[Venesara]

Gait, on 20 August 2019 - 01:28 PM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 20 August 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

It stinks more because of the time left in day and the two main suspects. Gamelon leaving off Shel like we should "look" there instead of at Barg?




I think Gamelon may be the best lynch for today for doing that.

Supposing Gamelon is partnered with either Barg or Shel, the question becomes: why not vote for the other one?

If he's partnered with Shel, I kind of think that he would've put Barg at equal votes rather than voting Kilava. He had already named Barg one of his main suspects so the set up was there. If he's partnered with Barg on the other hand, I can see him staying away from the Shel train. Shel looked more likely to be lynched (even calling himself the "prime lynch candidate") and if he's innocent then Gam could've turned around and played the off-train "told you so" card much like with GL.

I'm leaning Gam/Barg right now, it seems more plausible to me. I think I prefer to

Vote Barghast

Because I dislike the sense that he was setting up a railroad tomorrow, and because Shel/Barg strikes me as more plausible than Gam being partnered with Shel but choosing not to put Barg to parity.

Your first assumption with this whole post is that Gamelon is scum. And he had votes on him when you said all this. And even though you're SURE Gamelon is scum, you want to vote whoever is maybe his partner. Instead of Gamelon.

Seriously? With that much time left in the day? Your vote was useless before, this whole post is a bunch of bullshit with no vote behind it, and now we have to look at Barg's post on you more clearly, hopefully this isn't all wasted OMGUS. In fact if you can't vote to get a lynch it calls into question your whole playstyle, really.

[Venesara]

Sorry I meant your post was bullshit with a bullshit vote. Not no vote. CORRECTION REQUIRED

[Sheltatha Lore]

Wow, I was totally expecting to wake up dead with everyone head nodding with Barg. I am locked on Barg btw and will not switch. I need to see the scum CF before putting it all together. I like the case of distancing between Kilava and Barg, but I also think there is something with Gait. The latter has been on my radar all game, and watching some interactions between Gait and Barg would make sense when Barg CFs scum.

[Gait]

Barghast, on 20 August 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Gait opens D3 with a vote on Prazec [...] The pattern continues

I disagree with this piece of analysis. You start by saying that I've been going after coasters but then Day 3 rolls around and I push for one of the most active players on thread "the pattern continues". That feels like a stretch. If I was pushing for easy coasters I could've simply pushed back onto Gamelon who was getting mentioned plenty. Nevermind that I'm also currently voting for you.

Barghast, on 20 August 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

What bothers me here is that Gait is very reluctant to look at lynch trains. They are on D1 and D2 trains so that could be why they're waving it away as a valid tactic.

I feel that you're persistently mis-presenting my view here. I dislike people pushing the idea that "scum must be amongst this specific group" based on abstract hypotheticals because it conveniently sets up future lynches. There's a major distinction between that and being reluctant to look at people's voting behaviour (which I've been doing myself). If someone brings forward a convincing case based on train analysis then I'm all for it. What I dislike is you nudging the thread towards future lynches - without actually presenting train analysis beyond "there seems to have been a vague agreement before that there would have been scum on the Galayn train" which then weirdly transforms into "I can't deny the logic of scum being on Galayn train".

[Prazec Goul]

Sheltatha Lore, on 20 August 2019 - 03:44 PM, said:

Wow, I was totally expecting to wake up dead with everyone head nodding with Barg. I am locked on Barg btw and will not switch. I need to see the scum CF before putting it all together. I like the case of distancing between Kilava and Barg, but I also think there is something with Gait. The latter has been on my radar all game, and watching some interactions between Gait and Barg would make sense when Barg CFs scum.

What was with your reveal? If you expected to be dead then you'd not have been able to reveal would you? Care to explain?

[Prazec Goul]

11 minutes left

[Gait]

Venesara, on 20 August 2019 - 03:37 PM, said:

Gait, on 20 August 2019 - 01:28 PM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 20 August 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

It stinks more because of the time left in day and the two main suspects. Gamelon leaving off Shel like we should "look" there instead of at Barg?




I think Gamelon may be the best lynch for today for doing that.

Supposing Gamelon is partnered with either Barg or Shel, the question becomes: why not vote for the other one?

If he's partnered with Shel, I kind of think that he would've put Barg at equal votes rather than voting Kilava. He had already named Barg one of his main suspects so the set up was there. If he's partnered with Barg on the other hand, I can see him staying away from the Shel train. Shel looked more likely to be lynched (even calling himself the "prime lynch candidate") and if he's innocent then Gam could've turned around and played the off-train "told you so" card much like with GL.

