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Posted 11 July 2019 - 02:29 AM

I've removed Morgoth's post as it wasn't his turn yet. I've got it saved in his PM for when it comes back around to him.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 03:42 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 12:01 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 10 July 2019 - 10:09 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 10 July 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

So IH, what say you?


Sorry busy day i think yes? Just trying to sort through the thread for your latest offer, delayed diplomacy until i want (basically after technology, which is probably pretty soon), 1tg and political PN right? I'm not really bothered when you refresh. For me to make you speaker and you leave me the strategy of my choice?


Interesting, because I’m waiting for diplomacy to be played before I play technology :headbang:


Really? Playing it before Diplo (ie right now) would really screw over Morgoth, which is always entertaining

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 07:04 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 12:01 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 10 July 2019 - 10:09 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 10 July 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

So IH, what say you?


Sorry busy day i think yes? Just trying to sort through the thread for your latest offer, delayed diplomacy until i want (basically after technology, which is probably pretty soon), 1tg and political PN right? I'm not really bothered when you refresh. For me to make you speaker and you leave me the strategy of my choice?


Interesting, because I’m waiting for diplomacy to be played before I play technology :headbang:


I figured, you want to use the green tech. My mind could be changed, but i figure Morgoth is capable of outstalling you. The disadvantage of always being first.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 08:26 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 11 July 2019 - 07:04 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 12:01 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 10 July 2019 - 10:09 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 10 July 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

So IH, what say you?


Sorry busy day i think yes? Just trying to sort through the thread for your latest offer, delayed diplomacy until i want (basically after technology, which is probably pretty soon), 1tg and political PN right? I'm not really bothered when you refresh. For me to make you speaker and you leave me the strategy of my choice?


Interesting, because I’m waiting for diplomacy to be played before I play technology :headbang:


I figured, you want to use the green tech. My mind could be changed, but i figure Morgoth is capable of outstalling you. The disadvantage of always being first.


I don’t mind either way, if I have to play tech before Diplomacy then there’s always other useful things to research. Guess we’ll see what happens :headbang:
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 10:59 AM

Sorry guys, I was a little too worried I’d hold up the game!
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:44 AM

View Posttwelve, on 11 July 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 12:03 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 10 July 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:

Khell did you realize that you have to put a command token on the system you retreat to? Just pointing out this in case you were planning on building in this system.


Yep, I do realise. But the ships had nowhere else to go really and I didn’t want to continue leaving Bereg/Lirta undefended.

So are we exchanging SftTs now (and giving me back Political Secrets)?

The deal was for new Albion back. I definitely will want it back ASAP especially with the tech specialties objective to score. I'm assuming you will be done with it next round?


That depends on whether I get to use it for research this round or not. I’ve more than adequately compensated you and been accommodating to you to keep it for multiple rounds, and the fact that a tech objective came up after our deal doesn’t change it.

If I use it this round, then I’m happy to let go of NA after researching next round. If I don’t get to use it, then I’m happy to let it go after researching next round and the round after.

The maths would change if I got tech again, but that seems unlikely considering where the speaker token is going.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 01:30 PM

Morgoth - please review your TGs. I had you at 0TGs at the end of last round, then 1TG when you picked Diplomacy, and then 4TG when you used uprising. But in your posts, you went from 1TG in Strategy Phase to 3TG in your first action. I'm assuming it's an error, as I can't figure out how else you might have received those TGs, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.

I've put you at 4TG in your most recent action as that is where I think you should be.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 01:55 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 11:44 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 11 July 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 12:03 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 10 July 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:

Khell did you realize that you have to put a command token on the system you retreat to? Just pointing out this in case you were planning on building in this system.


Yep, I do realise. But the ships had nowhere else to go really and I didn’t want to continue leaving Bereg/Lirta undefended.

So are we exchanging SftTs now (and giving me back Political Secrets)?

The deal was for new Albion back. I definitely will want it back ASAP especially with the tech specialties objective to score. I'm assuming you will be done with it next round?


That depends on whether I get to use it for research this round or not. I’ve more than adequately compensated you and been accommodating to you to keep it for multiple rounds, and the fact that a tech objective came up after our deal doesn’t change it.

If I use it this round, then I’m happy to let go of NA after researching next round. If I don’t get to use it, then I’m happy to let it go after researching next round and the round after.

The maths would change if I got tech again, but that seems unlikely considering where the speaker token is going.

I can incentivize Morgoth to use it as his next action because if he doesn't I'm attacking that nice and juicy system next to Rex for messing up my ability to research this round.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 02:13 PM

View Posttwelve, on 11 July 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 11:44 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 11 July 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 12:03 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 10 July 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:

Khell did you realize that you have to put a command token on the system you retreat to? Just pointing out this in case you were planning on building in this system.


Yep, I do realise. But the ships had nowhere else to go really and I didn’t want to continue leaving Bereg/Lirta undefended.

So are we exchanging SftTs now (and giving me back Political Secrets)?

The deal was for new Albion back. I definitely will want it back ASAP especially with the tech specialties objective to score. I'm assuming you will be done with it next round?


That depends on whether I get to use it for research this round or not. I’ve more than adequately compensated you and been accommodating to you to keep it for multiple rounds, and the fact that a tech objective came up after our deal doesn’t change it.

If I use it this round, then I’m happy to let go of NA after researching next round. If I don’t get to use it, then I’m happy to let it go after researching next round and the round after.

The maths would change if I got tech again, but that seems unlikely considering where the speaker token is going.

