[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 05 April 2019 - 07:39 PM, said:

D, on 05 April 2019 - 02:04 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 05 April 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:

D, on 05 April 2019 - 01:47 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 05 April 2019 - 01:41 PM, said:

D, on 05 April 2019 - 01:38 PM, said:

Tatts, with my Industrial Initiative done you're all good now to take back Arnor/Lor whenever you want. If you play warfare first I'll use the secondary of it to move the destroyer out, but if you don't want to wait I don't mind if you go now and just destroy the destroyer.

I'll play warfare then that frees up my ships to be able to move. I may leave you Arnor/Lor depending on what I can achieve. Where are you planning on moving the dread and destroyers to?

Destroyer in Arnor/Lor to the gravity rift (since you want the beta WH kept clear). Homeworld forces to Mehar Xull. Or maybe Saudor.

This is a very aggressive action towards some simple tax collectors.

DAEY TUK UR GEOBS

Just realised you eres siphoned after morgoth moved into the alpha wormhole i would have taxed that too. Not sure if you accounted for that. I think khell forgot that I can tax you now. Assume I'm always taxing you

Taxation is a vital part of any functioning economy.

What is this taxation you speak of? I see no such thing on your race sheet

[Imperial Historian]

Taxation, pillaging, why get bogged down with the meaning of words. The mentak are peaceful definitely not piratical folk.

[D'rek]

WORDS MEAN WORDS!

[Itwæs Nom]

When I wake up I guess

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 05 April 2019 - 09:03 PM, said:

Taxation, pillaging, why get bogged down with the meaning of words. The mentak are peaceful definitely not piratical folk.

Requests for charitable contributions? Strongly worded, highly persuasive requests?

[Imperial Historian]

I am very persuasive.

I've not put any trades in because I'm still unsure as to what Gnaw has actually agreed to with twelve. Will do trades once Gnaw actually trades his ceasefire.

My preference is to make a binding deal with twelve ie i give twelve my rscial PN to attack morgoth and he trades it to Tapper.

[Imperial Historian]

Also since khell is now wanting strict provisionals i have changed mine to fire on everything when possible and loot whenever possible.

If it turns out i have looted you when we have a deal not too i will return the TG.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

I am very persuasive.

I've not put any trades in because I'm still unsure as to what Gnaw has actually agreed to with twelve. Will do trades once Gnaw actually trades his ceasefire.

My preference is to make a binding deal with twelve ie i give twelve my rscial PN to attack morgoth and he trades it to Tapper.

Binding Deals are good Say on my turn if I activate Rex IH Agrees to no pillage and gives me his racial, Gnaw Gives me Morgoth's Ceasefire and Tapper Gives me his action card and I give Tapper 2 action cards.

The only part of the deal I have issue with is the fact that you have 8 Trade goods now. So instead of waiting until my turn for the trade you could make a trade Tapper's Turn to exchange your 8 TGs to Tapper for your promise of protection and Tappers Trade agreement PN So on my turn I get the action cards and trade goods at the same time and then Tapper can assign you his biomes or however you guys want to work it out.

As it is Tapper's turn right now. I just want confirmation that Gnaw will still give me Morgoth's Ceasefire regardless of if he is attacking me right away or not.

[twelve]

I'm off to do some painting before my brother comes over for a visit but I'll try and check the forum from time to time if any of the concerned parties want to pop on to formalize the deal.

[Gnaw]

twelve, on 06 April 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

I am very persuasive.

I've not put any trades in because I'm still unsure as to what Gnaw has actually agreed to with twelve. Will do trades once Gnaw actually trades his ceasefire.

My preference is to make a binding deal with twelve ie i give twelve my rscial PN to attack morgoth and he trades it to Tapper.

Binding Deals are good Say on my turn if I activate Rex IH Agrees to no pillage and gives me his racial, Gnaw Gives me Morgoth's Ceasefire and Tapper Gives me his action card and I give Tapper 2 action cards.

The only part of the deal I have issue with is the fact that you have 8 Trade goods now. So instead of waiting until my turn for the trade you could make a trade Tapper's Turn to exchange your 8 TGs to Tapper for your promise of protection and Tappers Trade agreement PN So on my turn I get the action cards and trade goods at the same time and then Tapper can assign you his biomes or however you guys want to work it out.

As it is Tapper's turn right now. I just want confirmation that Gnaw will still give me Morgoth's Ceasefire regardless of if he is attacking me right away or not.

yes

[Tapper]

twelve, on 06 April 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

I am very persuasive.

I've not put any trades in because I'm still unsure as to what Gnaw has actually agreed to with twelve. Will do trades once Gnaw actually trades his ceasefire.

