Okay, I decided to read through Day 2 with a focus on looking to see who might have given credence to my accusation of Prazec as scum, perhaps with a view to starting momentum for a lynch after GL. Unfortunately, this did not pan out as much as I had hoped, because discussion of GL absolutely dominated (for reasons I still do not understand, that lynch never made much sense to me).
Anyways, going off on a tangent before getting to more serious stuff next, the initial thing that jumped out at me is that the first person to defend Prazec and be dismissive about my vote was...Venesara the Healed. Now if I was paranoid, I would say that was eeenteresting. But actually, perhaps this was the reason why Prazec chose to heal Venesara, although he didn't say as much when I asked.
Venesara, on 15 August 2019 - 07:57 AM, said:
Gamelon, on 15 August 2019 - 12:38 AM, said:
Prazec Goul, on 14 August 2019 - 10:17 PM, said:
After reading up I think Rikkter would be a good vote. I've got good vibes from Ven, Sheltatha, Gait and Barghast for different reasons. I'll explain further tomorrow. Bad vibes from Kilava, Rikkter, Galayn Lord and Gamelon.
Okay to expand on that, I don't like Kilavas defense of Rikkter at all but maybe they've muddied things on purpose. All this arguing on thread back and forth yet, even though present, it feels like Gamelon and Galayn Lord didn't join in. Killers letting us argue amongst ourselves?
Like I said I'll read up and try to expand my thoughts further tomorrow.
Hmm, who else hasn't been around for the arguing back and forth, I feel like someone's missing from this list, can't quite put my finger on it, who could it be...
Wait, wait, it couldn't be Prazec himself could it? Surely he wouldn't label people who weren't around for the arguing as suspicious just on that when he himself also fits into that category? Would he? I mean, it would so audacious as to verge on the moronic!
I say Prazec is a killer. They expressed a happiness to vote for Gait before they came on (which I thought was reasonable at the time but some of you guys seem to think is a 'bad thing', so I'm putting it in here), they come on and 1) just echo an argument already made by others without adding anything further, and 2) highlight the lesser-posting players because they feel that's an easy non-confrontational target. Not to mention they've managed to pick out four players out of nine - eight not including themselves. Don't stick your neck out so much Prazec!
Vote Prazec Goul
For hypocritical reasoning, which as we all know is a scum trait. But for reals, this here is a killer y'all.
Wow, this post is terrible. Did you say anything? All I see is a vote. Jolly sarcasm is not convincing. You say PG is a killer because they voted Gait - which you still think is reasonable (!?) - but you're gonna use the reasons "some of you guys" have to drop a vote? What the fuck. Gotta look at this later.
Okay, on to the stuff I actually set out to search for:
The first person to voice some agreement with me on Prazec is Rikkter
Rikkter, on 15 August 2019 - 02:32 PM, said:
Ok, I just got caught up and reread that last hour before the failed lynch.
One thing that strikes me as odd is that Barghast and Gait made a big push for me as lynch du jour immediately after I said I would be unavailable. There were other options out there, but they went after the one that couldn't defend themselves.
Next is Prazec. I pretty much agree with what others have been saying here. He is conveniently too late to the party, and that post where he lists the people he trusts and the ones he doesn't is a bit over the top. This is day 1 on Mafia. How could you POSSIBLY have good feelings about anyone yet? After several days yes, but I for one don't trust anyone yet.
Last the talk on GL. Yeah, when strung together it does look like he's coasting. I'd like to see how he plays now that the real game is afoot.
My main focus at the moment is Barghast, Gait and Prazec. While I think it is likely that one killer would be in the 4 that voted me, I suspect that the other killer either voted somewhere else or didn't vote at all. My gut is telling me that this looks like Prazec.
It also stood out to me that for all the mentions of Barghast's posting being sensible by just about everyone other than Sheltatha, they sure have been off on quite a few things. As in the post below, about Prazec, Galayn Lord, and me (though you can't know that last for sure as yet, I suppose you'll just have to trust me on it
). Yep, that Galayn 'case' sure looked super "solid."
