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Twilight Imperium (Game 3) - Chat Thread

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:32 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 19 March 2019 - 06:26 PM, said:

Gnaw, I've just noticed you have Daxcive Animators. Do you want to place another infantry on Muaat?


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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:35 PM

View PostD, on 19 March 2019 - 06:27 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 19 March 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 05:50 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 19 March 2019 - 05:45 PM, said:

The Plan allows for no other sustenance than oats soaked in the tears of unbelievers. I have gorged myself on Solarion salt for some time, but recently my diet has been all Muaat.


I am pretty confident I will be able to ward off whatever you choose to throw at me if you choose to do so. But if it is any consolation, I would be clearing out Gnaw's forces on Gwynan then moving on. I have no designs on MR, particularly now that I have to get my HW back.


Have no fear on that front. You are far away and provide no objectives. I am happy to let your squable play itself out without interference from the Barony.


Where have I seen this before... :p


Not from me. I am but a peacefull Petunia being warmed by the gentle sun.

Or a crusading feudal fanatic. Either way, I am peace and love made manifest.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 06:38 PM

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

My offer to leave it alone in exchange for you leaving Dal Bootha, Xxehan and Quann alone still stands.


If you're just gonna keep dicking me around instead of answering the fucking question, I might as well assume you're just not going to agree to peace. Fine. Hope you enjoy losing 16+ resources' worth of ships and infantry plus a Space Dock.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 07:43 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 19 March 2019 - 06:35 PM, said:

View PostD, on 19 March 2019 - 06:27 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 19 March 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 05:50 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 19 March 2019 - 05:45 PM, said:

The Plan allows for no other sustenance than oats soaked in the tears of unbelievers. I have gorged myself on Solarion salt for some time, but recently my diet has been all Muaat.


I am pretty confident I will be able to ward off whatever you choose to throw at me if you choose to do so. But if it is any consolation, I would be clearing out Gnaw's forces on Gwynan then moving on. I have no designs on MR, particularly now that I have to get my HW back.


Have no fear on that front. You are far away and provide no objectives. I am happy to let your squable play itself out without interference from the Barony.


Where have I seen this before... :p


Not from me. I am but a peacefull Petunia being warmed by the gentle sun.

Or a crusading feudal fanatic. Either way, I am peace and love made manifest.


That is some very nice poetic imagery. Eloquent.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 08:39 PM

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

My offer to leave it alone in exchange for you leaving Dal Bootha, Xxehan and Quann alone still stands.


If you're just gonna keep dicking me around instead of answering the fucking question, I might as well assume you're just not going to agree to peace. Fine. Hope you enjoy losing 16+ resources' worth of ships and infantry plus a Space Dock.


I'm not dicking around. You keep saying you won't do something if I leave you alone. I don't think you can take Gwynan, so why should I agree to your 'offer'?
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 08:54 PM

View PostGnaw, on 19 March 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

My offer to leave it alone in exchange for you leaving Dal Bootha, Xxehan and Quann alone still stands.


If you're just gonna keep dicking me around instead of answering the fucking question, I might as well assume you're just not going to agree to peace. Fine. Hope you enjoy losing 16+ resources' worth of ships and infantry plus a Space Dock.


I'm not dicking around. You keep saying you won't do something if I leave you alone. I don't think you can take Gwynan, so why should I agree to your 'offer'?


So you'd rather chance losing Gwynan than just come to an agreement? Fine.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 08:57 PM

Gnaw if I use Technology when it comes to me will you be using Leadership as your next action?
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 08:58 PM

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 08:54 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 19 March 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

My offer to leave it alone in exchange for you leaving Dal Bootha, Xxehan and Quann alone still stands.


If you're just gonna keep dicking me around instead of answering the fucking question, I might as well assume you're just not going to agree to peace. Fine. Hope you enjoy losing 16+ resources' worth of ships and infantry plus a Space Dock.


I'm not dicking around. You keep saying you won't do something if I leave you alone. I don't think you can take Gwynan, so why should I agree to your 'offer'?


