[Morgoth]

twelve, on 02 April 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

Morgoth, If you give me 3 trade goods on my turn and then agree to attack Starpoint and New Abilon as your first action and agree to use the skilled retreat card when i do attack Rex I'll hold off my attack of Rex until you have used it for the CT and VP.

I can make war on IH, and I can offer you two TGs payable at the point of transfer. I will need to hold MR for two turns. In addition I promise to leave MR in your hands until the end of the game.

The alternative is that you and I fight it out over MR and and IH climbs to victory. I think it's a fair deal.

[Imperial Historian]

I mean you would be a fool not to attack me but Gnaw would be equally foolish in paying you to do what you need to do to win anyway

My gamble looks increasingly problematic, I've never had a clear lead before, its awful!

[Morgoth]

Though I need to hear from Gnaw too.

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 02 April 2019 - 06:09 PM, said:

Damn, with me not taking out Bereg/Lirta he was able to rebuild his flagship immediately

I might as well throw this out there - with Morgoth on MR, the only players who are really positionally able to strike at IH this round are myself or Tapper (let me know if you want me to move the destroyer out of the alpha WH) (aside from Mallice). Hence, if you want to try and hold IH back, you may want to consider feeding me TG/ACs, as I've already blown a bunch with the Bereg/Lirta strike and probably can't build up a second large-enough force by myself. Any contributions *will* be put towards attacking him, ASAP.

And thank you for taking out my flagship so i can reposition it in my home world, though i wish you had been slightly less efficient in removing the rest of my fleet!

[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth, on 02 April 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

twelve, on 02 April 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

Morgoth, If you give me 3 trade goods on my turn and then agree to attack Starpoint and New Abilon as your first action and agree to use the skilled retreat card when i do attack Rex I'll hold off my attack of Rex until you have used it for the CT and VP.

I can make war on IH, and I can offer you two TGs payable at the point of transfer. I will need to hold MR for two turns. In addition I promise to leave MR in your hands until the end of the game.

The alternative is that you and I fight it out over MR and and IH climbs to victory. I think it's a fair deal.

Translation i want to take some additional planets before i play imperial so i can score the 2 vp objective and be on the sane number of points as IH but with more secret objectives to score.

[Morgoth]

Imperial Historian, on 02 April 2019 - 09:00 PM, said:

I mean you would be a fool not to attack me but Gnaw would be equally foolish in paying you to do what you need to do to win anyway

My gamble looks increasingly problematic, I've never had a clear lead before, its awful!

Yeah, It never pays to be ahead. Unless you’re the arborec with more soldiers than stars in the sky.

[twelve]

Morgoth, on 02 April 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

twelve, on 02 April 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

Morgoth, If you give me 3 trade goods on my turn and then agree to attack Starpoint and New Abilon as your first action and agree to use the skilled retreat card when i do attack Rex I'll hold off my attack of Rex until you have used it for the CT and VP.

I can make war on IH, and I can offer you two TGs payable at the point of transfer. I will need to hold MR for two turns. In addition I promise to leave MR in your hands until the end of the game.

The alternative is that you and I fight it out over MR and and IH climbs to victory. I think it's a fair deal.

I can stall for a couple of turns....

Okay deal as long as the tgs are transferred on my next turn I won't attack Rex until my third turn or later.

Blend yes I'm using your Racial as my first action.

[twelve]

D'rek, if I activate one of your systems to gain you trade goods is it possible to get some of those TGs as payment for doing it?

[twelve]

Wait? Do I still border IH?

[twelve]

Crap. Morgoth I agreed to the 2 TGS as I thought D'rek took back the planets as well as destroying IH's ships. I wanted a net of 2 TGS but if I only net 1 I'm going to insist on 1 more TGS unless someone can remove my border with IH before we exchange TGs.

[Imperial Historian]

The passage of the mentax collectors is swift and silent.

