[Tapper]

Itwæs Nom, on 03 July 2019 - 08:29 PM, said:

twelve, on 28 June 2019 - 02:44 PM, said:

Nom my ceasefire for your research agreement sound good to you?

Good enough

Tapper, on 29 June 2019 - 02:34 PM, said:

D, on 29 June 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

Tapper, on 29 June 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

Tatts, I'd be up for an agreement on borders, sealed with PNs or SFtTs.

You mean Nom. They're HW picks were originally swapped in the first post.

Okay.
Well, for the better, I guess.

What would be your idea about Mehar Xull then?

I will likely send my cruiser there on my first action, to be able to trade commodities with you (assuming you take Abyss/Fria round 1).

Long term I would like to use its tech bonus (to skip Magen and get Duranium), but I think it is neither yours nor mine by default.

That being said, you already have 6 influence and a red tech in Arinaam Meer (plus being able to skip one requirement), so some of MX's features are better for me than for you. I'd suggest the following:

I occupy it in round 2 or 3, and after I settle it, I give you either my Trade Agreement, or my Racial PN, but in case of my Racial, then I will want in exchange your Racial PN as well.
If you want more guarantees, I am open to an exchange of other PNs (SFtT or Ceasefire), as you want, too.

[Itwæs Nom]

Yeah I think mx is definitely more valuable to you than it is to me so I don't mind letting you have it for a price

If the part of the deal is that, after you've used the prerequisite, if I need the planet for some reason or other, you'll cooperate and let me temporarily take it, then the price range you offered seems fairish to me. Although, other uses aside, MX offers you a CT each round for the remainder of the game so 3TGs are probably just not enough for me. And I value my PN too highly to consider a racial pn exchange an adequate payment. What about the pn exchange plus your trade pn?

If twelve refuses my offer I'd be in for a sftt exchange too

I'll do my best to come to Abyz/F so we can exchange commodities but can't guarantee it I think

This post has been edited by Itwæs Nom: 04 July 2019 - 11:25 AM

[twelve]

Itwæs Nom, on 04 July 2019 - 07:03 AM, said:

twelve, on 03 July 2019 - 09:56 PM, said:

twelve, on 03 July 2019 - 08:47 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 03 July 2019 - 08:29 PM, said:

twelve, on 28 June 2019 - 02:44 PM, said:

Nom my ceasefire for your research agreement sound good to you?

Good enough

Since I grabbed warfare (formerly known as Logistics) I'm not likely to get a ship in Tar'Mann this first round so we can neighbor up and trade. Do you see a way to place a ship there this round so we can become neighbors? If not I'll rethink what I was going to do this round. I would really like to get hyper metabolism.

Nom, after reading up on the Muaat star forge ability I will be using it to create a destroyer and then on my second turn move it to Tar'mann. So as long as you have at least a ship in the Meer system by turn 2 we can exchange pns. Does this sound acceptable? And when you use trade would you like to exchange commodities as well?

Yes def going there, in for the comm exchange too

Also I'd prefer a sftt exchange instead of the pns if you were willing to, otherwise I'll probably exchange it with Tappdancer

I'm a bit confused on what you are saying in this post. Are you saying to get your research agreement we exchange sftt or you will sell your racial to Tapper?

[Blend]

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

Edit; @Twelve
With Lodor you would have 16 resources and with Rarron system I would have 20 and D'rek would have 22.

As war between us would cost us the game and hand it elsewhere I'm proposing a good pact between us, not letting the Arborec get out of control. Peace of mind between us, SFTT to help us along the way, swapping commodities. I'll need that system to keep up with D'rek, she will already have more planets and resources than me.

If I wanted to go that way I could have War Sun technology in round 2 so I could keep up with you militarily wise if I needed to but would rather not and focus on scoring objectives.

What do you think?

First sftt can only be given out to one player and I think Nom wants it for his research agreement and as I've said Hyper Metabolism is my top priority he would get first Crack at it.
Second, per your own post, your distribution of planets would put me at the fewest combined value so your argument supports me taking that system. But as I said before I'm willing to share the space. We can exchange ceasefires and you can then focus on keeping D'rek in check. And if you absolutely refuse to share then pay me off. I'd rather not fight over it but I'm not going to let you walk over me for it either.