So you'd rather chance losing Gwynan than just come to an agreement? Fine.


Remember at the end of this game that this all could have been avoided for for that 1 resource you just couldn't give up.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:06 PM

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 08:58 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 08:54 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 19 March 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 06:38 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

My offer to leave it alone in exchange for you leaving Dal Bootha, Xxehan and Quann alone still stands.


If you're just gonna keep dicking me around instead of answering the fucking question, I might as well assume you're just not going to agree to peace. Fine. Hope you enjoy losing 16+ resources' worth of ships and infantry plus a Space Dock.


I'm not dicking around. You keep saying you won't do something if I leave you alone. I don't think you can take Gwynan, so why should I agree to your 'offer'?


So you'd rather chance losing Gwynan than just come to an agreement? Fine.


Remember at the end of this game that this all could have been avoided for for that 1 resource you just couldn't give up.


Oh bullshit. The way that was going to work was:
  • I need Lodd Eru for one more round for the red tech.
  • I need Lodd Eru for one more round for the resources to build another war sun.
  • I’m keeping Lodd Eru.
  • What are you going to give me not to take Mordai.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:13 PM

View PostGnaw, on 19 March 2019 - 09:06 PM, said:

Oh bullshit. The way that was going to work was:
  • I need Lodd Eru for one more round for the red tech.
  • I need Lodd Eru for one more round for the resources to build another war sun.
  • I’m keeping Lodd Eru.
  • What are you going to give me not to take Mordai.



I literally asked for it for one additional round - it was so that I'd be able to research War Suns II so that I could claim the unit upgrades PO without first having to research a red tech. I had nothing in terms of ships to try to keep it past that one additional round, and you would have had ships in Mansa blocking me from getting there anyway, so you would have been able to take it.

But you needed that 1 resource so badly, eh?

I would have been very happy to continue what was a very good alliance to that point. But you wouldn't bend, not even a little. Not everyone's a duplicitous asshole, Gnaw.
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Posted 19 March 2019 - 09:19 PM

View PostBlend, on 19 March 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 19 March 2019 - 09:06 PM, said:

Oh bullshit. The way that was going to work was:
  • I need Lodd Eru for one more round for the red tech.
  • I need Lodd Eru for one more round for the resources to build another war sun.
  • I’m keeping Lodd Eru.
  • What are you going to give me not to take Mordai.



I literally asked for it for one additional round - it was so that I'd be able to research War Suns II so that I could claim the unit upgrades PO without first having to research a red tech. I had nothing in terms of ships to try to keep it past that one additional round, and you would have had ships in Mansa blocking me from getting there anyway, so you would have been able to take it.

But you needed that 1 resource so badly, eh?

I would have been very happy to continue what was a very good alliance to that point. But you wouldn't bend, not even a little. Not everyone's a duplicitous asshole, Gnaw.


Post game I'll even post the PM where I told Khell that I was just looking to use it for one extra round. You keep telling me what I would do, but I honestly had no intention of fucking you over. I even went out of my way to offer you something in return for its use (Silvano and the Unexpected Action card).

If you lose this game because you're too busy trying to teach me a lesson, remember. All of this, over 1. Fucking. Resource.
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 08:33 AM

Tapper know it is his turn?
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 09:14 AM

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

Blend, what about the PN trade(s) we proposed?


Thing is I would still like to borrow Lodd Eru for a turn. I would rather do it peacefully, but am not married to that idea.



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View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

Blend, what about the PN trade(s) we proposed?


Thing is I would still like to borrow Lodd Eru for a turn. I would rather do it peacefully, but am not married to that idea.


Well, I'm wanting Mansa III for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. The PNs are only returned upon activating a system with units so that could be arranged. Assuming you're actually going to attack Nom, that is.


I would be willing to do a Support for the Throne swap with you then, in exchange for you and I swapping Lodd Eru and Mansa III sometime in the near future (I am thinking around round 3).