Damn I was looking forward to all those extra TG.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 02 April 2019 - 09:17 PM, said:

D'rek, if I activate one of your systems to gain you trade goods is it possible to get some of those TGs as payment for doing it?

Possibly. Would require specifics.

[twelve]

D, on 02 April 2019 - 10:22 PM, said:

twelve, on 02 April 2019 - 09:17 PM, said:

D'rek, if I activate one of your systems to gain you trade goods is it possible to get some of those TGs as payment for doing it?

Possibly. Would require specifics.

It should be no surprise I'm trying to score the tg objective. With my deal with Morgoth and IH giving me a free refresh I'm hoping to be sitting at 7 preferably 8 trade goods. If by activating one of your systems and I can gain enough trade goods to end at 10 I'd be willing to give you my trade agreement pn for however many TGs I need. If need be I might do it twice and you keep however extra I don't need to score the objective.

I'm also seeing a way for you to not border IH if Morgoth is willing to send over the skilled retreat card to you I can come in with my carrier and remove the berg system from IH to get maximum benefit for activating a system that contains your ships. If that is something you are willing to do that is. Knocking IH down to just his home system by the end of the round should be on everyone's radar.

[Gnaw]

Ah, the joys of being the points leader.

[Imperial Historian]

I know everyone is focusing on me because I'm in the lead, but the most points I could feasibly score this turn is 2 (no way am I getting 11 planets), IF I draw a SO that I can achieve which is unlikely.

If morgoth takes 3 planets (eg starpoint, new albion and say mansa 3) he can feasibly score:
3 tech planets 1VP
11 planets 2VP
Rex point 1 VP
Plus 2 SO.

Taking him to 12

So if morgoth has 1 action secret objective he could win this turn.

He also has a much bigger, stronger fleet than I do.

By all means try and stop me winning, but please don't forget that morgoth is the only one who can score enough points to win this round. Knocking me down to a few planets sure, but knock morgoth down as well! If morgoth is allowed to get 11 planets I know who my money is on winning and it isn't me!

[D'rek]

twelve, on 02 April 2019 - 10:40 PM, said:

D, on 02 April 2019 - 10:22 PM, said:

twelve, on 02 April 2019 - 09:17 PM, said:

D'rek, if I activate one of your systems to gain you trade goods is it possible to get some of those TGs as payment for doing it?

Possibly. Would require specifics.

It should be no surprise I'm trying to score the tg objective. With my deal with Morgoth and IH giving me a free refresh I'm hoping to be sitting at 7 preferably 8 trade goods. If by activating one of your systems and I can gain enough trade goods to end at 10 I'd be willing to give you my trade agreement pn for however many TGs I need. If need be I might do it twice and you keep however extra I don't need to score the objective.

I'm also seeing a way for you to not border IH if Morgoth is willing to send over the skilled retreat card to you I can come in with my carrier and remove the berg system from IH to get maximum benefit for activating a system that contains your ships. If that is something you are willing to do that is. Knocking IH down to just his home system by the end of the round should be on everyone's radar.

There's no way I'm going to vacate the Bereg system, I just got it back!

[Tattersail_]

IH would you give me a free refresh and you can have my racial again, no pillaging if able on my commodities transaction.

[Morgoth]

twelve, on 02 April 2019 - 09:30 PM, said:

Crap. Morgoth I agreed to the 2 TGS as I thought D'rek took back the planets as well as destroying IH's ships. I wanted a net of 2 TGS but if I only net 1 I'm going to insist on 1 more TGS unless someone can remove my border with IH before we exchange TGs.

Alright, I'll make sure you get your trade goods, but I am not paying you until I have gotten my two turns out of MR. Consider it insurance on my part. We're in the end game and I am wary of treachery.

[Morgoth]

Gnaw, so what is it. Are you purposefully ignoring me at this point?

[Tapper]

IH, I am interested in your Racial, now that you have it back. What is your price?