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#561 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 12:31 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.

Probably going to move on Rex to stop khell scoring imperial.

Twelve are we going to have a problem if I make a move on your vacated planets? I'd like to score multiple ships next to rex.


Ah but if you try and invade this turn I will never let you have my racial PN.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 12:45 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.


Sorry guys, didn't get a chance to do one last night. I'll resolve what's left of the battles in today's actions, but the map updated won't happen for about 10-12 hours.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 01:45 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.

Probably going to move on Rex to stop khell scoring imperial.

Twelve are we going to have a problem if I make a move on your vacated planets? I'd like to score multiple ships next to rex.

Ships no infantry yes. Unless forfeiting Zohbat will lower the cost of your racial. My ceasefire is off the table unless I get yours in return.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 03:38 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 30 July 2019 - 12:31 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.

Probably going to move on Rex to stop khell scoring imperial.

Twelve are we going to have a problem if I make a move on your vacated planets? I'd like to score multiple ships next to rex.


Ah but if you try and invade this turn I will never let you have my racial PN.


Well since you haven't offered to give me your racial PN that's no great loss :). Honestly it's something of a poisoned chalice as when you have that ability people are more likely to focus on you as a threat as you are more likely to win!

If you want me to pay me to not invade Rex I'm open to offers... average price of a VP is 8 resources, so I'd accept something around the 5 TG equivalent mark.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 03:48 PM

View Posttwelve, on 30 July 2019 - 01:45 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.

Probably going to move on Rex to stop khell scoring imperial.

Twelve are we going to have a problem if I make a move on your vacated planets? I'd like to score multiple ships next to rex.

Ships no infantry yes. Unless forfeiting Zohbat will lower the cost of your racial. My ceasefire is off the table unless I get yours in return.


You don't have any infantry on Zohbat, and you've exhausted it. I'm not going to just sit and let you take all Gnaw's planets and leave them undefended, you already have a resource advantage over the rest of the board and look set to be increasing it, I'd be a fool to let you continue doing that, especially as Khell isn't putting any pressure on you.

I'd be willing to listen to a deal for my racial without your ceasefire in return if you use it straight away.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 04:23 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 03:48 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 July 2019 - 01:45 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.

Probably going to move on Rex to stop khell scoring imperial.

Twelve are we going to have a problem if I make a move on your vacated planets? I'd like to score multiple ships next to rex.

Ships no infantry yes. Unless forfeiting Zohbat will lower the cost of your racial. My ceasefire is off the table unless I get yours in return.


You don't have any infantry on Zohbat, and you've exhausted it. I'm not going to just sit and let you take all Gnaw's planets and leave them undefended, you already have a resource advantage over the rest of the board and look set to be increasing it, I'd be a fool to let you continue doing that, especially as Khell isn't putting any pressure on you.

I'd be willing to listen to a deal for my racial without your ceasefire in return if you use it straight away.


I've not gotten to use either Zohbat nor Starpoint for their resources as they both have been targeted by action cards this game before I could use them. So no I haven't had a resource advantage this game. But as you say I have no troops to defend it so do what you will. Just know I will be wanting to score the intimidate council objective most likely next round if I'm successful in the 3 tech specialties objective and I'll be coming back into that system. Gnaw can have his planets back when I'm done with them.

As far as your racial i have no need of it right away. I was wanting to bank it for later and with the ridiculous price you are asking for it I'm likely to pass.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:09 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 30 July 2019 - 12:31 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.

Probably going to move on Rex to stop khell scoring imperial.

Twelve are we going to have a problem if I make a move on your vacated planets? I'd like to score multiple ships next to rex.


Ah but if you try and invade this turn I will never let you have my racial PN.


Well since you haven't offered to give me your racial PN that's no great loss :). Honestly it's something of a poisoned chalice as when you have that ability people are more likely to focus on you as a threat as you are more likely to win!

If you want me to pay me to not invade Rex I'm open to offers... average price of a VP is 8 resources, so I'd accept something around the 5 TG equivalent mark.


Come the end of the game you might regret spurning the offer of being able to go first, but your choice!

5TG not to invade...hmm, seems a bit steep considering that there is a chance your invasion could fail - though I suppose you might have some AC up your sleeve.

The offer of Wellon for free also goes out the window if you invade MR this turn...
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:10 PM

View PostD, on 29 July 2019 - 09:48 PM, said:

@Khell - Wellon is now clear of Sol forces, as promised. That said, I'd of course like to exhaust the planet before you retake control (or cede it to IH, if you're so-inclined). I'm imagining you'll play IMPERIAL as your next turn anyways so the timing will probably work out fine, but let me know if that's not the case.


Thanks, and yep I won’t retake before you exhaust.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:26 PM

View Posttwelve, on 30 July 2019 - 04:23 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 03:48 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 30 July 2019 - 01:45 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.

Probably going to move on Rex to stop khell scoring imperial.

Twelve are we going to have a problem if I make a move on your vacated planets? I'd like to score multiple ships next to rex.

Ships no infantry yes. Unless forfeiting Zohbat will lower the cost of your racial. My ceasefire is off the table unless I get yours in return.


