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#3101 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 05:21 PM

Morgoth has said he is not going to attack gwynan. I'm hoping someone has exhaust a planet for 3 TG to deal with gwynan.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 05:23 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 05:21 PM, said:

Morgoth has said he is not going to attack gwynan. I'm hoping someone has exhaust a planet for 3 TG to deal with gwynan.


What the fuck Morgoth. Why do you even play.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 07:31 PM

I have Uprising

Was gonna use it on Rex to hinder Derek but you said you needed tech first
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:09 PM

Pathetic , such concrete plans to stop me. No one plans to stop D'Rek.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:13 PM

View PostD, on 02 March 2020 - 04:59 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 04:50 PM, said:

Tapper how long can you stall leadership?

I'm 95 percent confident I can remove teq/tork from the equation on turn 4 if leadership can be stalled until 5. Homeworld depends on plague result, but is probably around 80 percent probability.


I can take Teq/Tork with good odds using my Mecatol fleet before then. The 3-planet system makes for harder ground combats, so maybe it'd be better if you did that one and I did Teq/Tork, particularly if Tapper can't stall that long? (And yes, for all you worrywarts about Nullification Field that'll cost me 2 CTs and make it hard to hold my HW, so you have a damn good chance of stopping my potential win, too)

Morgoth is gonna have a hard time with Gwynan now, though, since he waited and let Toaster build the PDS. I guess if we're not going for the HW he can use Plague there.

Has Nom confirmed he'll hit Thibah?


Okay, I *said* I could do Tek/Torq, but Tapper just stole my "In the Silence of Space" so now it's gonna be harder for me to get there :( So ya, maybe IH has to do Tek/Torq and I can do the 3-planet system (then Khell can come pew pew me there if he wants)

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 10:37 PM

View PostD, on 02 March 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostD, on 02 March 2020 - 04:59 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 04:50 PM, said:

Tapper how long can you stall leadership?

I'm 95 percent confident I can remove teq/tork from the equation on turn 4 if leadership can be stalled until 5. Homeworld depends on plague result, but is probably around 80 percent probability.


I can take Teq/Tork with good odds using my Mecatol fleet before then. The 3-planet system makes for harder ground combats, so maybe it'd be better if you did that one and I did Teq/Tork, particularly if Tapper can't stall that long? (And yes, for all you worrywarts about Nullification Field that'll cost me 2 CTs and make it hard to hold my HW, so you have a damn good chance of stopping my potential win, too)

Morgoth is gonna have a hard time with Gwynan now, though, since he waited and let Toaster build the PDS. I guess if we're not going for the HW he can use Plague there.

Has Nom confirmed he'll hit Thibah?


Okay, I *said* I could do Tek/Torq, but Tapper just stole my "In the Silence of Space" so now it's gonna be harder for me to get there :( So ya, maybe IH has to do Tek/Torq and I can do the 3-planet system (then Khell can come pew pew me there if he wants)


That only works if Tapper can stall that long. Can you not get lwd d'rek?
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 10:38 PM

View PostItwæs Nom, on 02 March 2020 - 07:31 PM, said:

I have Uprising

Was gonna use it on Rex to hinder Derek but you said you needed tech first


Khell needed it. Uprising woukd probably have been the better play though. Oh well using it on Toaster probably helps.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 10:39 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 02 March 2020 - 09:09 PM, said:

Pathetic , such concrete plans to stop me. No one plans to stop D'Rek.


You have the card which opens up options to attack d'rek, you are choosing not to use it. This is your plan too, d'rek using moves to attack you...
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 10:55 PM

Any bad repercussions if I play Diplomacy now? I had planned to wait another turn, but presumably I don’t want to ‘weaken’ D’rek before she has a chance to do the same ro Toaster?
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 11:11 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 10:37 PM, said:

View PostD, on 02 March 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostD, on 02 March 2020 - 04:59 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 04:50 PM, said:

Tapper how long can you stall leadership?

I'm 95 percent confident I can remove teq/tork from the equation on turn 4 if leadership can be stalled until 5. Homeworld depends on plague result, but is probably around 80 percent probability.


I can take Teq/Tork with good odds using my Mecatol fleet before then. The 3-planet system makes for harder ground combats, so maybe it'd be better if you did that one and I did Teq/Tork, particularly if Tapper can't stall that long? (And yes, for all you worrywarts about Nullification Field that'll cost me 2 CTs and make it hard to hold my HW, so you have a damn good chance of stopping my potential win, too)

Morgoth is gonna have a hard time with Gwynan now, though, since he waited and let Toaster build the PDS. I guess if we're not going for the HW he can use Plague there.

Has Nom confirmed he'll hit Thibah?


Okay, I *said* I could do Tek/Torq, but Tapper just stole my "In the Silence of Space" so now it's gonna be harder for me to get there :( So ya, maybe IH has to do Tek/Torq and I can do the 3-planet system (then Khell can come pew pew me there if he wants)


That only works if Tapper can stall that long. Can you not get lwd d'rek?


True, and that might be an untenably long stall, though we should definitely find out from how long he can go as that makes a big difference for our planning. Too bad he didn't steal an "as an action" action card from me.

