[Itwæs Nom]

Yes

[D'rek]

Gah, you should have waited a minute, I had another possible idea that would make everyone but Twelve happy...

[Itwæs Nom]

Oh well

[D'rek]

Actually, this might still work. Just the timing might suck for Silvano. Hopefully I can hold off Diplo.

Since you and I are both taking inefficient steps compared to what we would have done otherwise, in order to help Toaster, I don't think Toaster should give the wormhole PN to Jazz, though.

[Itwæs Nom]

I see

[Itwæs Nom]

Yeah exactly the same conclusion could have been achieved with the Silvano move

Atleast Toaster sees how good a neighbour I am

[Tattersail_]

 Jazzarm, on 19 November 2019 - 04:46 PM, said:

 Tattersail_, on 19 November 2019 - 04:16 PM, said:

After claiming Wellon, I don't intend to leave ships there. So you can still have movement through Wellon.

So there won't be ships over Wellon at the end of this round?

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So what are your thoughts? I think you need to move a ship into Abys/Fria so that a wormhole cannot be placed there. You may use warfare to do that? How many moves do you have? What are you asking me to do?

I appreciate your concerns but I have neither the small ships nor the tokens to start gumming up my works. My protection against wormhole invasion are my ships that are ready to retaliate against any such attempt. Not to mention the players in charge of wormhole movement right now have been attacked by the Virus and have had mutually beneficial dealings with me. I hope that counts for something.

I'll not move in straight away. Is that what you're asking? You still want connection to Morgoth?

[twelve]

 D, on 19 November 2019 - 02:23 PM, said:

@Twelve - Didn't want to say this until after Toaster's turn, lest he move the wormhole. So let's talk. Your purpose in taking Bereg/Lirta is to get 4 hazardous planets for the 4-of-one-type objective, right? You already have 3 hazardous planets, so it's not like you need a double-hazardous system, any 1 more hazardous planet will do.

Let's say you go for Bereg/Lirta. Tech hasn't been played yet, so no assault cannon. I've got experimental battlestation and another shields holding (assuming the battle in MR doesn't use it), though you probably have a sabotage. Then you take it and have to hold it against my next turn where I can try to retake it. Probably you will have to build reinforcements just in case I send everything I have at it, and conversely if I don't think I can beat it I am able to attack your other hexes instead.

But alternatively... the wormhole is still open. I've got a hazardous planet in the triple-planet hex, and you only need one. No experimental battlestation, no bad relations with neighbours, no counterattack into your other hexes. The only repercussion you'd face would be from the Naalu, and they just moved a bunch of ships they would have available to retaliate into the nebula so those are locked down. Plus they basically have nothing but fighters - you could simply build a few cheap destroyers upon your landing and shred any attempted retaliation. And bonus, then, you can keep the hex for the rest of the game if you want, it doesn't expose the rest of your systems at all.

Yeah I was hoping this would remain an option but didnt expect it to be. Let me catch up on thread and give me a chance to look at the map

[twelve]

 D, on 19 November 2019 - 02:42 PM, said:

 Itwæs Nom, on 19 November 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

Well I have had this deal with naalu where I take Fornacis for myself that you've already sabotaged once

Ohhh. I did not know that. Sorry! Well, it'll be up to Twelve to decide what he wants to do.

There is yet another alternative - Toaster could give Twelve the wormhole PN and Twelve could use it to go to yet another hazardous planet system like, say, Abyz/Fria.

Yeah that was my plan before everyone and their dog kept pinning after the wormhole pn especially with Jazz trying to take Rex from me. Problem is I dont neighbor him so cant do the trade.

[twelve]

So both of the wormholes are now blocked... that is unfortunate. Well this complicates things even further.

[twelve]

Sigh. Me and my big mouth. I always seem to shoot myself in the foot by saying more than I should.

[twelve]

So its Tatts then me right?

[ToasTer86]

Will get back to you Nom. Thanks for taking our the Nekro and blocking it .
I owe you one.

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 19 November 2019 - 09:13 PM

[Tattersail_]

Jazz?

[Tattersail_]

I'll post my move before bed

[Khellendros]

 Tattersail_, on 19 November 2019 - 10:12 PM, said:

I'll post my move before bed

It's twenty minutes past your bedtime!

[Jazzarm]

Tattersail_ said:

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Jazz?

You're good to go. If Naalu doesn't use the iff early this round I can't buy it until agenda phase anyway. And the beta wormhole is blocked now, so I won't be able to make any plays here.

[ToasTer86]

It is back to jazz again. Already ?
You want IFF to move B right. Or I can move it for you

[ToasTer86]

Let me know I can trade it for you.
But I want the B moved

This post has been edited by ToasTer86: 20 November 2019 - 05:42 AM

[Tattersail_]

Jazz then Khell