You don't have any infantry on Zohbat, and you've exhausted it. I'm not going to just sit and let you take all Gnaw's planets and leave them undefended, you already have a resource advantage over the rest of the board and look set to be increasing it, I'd be a fool to let you continue doing that, especially as Khell isn't putting any pressure on you.

I'd be willing to listen to a deal for my racial without your ceasefire in return if you use it straight away.


I've not gotten to use either Zohbat nor Starpoint for their resources as they both have been targeted by action cards this game before I could use them. So no I haven't had a resource advantage this game. But as you say I have no troops to defend it so do what you will. Just know I will be wanting to score the intimidate council objective most likely next round if I'm successful in the 3 tech specialties objective and I'll be coming back into that system. Gnaw can have his planets back when I'm done with them.

As far as your racial i have no need of it right away. I was wanting to bank it for later and with the ridiculous price you are asking for it I'm likely to pass.


Fair enough i don't want it for long.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:30 PM

Tell you what, I’ll promise you 5TG if you don’t invade this turn AND play Tech instead.

Not sure how I’m going to get you that 5TG mind...
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:32 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 30 July 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 30 July 2019 - 12:31 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.

Probably going to move on Rex to stop khell scoring imperial.

Twelve are we going to have a problem if I make a move on your vacated planets? I'd like to score multiple ships next to rex.


Ah but if you try and invade this turn I will never let you have my racial PN.


Well since you haven't offered to give me your racial PN that's no great loss :headbang:. Honestly it's something of a poisoned chalice as when you have that ability people are more likely to focus on you as a threat as you are more likely to win!

If you want me to pay me to not invade Rex I'm open to offers... average price of a VP is 8 resources, so I'd accept something around the 5 TG equivalent mark.


Come the end of the game you might regret spurning the offer of being able to go first, but your choice!

5TG not to invade...hmm, seems a bit steep considering that there is a chance your invasion could fail - though I suppose you might have some AC up your sleeve.

The offer of Wellon for free also goes out the window if you invade MR this turn...


I can't take wellon anymore :) morgoth is in the way.

A guaranteed vp is cheap at 5tg! You valued your racial at 2 tg before, so that and a tg would be the minimum I'd accept, no worries if not.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:33 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 30 July 2019 - 05:30 PM, said:

Tell you what, I’ll promise you 5TG if you don’t invade this turn AND play Tech instead.

Not sure how I’m going to get you that 5TG mind...


You mean let you research the tech that would cost me a CT to invade, hard pass :)
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:48 PM

FYI - I'm just waiting on some clarifications from Gnaw before I can resolve Twelve's most recent action.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 06:36 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 05:32 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 30 July 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 30 July 2019 - 12:31 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

Waiting for a map update before I move. Want to see what the state of the board is after all these combats.

Probably going to move on Rex to stop khell scoring imperial.

Twelve are we going to have a problem if I make a move on your vacated planets? I'd like to score multiple ships next to rex.


Ah but if you try and invade this turn I will never let you have my racial PN.


Well since you haven't offered to give me your racial PN that's no great loss :headbang:. Honestly it's something of a poisoned chalice as when you have that ability people are more likely to focus on you as a threat as you are more likely to win!

If you want me to pay me to not invade Rex I'm open to offers... average price of a VP is 8 resources, so I'd accept something around the 5 TG equivalent mark.


Come the end of the game you might regret spurning the offer of being able to go first, but your choice!

5TG not to invade...hmm, seems a bit steep considering that there is a chance your invasion could fail - though I suppose you might have some AC up your sleeve.

The offer of Wellon for free also goes out the window if you invade MR this turn...


I can't take wellon anymore :) morgoth is in the way.

A guaranteed vp is cheap at 5tg! You valued your racial at 2 tg before, so that and a tg would be the minimum I'd accept, no worries if not.


No, I valued it in a specific scenario, not in every trade :p
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 06:37 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 30 July 2019 - 05:33 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 30 July 2019 - 05:30 PM, said:

Tell you what, I’ll promise you 5TG if you don’t invade this turn AND play Tech instead.

Not sure how I’m going to get you that 5TG mind...


You mean let you research the tech that would cost me a CT to invade, hard pass :)


Not if I no longer had ships in the space.
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Posted 30 July 2019 - 07:45 PM

Alright, the battle between Twelve and Gnaw is resolved. Map update will happen when I get home tonight!
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 12:27 AM

I lost a fighter in the fight yet you still have me at 8
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 09:12 AM

IH, I think it’s bombard x3, not 4 - let’s not get carried away :)
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 09:41 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 31 July 2019 - 09:12 AM, said:

IH, I think it’s bombard x3, not 4 - let’s not get carried away :)


Plus Plasma scoring makes it 4 :headbang:

This things ridiculous!
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Posted 31 July 2019 - 09:47 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 31 July 2019 - 09:41 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 31 July 2019 - 09:12 AM, said:

IH, I think it’s bombard x3, not 4 - let’s not get carried away :headbang:


Plus Plasma scoring makes it 4 :p

This things ridiculous!


I always forget Plasma Scoring is not just for PDS!

You’re about to regret not waiting a single turn :)
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