I can incentivize Morgoth to use it as his next action because if he doesn't I'm attacking that nice and juicy system next to Rex for messing up my ability to research this round.


Sounds good to me!
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 02:18 PM

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Do it.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 02:49 PM

View Posttwelve, on 11 July 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 11:44 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 11 July 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 12:03 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 10 July 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:

Khell did you realize that you have to put a command token on the system you retreat to? Just pointing out this in case you were planning on building in this system.


Yep, I do realise. But the ships had nowhere else to go really and I didn't want to continue leaving Bereg/Lirta undefended.

So are we exchanging SftTs now (and giving me back Political Secrets)?

The deal was for new Albion back. I definitely will want it back ASAP especially with the tech specialties objective to score. I'm assuming you will be done with it next round?


That depends on whether I get to use it for research this round or not. I've more than adequately compensated you and been accommodating to you to keep it for multiple rounds, and the fact that a tech objective came up after our deal doesn't change it.

If I use it this round, then I'm happy to let go of NA after researching next round. If I don't get to use it, then I'm happy to let it go after researching next round and the round after.

The maths would change if I got tech again, but that seems unlikely considering where the speaker token is going.

I can incentivize Morgoth to use it as his next action because if he doesn't I'm attacking that nice and juicy system next to Rex for messing up my ability to research this round.


Doesn't the custodian tile need to be removed for you to pass through Rex airspace?
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 02:51 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 11 July 2019 - 02:49 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 11 July 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 11:44 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 11 July 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2019 - 12:03 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 10 July 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:

Khell did you realize that you have to put a command token on the system you retreat to? Just pointing out this in case you were planning on building in this system.


Yep, I do realise. But the ships had nowhere else to go really and I didn't want to continue leaving Bereg/Lirta undefended.

So are we exchanging SftTs now (and giving me back Political Secrets)?

The deal was for new Albion back. I definitely will want it back ASAP especially with the tech specialties objective to score. I'm assuming you will be done with it next round?


That depends on whether I get to use it for research this round or not. I've more than adequately compensated you and been accommodating to you to keep it for multiple rounds, and the fact that a tech objective came up after our deal doesn't change it.

If I use it this round, then I'm happy to let go of NA after researching next round. If I don't get to use it, then I'm happy to let it go after researching next round and the round after.

The maths would change if I got tech again, but that seems unlikely considering where the speaker token is going.

I can incentivize Morgoth to use it as his next action because if he doesn't I'm attacking that nice and juicy system next to Rex for messing up my ability to research this round.


Doesn't the custodian tile need to be removed for you to pass through Rex airspace?


Nope. The Custodians and their ginormous planetary shield only protect the planet itself, not the space around it.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 02:51 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 11 July 2019 - 02:49 PM, said:

Doesn't the custodian tile need to be removed for you to pass through Rex airspace?


I looked it up and no, the Custodians are meant to be on the planet, so you can fly through Rex airspace, you just can't invade Rex without paying to remove the Custodians tile.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 03:08 PM

Well that is certainly news to me!
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 03:14 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 11 July 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

Well that is certainly news to me!


It's funny, I always assumed the opposite of you, but it has never really come up before! Now we know!
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 03:14 PM

Oh, and it's your turn, btw! :p
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 03:18 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 11 July 2019 - 01:30 PM, said:

Morgoth - please review your TGs. I had you at 0TGs at the end of last round, then 1TG when you picked Diplomacy, and then 4TG when you used uprising. But in your posts, you went from 1TG in Strategy Phase to 3TG in your first action. I'm assuming it's an error, as I can't figure out how else you might have received those TGs, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.

I've put you at 4TG in your most recent action as that is where I think you should be.


I traded ihs commodities for my trade pn, got one tg for diplomacy, and 3 for the AC.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 03:19 PM

@Gnaw, I have the spy action card. Logically you will have the best action cards, and so I should use it on you.

In the interests of neighbourliness I'm giving you a heads up if you want to make a suggestion for alternatives, and since we have this trade deal ongoing, I'm likely using it soon

@Morgoth is our deal still on with all these threats from twelve? I don't want to have a misunderstanding where I make you speaker and then back out on the diplomacy part of the deal
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 03:20 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 11 July 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 11 July 2019 - 01:30 PM, said:

Morgoth - please review your TGs. I had you at 0TGs at the end of last round, then 1TG when you picked Diplomacy, and then 4TG when you used uprising. But in your posts, you went from 1TG in Strategy Phase to 3TG in your first action. I'm assuming it's an error, as I can't figure out how else you might have received those TGs, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.

I've put you at 4TG in your most recent action as that is where I think you should be.


I traded ihs commodities for my trade pn, got one tg for diplomacy, and 3 for the AC.


I'm confused, how did you get a tg for dipomacy? you should be on 5 right, 2 from me, 2 from the AC
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 03:22 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 11 July 2019 - 03:20 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 11 July 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 11 July 2019 - 01:30 PM, said:

Morgoth - please review your TGs. I had you at 0TGs at the end of last round, then 1TG when you picked Diplomacy, and then 4TG when you used uprising. But in your posts, you went from 1TG in Strategy Phase to 3TG in your first action. I'm assuming it's an error, as I can't figure out how else you might have received those TGs, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.

I've put you at 4TG in your most recent action as that is where I think you should be.


I traded ihs commodities for my trade pn, got one tg for diplomacy, and 3 for the AC.


I'm confused, how did you get a tg for dipomacy? you should be on 5 right, 2 from me, 2 from the AC


If a Strategy Card isn't picked, a trade good is placed on it. When it is picked in a later round, the player picking it gets the trade goods.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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