[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 07 May 2019 - 09:25 PM, said:

IH now that Nom will likely have to pick something else I seem to recall that as part of the deal to attack Morgoth in Rex last round you agreed to not pick Imperial. Are you breaking that deal for just a free secret objective?

I do not think I ever agreed to that. In fact I specifically said I wouldn't be part of any deal which left imperial for morgoth to choose.

[Imperial Historian]

Gnaw, on 07 May 2019 - 09:04 PM, said:

D, on 07 May 2019 - 03:23 AM, said:

Ooo politics. Gnaw, since I'm right before you in strategy order I'll definitely be interested in trading you something in exchange for making me speaker, and I'll not pick whatever SC you want. Like, say, my research PN (helps getting the technology PO).

Light/Wave Deflector
3 votes placed when and where I say.
And a freebie on PDS fire should I decide to appropriate your destroyer in the asteroid field.

IH, should she agree I’d appreciate you taking the commodity rather than a TG.

I'd appreciate if you started trying to win the game, rather than win the game for Morgoth. Until that happens it's open season.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 07 May 2019 - 10:33 PM, said:

twelve, on 07 May 2019 - 09:25 PM, said:

IH now that Nom will likely have to pick something else I seem to recall that as part of the deal to attack Morgoth in Rex last round you agreed to not pick Imperial. Are you breaking that deal for just a free secret objective?

I do not think I ever agreed to that. In fact I specifically said I wouldn't be part of any deal which left imperial for morgoth to choose.

I specifically stated that was one of the terms of our deal. But regardless if you stated you would pick it or not, if you have an opportunity to select it that means Morgoth passed on it. And with Morgoth's chances to score any PO reduced significantly if he goes after me Im very confident he wont pick it as his choice.

So why do you want it so bad anyway? You can only score 1 po and that is lead from the front. So unless you have a secret objective that can be scored during the action phase(are there even any left?) Imperial does you almost no good. Why can't I have it?

[twelve]

And if you are just trying to be mean or trying to extort me what will it cost me for you not to pick it?

[Imperial Historian]

I don't want anyone to have imperial, but if anyone is to get it I want it to be me because I want to win the game and that is less likely to happen if someone else has imperial as then they can catch up.

You may have said initially you wanted imperial, but the deal changed massively over the negotiations and I said I would not be part of any deal where imperial was left for morgoth.

If you want me to leave you imperial what are you offering?

[Imperial Historian]

And I don't want you specifically to get imperial because you have the potential to score 7 VP this turn which would win you the game. So it would have to be a lot.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 07 May 2019 - 11:00 PM, said:

And I don't want you specifically to get imperial because you have the potential to score 7 VP this turn which would win you the game. So it would have to be a lot.

Have you seen my board position? I have only 1 phase 2 PO I'll be able to score. There is no way Morgoth will let my fleet live after what I did last round for your major benefit too I might add. Or if I retreat, the ships will be trapped on Rex. I want Imperial so I can maybe beat Gnaw in points. I still think either you or Morgoth is going to win. I'm just tired of being near the bottom in points. Even with Imperial my cap is 4 VP maybe 5 if I score lead from the front as the second PO. That still leaves me 2 VP short. And that is if I can even score a secret objective. There is a reason I haven't scored any all game. I bleeding can't seem to meet the requirements. I'm just asking for a respectable finish for once. With that all said I don't have all that much to offer. I have my trade agreement pn and an action card that allows you a stall as long as it's not used against me. Is that anywhere close enough to pass on it?

[twelve]

And Nom had a sabatoge. Should have known that was going to happen.

[Morgoth]

Hey Gnaw, is there some agreement that we could come to that would make you leave me be?

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 07 May 2019 - 11:32 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 07 May 2019 - 11:00 PM, said:

And I don't want you specifically to get imperial because you have the potential to score 7 VP this turn which would win you the game. So it would have to be a lot.

Have you seen my board position? I have only 1 phase 2 PO I'll be able to score. There is no way Morgoth will let my fleet live after what I did last round for your major benefit too I might add. Or if I retreat, the ships will be trapped on Rex. I want Imperial so I can maybe beat Gnaw in points. I still think either you or Morgoth is going to win. I'm just tired of being near the bottom in points. Even with Imperial my cap is 4 VP maybe 5 if I score lead from the front as the second PO. That still leaves me 2 VP short. And that is if I can even score a secret objective. There is a reason I haven't scored any all game. I bleeding can't seem to meet the requirements. I'm just asking for a respectable finish for once. With that all said I don't have all that much to offer. I have my trade agreement pn and an action card that allows you a stall as long as it's not used against me. Is that anywhere close enough to pass on it?

You can score the 10tg PO and have a reasonable chance of scoring both the 10 planet and galactic brain trust (especially with imperial and a following wind), and have two unscored secret objectives.

Since you can't trade in this phase apparently, and the subject is now moot not much we can do anymore. I'm not trying to be particularly mean to you!

[Tattersail_]

D, on 07 May 2019 - 09:09 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 07 May 2019 - 09:04 PM, said:

D, on 07 May 2019 - 03:23 AM, said:

Ooo politics. Gnaw, since I'm right before you in strategy order I'll definitely be interested in trading you something in exchange for making me speaker, and I'll not pick whatever SC you want. Like, say, my research PN (helps getting the technology PO).

Light/Wave Deflector
3 votes placed when and where I say.
And a freebie on PDS fire should I decide to appropriate your destroyer in the asteroid field.

Hmmm, okay, but with the added caveat that you'll send no more than 2 ships against the destroyer (or only 1 ship if it's a war sun / flagship). More than that looks too much like an invasion force and I can't withhold PDS. Besides, you need to leave 1 behind to blockade IH anyways, right? (Also, note it's a fighter in the asteroid field, not a destroyer.) Deal?

He can only reach it with 3 cruisers.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth which strategy are you going for? Right now I am imagining you running 100's of simulations like Dr Strange in Infinity War.

[Blend]

Longest strategy phase ever!

[Morgoth]

Sorry, I'm having a hard time figuring out what to do.

[twelve]

Well I have no desire to attack you if that helps and if you give me a chance I'll turn tail and run back to Rex bringing everything with me.

[Itwæs Nom]

twelve, on 08 May 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

Well I have no desire to attack you if that helps and if you give me a chance I'll turn tail and run back to Rex bringing everything with me.

If I keep Imperial I'll be going for Rex and unless you've got some really convenient ACs I doubt you can fortify it well enough to guard me off with your current fleet capacity, just sayin

[twelve]

Itwæs Nom, on 08 May 2019 - 08:59 PM, said:

twelve, on 08 May 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

Well I have no desire to attack you if that helps and if you give me a chance I'll turn tail and run back to Rex bringing everything with me.

If I keep Imperial I'll be going for Rex and unless you've got some really convenient ACs I doubt you can fortify it well enough to guard me off with your current fleet capacity, just sayin

As we can't trade strategy cards the only way you'll lose it is if Gnaw steals it, which I doubt he'll do as he could have just taken it when it was his turn.

[Tattersail_]

He cannot

[Imperial Historian]

This is a long strategy phase....

Come on Morgoth I've waited long enough for my inevitable doom now...

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 08 May 2019 - 09:48 PM, said:

This is a long strategy phase....

Come on Morgoth I've waited long enough for my inevitable doom now...

Yeah, just take trade already. It's the best one left unless you want to build a bunch of pds then take construction.