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#621 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:43 PM

View Posttwelve, on 08 August 2019 - 04:41 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 08 August 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:

If a unit moved into a system with a space dock and no other units, does that trigger a space battle and a chance to retreat, or is the dock automatically destroyed?

Are you looking to do this?

No i was just curious what would happen. Surprised me you'd do it as people potentially could.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:46 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 08 August 2019 - 04:40 PM, said:

Alright, I'll just wait to get confirmation from Morgoth/Drek about ground combat instructions, then I'll complete that combat and upload the new map!


What happened to morgoths fighter in that fight? Also as written wouldn't morgoth have to destroy a fighter anf ground force due to capacity restrictions. Destroying his fighter instead of cruiser resolves those issues...
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:48 PM

With the way you resolved the battle, Blend, two cruisers dying leaves only 2 and thus only 2 infantry can be supported so Morgoth would have to remove 1 infantry before the invasion step.

However, I think you missed that he had a fighter?

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:49 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 08 August 2019 - 04:46 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 08 August 2019 - 04:40 PM, said:

Alright, I'll just wait to get confirmation from Morgoth/Drek about ground combat instructions, then I'll complete that combat and upload the new map!


What happened to morgoths fighter in that fight? Also as written wouldn't morgoth have to destroy a fighter anf ground force due to capacity restrictions. Destroying his fighter instead of cruiser resolves those issues...


I honestly missed the fighter. I'll update accordingly, but just as an FYI - infantry are only considered ON SHIPS during movement, otherwise they are in the space area of the hex and can be used for invasion. If, at the end of a tactical action, there are more infantry/fighters in the space area than there is capacity, you destroy infantry/fighters at THAT point.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:49 PM

Also, I think Morgoth didn't deduct a tactical CT?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:50 PM

View PostD, on 08 August 2019 - 04:48 PM, said:

With the way you resolved the battle, Blend, two cruisers dying leaves only 2 and thus only 2 infantry can be supported so Morgoth would have to remove 1 infantry before the invasion step.

However, I think you missed that he had a fighter?


My understanding is that they remain in the space area until end of the tactical action, so even if he no longer had capacity, he could still use those infantry to invade.

I DID miss the fighter, so will update as IH suggested above, but yeah, am I misunderstanding how that works?
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:50 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 08 August 2019 - 04:49 PM, said:

If, at the end of a tactical action, there are more infantry/fighters in the space area than there is capacity, you destroy infantry/fighters at THAT point.


At the end of COMBAT, not the end of a tactical action.

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View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:54 PM

View PostD, on 08 August 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 08 August 2019 - 04:49 PM, said:

If, at the end of a tactical action, there are more infantry/fighters in the space area than there is capacity, you destroy infantry/fighters at THAT point.


At the end of COMBAT, not the end of a tactical action.

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Thanks Drek! Good to know!
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 04:55 PM

View PostD, on 08 August 2019 - 04:49 PM, said:

Also, I think Morgoth didn't deduct a tactical CT?


Correct, I have updated accordingly.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 05:02 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 08 August 2019 - 04:43 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 08 August 2019 - 04:41 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 08 August 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:

If a unit moved into a system with a space dock and no other units, does that trigger a space battle and a chance to retreat, or is the dock automatically destroyed?

Are you looking to do this?

No i was just curious what would happen. Surprised me you'd do it as people potentially could.

Well I did want it with my main fleet. But after looking at the map I decided to risk it. Only Morgoth, D'rek (with her action card) or Gnaw can actually reach it (that I'm aware of at any rate) of those I can only see Gnaw actually trying to kill it. But with his limited tokens I figure he would want to bolster his homeworld instead of wasting an action to kill a space dock. But Gnaw doesn't do logical so I probably threw away a token on it anyway but if I don't have to fight him in Starpoint New Albion that wouldn't be too bad a loss.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:41 PM

D'rek you are posting out of turn again
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:45 PM

Sorry!

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:45 PM

that was an annoying carrier.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:47 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 08 August 2019 - 07:45 PM, said:

that was an annoying carrier.

D'rek's carriers have a history of being annoying.
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Posted 08 August 2019 - 11:03 PM

View Posttwelve, on 08 August 2019 - 07:47 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 08 August 2019 - 07:45 PM, said:

that was an annoying carrier.

D'rek's carriers have has a history of being annoying.


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Posted 08 August 2019 - 11:38 PM

View PostGnaw, on 08 August 2019 - 11:03 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 08 August 2019 - 07:47 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 08 August 2019 - 07:45 PM, said:

that was an annoying carrier.

D'rek's carriers have has a history of being annoying.


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Yeah she hasn't been the nicest to you in these games has she.

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 11:52 PM

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:35 AM

Give Khell my SftT.
Give Morgoth my Racial.
Give IH my Trade Agreement.

Wait what? It's not just me that this wasn't discussed at all...

Thanks I guess?

I think you'd have been better off trading stuff for something of value so you had a better chance of survival though...
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Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:45 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 09 August 2019 - 10:35 AM, said:

Give Khell my SftT.
Give Morgoth my Racial.
Give IH my Trade Agreement.

Wait what? It's not just me that this wasn't discussed at all...

Thanks I guess?

I think you'd have been better off trading stuff for something of value so you had a better chance of survival though...


Oh this is awkward, IH wasn’t in our private group chat of secret deals.
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Posted 09 August 2019 - 10:49 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 09 August 2019 - 10:45 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 09 August 2019 - 10:35 AM, said:

Give Khell my SftT.
Give Morgoth my Racial.
Give IH my Trade Agreement.

Wait what? It's not just me that this wasn't discussed at all...

Thanks I guess?

I think you'd have been better off trading stuff for something of value so you had a better chance of survival though...


Oh this is awkward, IH wasn't in our private group chat of secret deals.


Aw man I missed the secret deals? I love secret deals!
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