Cool.

Edit: we would be wanting Lodd Eru back after your use of it though. And no parking a war sun or dread there.



View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:52 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:22 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

Blend, what about the PN trade(s) we proposed?


Thing is I would still like to borrow Lodd Eru for a turn. I would rather do it peacefully, but am not married to that idea.


Well, I'm wanting Mansa III for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. The PNs are only returned upon activating a system with units so that could be arranged. Assuming you're actually going to attack Nom, that is.


I would be willing to do a Support for the Throne swap with you then, in exchange for you and I swapping Lodd Eru and Mansa III sometime in the near future (I am thinking around round 3).


Cool.

Edit: we would be wanting Lodd Eru back after your use of it though. And no parking a war sun or dread there.


Understandable. Plan is to move my carrier and infantry to take Mansa III then we can negotiate the swap. Maybe you can take it this round so you can use it then I can take it back after Tech is played?


Eh. Guess I don't want it for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. I was thinking the 3 tech plant PO. Mansa, Lodd, and Wellon.

Go ahead and take it this round if you want it for the yellow tech.


So Blend, you keep pushing this agenda that Gnaw fucked you over by taking Lodd Eru. Yet you agreed everything with him, and said you would clear out and let him have it for the PO.

Now you used it for the PO AND you used it for the red tech..

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Technology Secondary: Exhaust Muaat for 4 resources and Lodd Eru for the Red Tech. Research Magmus Reactor.




Activate Supernova north of Melon/Zohbat.
Move War Sun, 4 Fighters, 1 Infantry from Melon/Zohbat.
Move Cruiser and 1 Infantry from Silvano.

PASS (no secondaries)




CURRENT STAUS

Victory Points: 3

Strategy Card:
Command Pools: 2T | 3F | 1S
Goods: 0/4 C | 0 TG
Action Cards: 3
Promissory Notes: 4 Muaat, 1 Nekro
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 1 unfulfilled

Planets:
+ Muaat (4/1)
+ Dal Bootha (0/2)
+ Xxehan (1/1)
+ Mellon (0/2)
+ Zohbat (3/1)
+ Mansa III (0/1, yellow)
+ Silvano (2/2, green)

+ Lodd Eru (3/0, red)
+ Quann (2/1)

Technologies:
+ Plasma Scoring - When 1 or more of your units use BOMBARDMENT or SPACE CANNON, 1 of those rolls may roll 1 additional die.
+ Sarween Tools - When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator - During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Magmus Reactor -- Your ships can move into supernovas. After 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION in a system that either contains a war sun or is adjacent to a supernova, gain 1 trade good.
+ Stasis Capsules -- Upgrades your Cruiser blueprints to Cruiser II.

Promissory Notes:
+ Nekro Virus Support for the Throne (+1VP)



So you got way more out of it than Gnaw did.

I fully believe that Gnaw would have moved back towards Everra and kept to the bargain if you didn't flip and call him all sorts but don't insult us all by saying it was over 1 resource.

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 01:16 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 20 March 2019 - 09:14 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

Blend, what about the PN trade(s) we proposed?


Thing is I would still like to borrow Lodd Eru for a turn. I would rather do it peacefully, but am not married to that idea.



View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:22 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

Blend, what about the PN trade(s) we proposed?


Thing is I would still like to borrow Lodd Eru for a turn. I would rather do it peacefully, but am not married to that idea.


Well, I'm wanting Mansa III for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. The PNs are only returned upon activating a system with units so that could be arranged. Assuming you're actually going to attack Nom, that is.


I would be willing to do a Support for the Throne swap with you then, in exchange for you and I swapping Lodd Eru and Mansa III sometime in the near future (I am thinking around round 3).


Cool.

Edit: we would be wanting Lodd Eru back after your use of it though. And no parking a war sun or dread there.



View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:52 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:22 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

View PostBlend, on 03 February 2019 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

Blend, what about the PN trade(s) we proposed?


