance I'll be needing to go through a wormhole to do some attack to give us all another round. The beta is closer to my limited ships. D'rek will you need to use the Beta wormhole to attack Toaster? I do have the action card that connects the beta and alpha but its farther away from my cruisers that can reach anything so would rather go there instead of the alpha.

Nom if D'rek has issues with the beta any chance you let me clear out the Alpha so it gives me access to the wormholes?

Yes, after Khell weakened the MR fleet I think it'd be wise for me to bring a couple more ships/infantry from my southern systems through the wormhole to take Toaster's 3-planet system, to up the odds of winning both ground battles.

But yeah, if the alpha was cleared I could go that way instead.

[Morgoth]

Well, I now have the new SO and can under no circumstance win this round. Unless I manage to procure 4 hazardous planets, which seems somewhat unlikely. Oh well.

[Morgoth]

There are an equal number of GFs on both of Toasters planets, right? And a PDS on each?

[Tattersail_]

Twelve's turn, maybe waiting on Nom's response.

[Imperial Historian]

 Tattersail_, on 06 March 2020 - 11:48 AM, said:

Twelve's turn, maybe waiting on Nom's response.

Tatts would you be willing to pass your racial PN to someone to pass to me, so I could use it against Toaster/D'rek if required?

[Imperial Historian]

 Morgoth, on 06 March 2020 - 07:48 AM, said:

There are an equal number of GFs on both of Toasters planets, right? And a PDS on each?

Correct

[Imperial Historian]

I'll be waiting on the plague resolution before I make my move

[ToasTer86]

No sabotage will be played by me for this card.

!!! --- fingers crossed hoping I get lucky with the dice --- !!!

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 06 March 2020 - 12:04 PM

[Tattersail_]

@Twelve, if I target Fornacis with Unstable Planet would this be enough forthe free refresh or would you prefer a different planet?

[Tattersail_]

 Imperial Historian, on 06 March 2020 - 12:01 PM, said:

 Tattersail_, on 06 March 2020 - 11:48 AM, said:

Twelve's turn, maybe waiting on Nom's response.

Tatts would you be willing to pass your racial PN to someone to pass to me, so I could use it against Toaster/D'rek if required?

At this stage, I'd be willing to do that for anyone attacking a leader on the premise you use it straight away. If I get it back it can go back out once again to the next needing soul. I am surprised Khell did not ask for it, and if he just needed to take Rex then why not wait for D'rek to move out first? Greedy SO hunting? Destroy a greatest ship combined with Rex? Don't know, but how would we work this? If I trade it to Khell on my turn, he could trade it to you on his if he is touching you.

[Khellendros]

 Tattersail_, on 06 March 2020 - 12:12 PM, said:

 Imperial Historian, on 06 March 2020 - 12:01 PM, said:

 Tattersail_, on 06 March 2020 - 11:48 AM, said:

Twelve's turn, maybe waiting on Nom's response.

Tatts would you be willing to pass your racial PN to someone to pass to me, so I could use it against Toaster/D'rek if required?

At this stage, I'd be willing to do that for anyone attacking a leader on the premise you use it straight away. If I get it back it can go back out once again to the next needing soul. I am surprised Khell did not ask for it, and if he just needed to take Rex then why not wait for D'rek to move out first? Greedy SO hunting? Destroy a greatest ship combined with Rex? Don't know, but how would we work this? If I trade it to Khell on my turn, he could trade it to you on his if he is touching you.

I didn’t even think about your racial PN, to be honest. And I already explained why I didn’t wait: 1) I had an SO to take over Rex, and 2), I needed to play Diplomacy on Rex to refresh it so that I could claim the 16 influence PO. Achieving those was my final shot at keeping myself in with a chance of winning. I just didn’t have the actions left to wait for D’rek to move unfortunately.

[Khellendros]

But at least I got D’rek to take Null Field out of her list of options, eh?

[Khellendros]

And yeah, I can pass on the PN. I’d like to do it for the promise of a... 3:2 exchange in commodities from IH if I can get a refresh from Twelve.

[Imperial Historian]

 Khellendros, on 06 March 2020 - 12:37 PM, said:

And yeah, I can pass on the PN. I'd like to do it for the promise of a... 3:2 exchange in commodities from IH if I can get a refresh from Twelve.

No. I'd already be going out on a limb to stop Toaster, I'm not going to pay you for the privelege of passing a card to me. Especially after your latest stunt potentially endangering the whole damn plan!

[Khellendros]

 Imperial Historian, on 06 March 2020 - 12:45 PM, said:

 Khellendros, on 06 March 2020 - 12:37 PM, said:

And yeah, I can pass on the PN. I'd like to do it for the promise of a... 3:2 exchange in commodities from IH if I can get a refresh from Twelve.

No. I'd already be going out on a limb to stop Toaster, I'm not going to pay you for the privelege of passing a card to me. Especially after your latest stunt potentially endangering the whole damn plan!

Okey dokey.

[twelve]

Sorry for the delay guys. Found out my dad is going into surgery today and the usually daily stuff. Will post my move within the hour even if I get response from Nom.

[twelve]

 Tattersail_, on 06 March 2020 - 12:09 PM, said:

@Twelve, if I target Fornacis with Unstable Planet would this be enough forthe free refresh or would you prefer a different planet?

Had to look up the card and map on this one. Doesnt look like that is an influence planet nor does it even have any infanty. Use it on D'rek's 2/3 planet after Diplomacy has been played if you can to prevent D'reks ability to gain CT and you can have one.