Barghast, on 15 August 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:
D2:
Ugh, Prazec's stream of consciousness puts me on the fence. He throws out a lot of shit to see what sticks. That looks way off to me because I like to do when I'm scum 
But then it's hard to really put a finger on any misstep there. Prazec was first to point out Galayn's coasting and they also got Gamelon to talk themselves into this mess:
Gamelon, on 15 August 2019 - 12:38 AM, said:
Prazec Goul, on 14 August 2019 - 10:17 PM, said:
After reading up I think Rikkter would be a good vote. I've got good vibes from Ven, Sheltatha, Gait and Barghast for different reasons. I'll explain further tomorrow. Bad vibes from Kilava, Rikkter, Galayn Lord and Gamelon.
Okay to expand on that, I don't like Kilavas defense of Rikkter at all but maybe they've muddied things on purpose. All this arguing on thread back and forth yet, even though present, it feels like Gamelon and Galayn Lord didn't join in. Killers letting us argue amongst ourselves?
Like I said I'll read up and try to expand my thoughts further tomorrow.
Hmm, who else hasn't been around for the arguing back and forth, I feel like someone's missing from this list, can't quite put my finger on it, who could it be...
Wait, wait, it couldn't be Prazec himself could it? Surely he wouldn't label people who weren't around for the arguing as suspicious just on that when he himself also fits into that category? Would he? I mean, it would so audacious as to verge on the moronic!
I say Prazec is a killer. They expressed a happiness to vote for Gait before they came on (which I thought was reasonable at the time but some of you guys seem to think is a 'bad thing', so I'm putting it in here), they come on and 1) just echo an argument already made by others without adding anything further, and 2) highlight the lesser-posting players because they feel that's an easy non-confrontational target. Not to mention they've managed to pick out four players out of nine - eight not including themselves. Don't stick your neck out so much Prazec!
Vote Prazec Goul
For hypocritical reasoning, which as we all know is a scum trait. But for reals, this here is a killer y'all.
. And then we have more of the same:
Gamelon, on 15 August 2019 - 01:09 PM, said:
Obviously your post hit a nerve Prazec otherwise I wouldn't have voted for you. And I said exactly why that was already. And I don't see GL defending me in that post, so you keep doing you scumboy.
I'm currently considering Kilava, Gamelon, or Galayn for a vote. Not gonna do it yet because I don't want to put Galayn at L-2 and Kilava hasn't spoken today yet. But I'm around for a few more hours and planning to cast a vote before bedtime. I should also be around for the timeout.
Gait decides to latch on to my Prazec accusation once the GL lynch looks like it might have the potential to stall when GL votes for themselves.
Gait, on 15 August 2019 - 11:19 PM, said:
Gamelon, on 15 August 2019 - 10:48 PM, said:
If you want it in non-sarcastic speech - Prazec has been expressing favour for voting for whatever the de jour vote happens to be, but without actually doing much voting, instead waiting to see if the wind does indeed head in that direction.
I actually think that's quite an astute observation.
Prazec said earlier that Gamelon was his top pick for scum. Gamelon currently only has one vote. It's hardly like you'd be dropping the hammer by adding yours. If you're town, why not put a vote on to make your top pick a more feasible option for a lynch? Why wait to "see what's what"? What exactly are you waiting for?
And Rikkter again voices the suspicion of Prazec at the end of the day, essentially setting up for their planned direction on day 3 following GL's lynch (where it not for Prazec's reveal today).
Rikkter, on 16 August 2019 - 01:51 AM, said:
OK, I'm done. If not for GL, I probably would have wanted to pursue Prazec's dodginess. But, I will be asleep at timeout, and I think this lynch needs to happen.
vote Galayn Lord
So what do I get from any of that. Well, Gait and Rikkter I think. They seemed most like the ones continuing to want a GL lynch after their self vote and beginning to voice a direction for the following day's lynch. Yes, Gait did vote for Rikkter on day 1, but that was the 4th vote from 6 needed, with only about ten minutes remaining till end of day. A calculated gamble to distance?
Now I didn't mention Sheltatha at all in there. I was surprised by how little there was to actually mention. Aside from their Barghast vote today there's hardly anything of substance to latch on to.
Has day been unfrozen yet?
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Sheltatha Lore, on 17 August 2019 - 04:14 PM, said:
), I think we have to lynch Galayn because we cannot afford to go into late-game with the baggage of their self-vote. Too much doubt. But I was in no rush, which I also said explicitly. Why end the day quickly if someone still might bring new information or an interesting case to the table? And around the scheduled timeout we did have three people on thread: me, Prazec, and Gait. And we even discussed why Gait and Rikkter rushed the lynch.
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