Thing is I would still like to borrow Lodd Eru for a turn. I would rather do it peacefully, but am not married to that idea.


Well, I'm wanting Mansa III for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. The PNs are only returned upon activating a system with units so that could be arranged. Assuming you're actually going to attack Nom, that is.


I would be willing to do a Support for the Throne swap with you then, in exchange for you and I swapping Lodd Eru and Mansa III sometime in the near future (I am thinking around round 3).


Cool.

Edit: we would be wanting Lodd Eru back after your use of it though. And no parking a war sun or dread there.


Understandable. Plan is to move my carrier and infantry to take Mansa III then we can negotiate the swap. Maybe you can take it this round so you can use it then I can take it back after Tech is played?


Eh. Guess I don't want it for the same reason you want Lodd Eru. I was thinking the 3 tech plant PO. Mansa, Lodd, and Wellon.

Go ahead and take it this round if you want it for the yellow tech.


So Blend, you keep pushing this agenda that Gnaw fucked you over by taking Lodd Eru. Yet you agreed everything with him, and said you would clear out and let him have it for the PO.

Now you used it for the PO AND you used it for the red tech..

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Technology Secondary: Exhaust Muaat for 4 resources and Lodd Eru for the Red Tech. Research Magmus Reactor.




Activate Supernova north of Melon/Zohbat.
Move War Sun, 4 Fighters, 1 Infantry from Melon/Zohbat.
Move Cruiser and 1 Infantry from Silvano.

PASS (no secondaries)




CURRENT STAUS

Victory Points: 3

Strategy Card:
Command Pools: 2T | 3F | 1S
Goods: 0/4 C | 0 TG
Action Cards: 3
Promissory Notes: 4 Muaat, 1 Nekro
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 1 unfulfilled

Planets:
+ Muaat (4/1)
+ Dal Bootha (0/2)
+ Xxehan (1/1)
+ Mellon (0/2)
+ Zohbat (3/1)
+ Mansa III (0/1, yellow)
+ Silvano (2/2, green)

+ Lodd Eru (3/0, red)
+ Quann (2/1)

Technologies:
+ Plasma Scoring - When 1 or more of your units use BOMBARDMENT or SPACE CANNON, 1 of those rolls may roll 1 additional die.
+ Sarween Tools - When 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION, reduce the combined cost of the produced units by 1.
+ Neural Motivator - During the status phase, draw 2 action cards instead of 1.
+ Magmus Reactor -- Your ships can move into supernovas. After 1 or more of your units use PRODUCTION in a system that either contains a war sun or is adjacent to a supernova, gain 1 trade good.
+ Stasis Capsules -- Upgrades your Cruiser blueprints to Cruiser II.

Promissory Notes:
+ Nekro Virus Support for the Throne (+1VP)



So you got way more out of it than Gnaw did.

I fully believe that Gnaw would have moved back towards Everra and kept to the bargain if you didn't flip and call him all sorts but don't insult us all by saying it was over 1 resource.


I mean, not that your opinion on my disagreement with Gnaw was asked for or at all necessary, Gnaw got the PO out of it too.
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 01:23 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 20 March 2019 - 08:33 AM, said:

Tapper know it is his turn?


He hasn't been online. Might be his kids are still sick/again and keeping him busy / under the weather.

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 02:35 PM

View PostD, on 20 March 2019 - 01:23 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 20 March 2019 - 08:33 AM, said:

Tapper know it is his turn?


He hasn't been online. Might be his kids are still sick/again and keeping him busy / under the weather.

Just the one kid :p here now, but yeah, have been busy.
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 02:57 PM

Also FYI I'm holding off on doing Tech as my first action. I have a feeling if I use it Gnaw won't use leadership right away and I need leadership to be used before diplomacy.
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 04:24 PM

:p
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Posted 20 March 2019 - 05:36 PM

Sabotaged


Twelve’s up.

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 05:40 PM

View PostGnaw, on 20 March 2019 - 05:36 PM, said:

Sabotaged


Twelve’s up.


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