[twelve]

Blend, on 04 July 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

Yeah you would think Gnaw would put the public objectives in first before doing all the clean up work so the game can really get going.

[Galactic Council]

twelve, on 04 July 2019 - 02:30 PM, said:

Blend, on 04 July 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

Yeah you would think Gnaw would put the public objectives in first before doing all the clean up work so the game can really get going.

Yeah, it's too bad, if the POs were up I could just put a placeholder for his Custodians post then get this game going, but unfortunately we're gonna have to wait!

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 04 July 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

Edit; @Twelve
With Lodor you would have 16 resources and with Rarron system I would have 20 and D'rek would have 22.

As war between us would cost us the game and hand it elsewhere I'm proposing a good pact between us, not letting the Arborec get out of control. Peace of mind between us, SFTT to help us along the way, swapping commodities. I'll need that system to keep up with D'rek, she will already have more planets and resources than me.

If I wanted to go that way I could have War Sun technology in round 2 so I could keep up with you militarily wise if I needed to but would rather not and focus on scoring objectives.

What do you think?

First sftt can only be given out to one player and I think Nom wants it for his research agreement and as I've said Hyper Metabolism is my top priority he would get first Crack at it.
Second, per your own post, your distribution of planets would put me at the fewest combined value so your argument supports me taking that system. But as I said before I'm willing to share the space. We can exchange ceasefires and you can then focus on keeping D'rek in check. And if you absolutely refuse to share then pay me off. I'd rather not fight over it but I'm not going to let you walk over me for it either.

I understand that. What I propose is that when we border we exchange SFTT. That system (Rarron) is mine and I'll pay you round 2 - > My racial PN once I have exhausted the planet for the first time. Unless it is paramount to stopping you winning the game I leave Lodor alone completely. Something along these lines. Round 3 my trade PN as a further boon.

[Tattersail_]

Also I read Nom as exchanging SFTT with Tapper if not you.

[Itwæs Nom]

Yeah we exchange sftt and my racial is yours for your ceasefire

[twelve]

Itwæs Nom, on 04 July 2019 - 02:51 PM, said:

Yeah we exchange sftt and my racial is yours for your ceasefire

Go ahead and Trade with Tapper. I need to lock Tatts down with mine as he is a less than trustworthy neighbor.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 04 July 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 04 July 2019 - 02:51 PM, said:

Yeah we exchange sftt and my racial is yours for your ceasefire

Go ahead and Trade with Tapper. I need to lock Tatts down with mine as he is a less than trustworthy neighbor.

Hey! We have never negotiated like this before. Normally you skip all this talk and do your own thing, at least here we are having a dialogue. You'll see a different side to me this game.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 02:37 PM, said:

twelve, on 04 July 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

Edit; @Twelve
With Lodor you would have 16 resources and with Rarron system I would have 20 and D'rek would have 22.

As war between us would cost us the game and hand it elsewhere I'm proposing a good pact between us, not letting the Arborec get out of control. Peace of mind between us, SFTT to help us along the way, swapping commodities. I'll need that system to keep up with D'rek, she will already have more planets and resources than me.

If I wanted to go that way I could have War Sun technology in round 2 so I could keep up with you militarily wise if I needed to but would rather not and focus on scoring objectives.

What do you think?

First sftt can only be given out to one player and I think Nom wants it for his research agreement and as I've said Hyper Metabolism is my top priority he would get first Crack at it.
Second, per your own post, your distribution of planets would put me at the fewest combined value so your argument supports me taking that system. But as I said before I'm willing to share the space. We can exchange ceasefires and you can then focus on keeping D'rek in check. And if you absolutely refuse to share then pay me off. I'd rather not fight over it but I'm not going to let you walk over me for it either.

I understand that. What I propose is that when we border we exchange SFTT. That system (Rarron) is mine and I'll pay you round 2 - > My racial PN once I have exhausted the planet for the first time. Unless it is paramount to stopping you winning the game I leave Lodor alone completely. Something along these lines. Round 3 my trade PN as a further boon.