I'm leaning Gam/Barg right now, it seems more plausible to me. I think I prefer to

Vote Barghast

Because I dislike the sense that he was setting up a railroad tomorrow, and because Shel/Barg strikes me as more plausible than Gam being partnered with Shel but choosing not to put Barg to parity.

Your first assumption with this whole post is that Gamelon is scum. And he had votes on him when you said all this. And even though you're SURE Gamelon is scum, you want to vote whoever is maybe his partner. Instead of Gamelon.

There's a reason I said "suppose".

I am obviously not sure Gamelon is scum; hence why I said I prefer Barghast based on Barghast's own behaviour, and the fact that I find Barg/Shel more likely than Gam/Shel.

[Prazec Goul]

With some people's unwillingness to switch then I'll switch. For me though Sheltatha and Gamelon should not get free passes.

Remove vote

Vote Barghast

[Gait]

Remove vote
Vote Gamelon

Because it looks like the most possible lynch.

[Gait]

Remove vote
Vote Barghast

X-post, I take it back lol.

[Gait]

Here and happy to vote either for a lynch. Who else is around, which is actually possible?

We have 6 anons ffs.

[Prazec Goul]

None of this fucking around now otherwise we won't get the fucking lynch.

[Barghast]

Sheltatha Lore, on 20 August 2019 - 03:44 PM, said:

Wow, I was totally expecting to wake up dead with everyone head nodding with Barg. I am locked on Barg btw and will not switch. I need to see the scum CF before putting it all together. I like the case of distancing between Kilava and Barg, but I also think there is something with Gait. The latter has been on my radar all game, and watching some interactions between Gait and Barg would make sense when Barg CFs scum.

I'm distancing from so many people it almost looks like I'm

gasp

town.

Gait, on 20 August 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:

Barghast, on 20 August 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Gait opens D3 with a vote on Prazec [...] The pattern continues

I disagree with this piece of analysis. You start by saying that I've been going after coasters but then Day 3 rolls around and I push for one of the most active players on thread "the pattern continues". That feels like a stretch. If I was pushing for easy coasters I could've simply pushed back onto Gamelon who was getting mentioned plenty. Nevermind that I'm also currently voting for you.

Barghast, on 20 August 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

What bothers me here is that Gait is very reluctant to look at lynch trains. They are on D1 and D2 trains so that could be why they're waving it away as a valid tactic.

I feel that you're persistently mis-presenting my view here. I dislike people pushing the idea that "scum must be amongst this specific group" based on abstract hypotheticals because it conveniently sets up future lynches. There's a major distinction between that and being reluctant to look at people's voting behaviour (which I've been doing myself). If someone brings forward a convincing case based on train analysis then I'm all for it. What I dislike is you nudging the thread towards future lynches - without actually presenting train analysis beyond "there seems to have been a vague agreement before that there would have been scum on the Galayn train" which then weirdly transforms into "I can't deny the logic of scum being on Galayn train".

I already said that I find the assumption (brought forward by Prazec) that there was scum on the Galayn train entirely plausible and logical. I played enough Mafia to stand by that. You can wave it away all you want saying I'm railroading or setting up future lynches.

[Venesara]

Remove Vote

Vote Barghast

[Venesara]

In case something dumb with the hammer happens. Sigh.

[Prazec Goul]

Venesara with your vote we get the lynch, we cannot rely on Rikkter because of how drunk he is, Shel will not switch, Gam is gone. I think it leaves Barg as the only possible lynch at this stage.

[Sheltatha Lore]

I guess I have to commit. I figured if I woke up dead you all would know anyway and no one was talking about it, so I just let it slide.

To start with, that potato line makes you legit. That is the key word for a roled town, so yes Ven, you and I are innocent in my mind.

The reason there are 2 roles is I am a guard. I can do nothing until one of the paired scum are dead.

[Prazec Goul]

Fingers crossed here.

[Kilava]

We're the closest to lynch barghast it seems. What do we need to get the lynch guys?

[Venesara]

Prazec Goul, on 20 August 2019 - 03:53 PM, said:

Venesara with your vote we get the lynch, we cannot rely on Rikkter because of how drunk he is, Shel will not switch, Gam is gone. I think it leaves Barg as the only possible lynch at this stage.

Yeah I don't like it but that's what we have.