As for getting LWD, yes, I suppose I could copy it from you or Tapper. I don't suppose you'd be willing to send a lone cruiser at me for me to copy it from? With IH blocking the space between us and the current wormhole layouts I can't actually get to you, and unfortunately Tapper didn't completely take any of Tatts' systems so all of the systems I could reach with Tapper in them also still have Tatts' units in them.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 11:41 PM

You have plenty of access to khell, he has all those tech planets.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 11:42 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 02 March 2020 - 10:55 PM, said:

Any bad repercussions if I play Diplomacy now? I had planned to wait another turn, but presumably I don’t want to ‘weaken’ D’rek before she has a chance to do the same ro Toaster?


Now or next turn I don't think it makes a difference.
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Posted 03 March 2020 - 04:03 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 11:41 PM, said:

You have plenty of access to khell, he has all those tech planets.


Oh yeah :doh: I actually completely forgot he was over there. Would help if I actually looked at the map again.

Though if I send a lone cruiser against that carrier and 3 fighters, there's a chance it might actually lose without getting a single shot off, even with a fighter escort. And if I send more than that my odds of actually beating Toaster at Teku/Torq start going down.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 03 March 2020 - 06:58 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 10:39 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 02 March 2020 - 09:09 PM, said:

Pathetic , such concrete plans to stop me. No one plans to stop D'Rek.


You have the card which opens up options to attack d'rek, you are choosing not to use it. This is your plan too, d'rek using moves to attack you...


No you are all making deals with each other, passing TG / coordinating action cards.
All I am asking for me to use the ghost PN is to place a ship in the empty space above the nebulea and no one is answering or offering .

So everyone is wheeling and dealing, but no one is willing to do so with me.

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Posted 03 March 2020 - 07:38 AM

View PostToasTer86, on 03 March 2020 - 06:58 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 10:39 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 02 March 2020 - 09:09 PM, said:

Pathetic , such concrete plans to stop me. No one plans to stop D'Rek.


You have the card which opens up options to attack d'rek, you are choosing not to use it. This is your plan too, d'rek using moves to attack you...


No you are all making deals with each other, passing TG / coordinating action cards.
All I am asking for me to use the ghost PN is to place a ship in the empty space above the nebulea and no one is answering or offering .

So everyone is wheeling and dealing, but no one is willing to do so with me.


Yes because you are about to win before anyone can score. D'rek will win after everyone scores, so is slightly better. If you couldn't win all the energy would be focused on d'rek.

If the ghost PN was in the mix we'd all be planning attacks on d'rek.

What you actually want is for people to promise not to be able to place a wormhole in the system above the nebularight? How about you get morgoth to agree not to hand out the PN to anyone unless they agree not to place it there.

Or figure out how to counter all these out in the open plans.

This isn't personal it's what would happen to anyone in your position.

I'm actually surprised noone is planning attacks on me morgoth abd twelve as we also might win.
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Posted 03 March 2020 - 08:02 AM

View PostD, on 03 March 2020 - 04:03 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 11:41 PM, said:

You have plenty of access to khell, he has all those tech planets.


Oh yeah :doh: I actually completely forgot he was over there. Would help if I actually looked at the map again.

Though if I send a lone cruiser against that carrier and 3 fighters, there's a chance it might actually lose without getting a single shot off, even with a fighter escort. And if I send more than that my odds of actually beating Toaster at Teku/Torq start going down.


Sure cruiser and a fighter gives you 2 percent odds of not getting a kill before dying... Risky business.
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Posted 03 March 2020 - 08:04 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 02 March 2020 - 04:50 PM, said:

Tapper how long can you stall leadership?

I'm 95 percent confident I can remove teq/tork from the equation on turn 4 if leadership can be stalled until 5. Homeworld depends on plague result, but is probably around 80 percent probability.

I can stall for 2 more ACs and a move.
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Posted 03 March 2020 - 08:36 AM

Ok Because I am getting triggered and an unhealthy obsession and bad mood by all this stuff. I will just stop caring, I will activate system above nebulea and activate ghost pn.
As well as following any strategy card played.

I give up, good luck stopping D'rek or the rest.

I can just get so mad at this game sometimes, when people just decide arbitrarily who should win or loose.
The forum is not making it any better for me.

So I am out, I will not be playing any future game with more then 6 people as well.

Have fun guys

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Posted 03 March 2020 - 08:40 AM

Toaster you're like me, caring so much, being so invested. Remember, it is only a game, the Alpha wormhole down south gives us options. Why are you not able to place something in the hex you want?

EDIT;

Move the carrier from Tequ'ran. It cannot give much better odds in a fight anyway.

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 03 March 2020 - 08:43 AM

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Posted 03 March 2020 - 08:47 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 03 March 2020 - 08:40 AM, said:

Toaster you're like me, caring so much, being so invested. Remember, it is only a game, the Alpha wormhole down south gives us options. Why are you not able to place something in the hex you want?

EDIT;

Move the carrier from Tequ'ran. It cannot give much better odds in a fight anyway.


Will do that, it will up the influence I need from 4 ( +2 TG) to 7 (+2 TG) to get 6 tokens.
But Like I said , I pass on winning. I need to stop caring, as I take it personal when people start working against me for no reason.
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