Tatts, the influence is just too important to me. I just can't give it up. I'm taking that system round one. I'm willing to exchange sftt with you after I take the system so we can have peace and I'll accept your trade agreement to give you the 1/2 planet and share the system but I'm claiming Rarron for myself.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 03:11 PM, said:

twelve, on 04 July 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 04 July 2019 - 02:51 PM, said:

Yeah we exchange sftt and my racial is yours for your ceasefire

Go ahead and Trade with Tapper. I need to lock Tatts down with mine as he is a less than trustworthy neighbor.

Hey! We have never negotiated like this before. Normally you skip all this talk and do your own thing, at least here we are having a dialogue. You'll see a different side to me this game.

You'll have to forgive me if I have a hard time trusting you. Your record on keeping deals with me isn't the best.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 04 July 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 02:37 PM, said:

twelve, on 04 July 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 July 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

Edit; @Twelve
With Lodor you would have 16 resources and with Rarron system I would have 20 and D'rek would have 22.

As war between us would cost us the game and hand it elsewhere I'm proposing a good pact between us, not letting the Arborec get out of control. Peace of mind between us, SFTT to help us along the way, swapping commodities. I'll need that system to keep up with D'rek, she will already have more planets and resources than me.

If I wanted to go that way I could have War Sun technology in round 2 so I could keep up with you militarily wise if I needed to but would rather not and focus on scoring objectives.

What do you think?

First sftt can only be given out to one player and I think Nom wants it for his research agreement and as I've said Hyper Metabolism is my top priority he would get first Crack at it.
Second, per your own post, your distribution of planets would put me at the fewest combined value so your argument supports me taking that system. But as I said before I'm willing to share the space. We can exchange ceasefires and you can then focus on keeping D'rek in check. And if you absolutely refuse to share then pay me off. I'd rather not fight over it but I'm not going to let you walk over me for it either.

I understand that. What I propose is that when we border we exchange SFTT. That system (Rarron) is mine and I'll pay you round 2 - > My racial PN once I have exhausted the planet for the first time. Unless it is paramount to stopping you winning the game I leave Lodor alone completely. Something along these lines. Round 3 my trade PN as a further boon.

Tatts, the influence is just too important to me. I just can't give it up. I'm taking that system round one. I'm willing to exchange sftt with you after I take the system so we can have peace and I'll accept your trade agreement to give you the 1/2 planet and share the system but I'm claiming Rarron for myself.

My racial PN gives you a token (whilst removing one from me), and the trade PN a further 2 TG's. So it's not like you'll be put out by the deal. You get to focus on securing the centre whilst I protect my little sphere. No way you can work with me on this one?

[Tapper]

Itwæs Nom, on 04 July 2019 - 11:24 AM, said:

Yeah I think mx is definitely more valuable to you than it is to me so I don't mind letting you have it for a price

If the part of the deal is that, after you've used the prerequisite, if I need the planet for some reason or other, you'll cooperate and let me temporarily take it, then the price range you offered seems fairish to me. Although, other uses aside, MX offers you a CT each round for the remainder of the game so 3TGs are probably just not enough for me. And I value my PN too highly to consider a racial pn exchange an adequate payment. What about the pn exchange plus your trade pn?

If twelve refuses my offer I'd be in for a sftt exchange too

I'll do my best to come to Abyz/F so we can exchange commodities but can't guarantee it I think

If we discuss the use of my Racial PN before you cash it in, so that you select a Strategy that is at least some use to me, then sure; my Trade Agreement + Racial for your Racial when I settle on MX.

[D'rek]

And here I just wanna sit in my corner behind the void of empty hexes and make flowers

[Blend]

D, on 04 July 2019 - 04:23 PM, said:

And here I just wanna sit in my corner behind the void of empty hexes and make flowers

Once I get a destroyer on the wormhole, and we're neighbours, and trade has been refreshed, you wanna swap?

[D'rek]

Sure, but I imagine that'll be around round 2 or 3?

[D'rek]

Action phase order listed is wrong. Should be

D'rek >> Tatts >> Tapper >> Nom >> Twelve >> Blend