My preference is to make a binding deal with twelve ie i give twelve my rscial PN to attack morgoth and he trades it to Tapper.

Binding Deals are good Say on my turn if I activate Rex IH Agrees to no pillage and gives me his racial, Gnaw Gives me Morgoth's Ceasefire and Tapper Gives me his action card and I give Tapper 2 action cards.

The only part of the deal I have issue with is the fact that you have 8 Trade goods now. So instead of waiting until my turn for the trade you could make a trade Tapper's Turn to exchange your 8 TGs to Tapper for your promise of protection and Tappers Trade agreement PN So on my turn I get the action cards and trade goods at the same time and then Tapper can assign you his biomes or however you guys want to work it out.

As it is Tapper's turn right now. I just want confirmation that Gnaw will still give me Morgoth's Ceasefire regardless of if he is attacking me right away or not.

Yeah, well.

I said I'd guarantee the 8 TG and my word for that ought is good. However, since IH publicly said he'll have Khell auto-pillage, I want his PN before I use Biomes or trade you stuff, just to avoid confusion caused by auto-orders.

[D'rek]

Fiiiiinally he gets Mirror Computing. Can't believe you waited this long! Welp, if IH's last SO is the 4-tech-1-colour one I guess that's it then. Otherwise, I think he can only get to 11 in this agenda phase.


@Tatts - I think I will refresh commodities after all, since IH played it this early. Were you already all set for commodity trades with Tapper, or did you want to trade some?


Also, doubt anyone cares too much at this point unless they're trying to fulfill a particular objective, but I'm done all the researches I actually needed, so if anyone wants a copy-JolNar-tech promissory note it's for sale for cheap (since its so late in the game) and I'll research whatever you want.

[twelve]

Tapper, on 06 April 2019 - 04:12 PM, said:

twelve, on 06 April 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

I am very persuasive.

I've not put any trades in because I'm still unsure as to what Gnaw has actually agreed to with twelve. Will do trades once Gnaw actually trades his ceasefire.

My preference is to make a binding deal with twelve ie i give twelve my rscial PN to attack morgoth and he trades it to Tapper.

Binding Deals are good Say on my turn if I activate Rex IH Agrees to no pillage and gives me his racial, Gnaw Gives me Morgoth's Ceasefire and Tapper Gives me his action card and I give Tapper 2 action cards.

The only part of the deal I have issue with is the fact that you have 8 Trade goods now. So instead of waiting until my turn for the trade you could make a trade Tapper's Turn to exchange your 8 TGs to Tapper for your promise of protection and Tappers Trade agreement PN So on my turn I get the action cards and trade goods at the same time and then Tapper can assign you his biomes or however you guys want to work it out.

As it is Tapper's turn right now. I just want confirmation that Gnaw will still give me Morgoth's Ceasefire regardless of if he is attacking me right away or not.

Yeah, well.

I said I'd guarantee the 8 TG and my word for that ought is good. However, since IH publicly said he'll have Khell auto-pillage, I want his PN before I use Biomes or trade you stuff, just to avoid confusion caused by auto-orders.

That's why I suggested that IH gives you his Racial and TGs on your turn ... Oh the racial needs to be played as an action before it goes into effect. I forgot about that part of it. But no pillage is a binding deal if it's a direct swap. You can still do the racial and trade good swap with no pillage. Play his racial as your next action then on my turn he agrees to the no pillage to me on trades if I activate rex and then he can pillage me later when I exchange commodities with you I assume.

[Galactic Council]

@ Nom: Please remember to tidy up your post as soon as you are able.

[Gnaw]

Gnaw, on 06 April 2019 - 04:09 PM, said:

twelve, on 06 April 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

I am very persuasive.

I've not put any trades in because I'm still unsure as to what Gnaw has actually agreed to with twelve. Will do trades once Gnaw actually trades his ceasefire.

My preference is to make a binding deal with twelve ie i give twelve my rscial PN to attack morgoth and he trades it to Tapper.

Binding Deals are good Say on my turn if I activate Rex IH Agrees to no pillage and gives me his racial, Gnaw Gives me Morgoth's Ceasefire and Tapper Gives me his action card and I give Tapper 2 action cards.

The only part of the deal I have issue with is the fact that you have 8 Trade goods now. So instead of waiting until my turn for the trade you could make a trade Tapper's Turn to exchange your 8 TGs to Tapper for your promise of protection and Tappers Trade agreement PN So on my turn I get the action cards and trade goods at the same time and then Tapper can assign you his biomes or however you guys want to work it out.

As it is Tapper's turn right now. I just want confirmation that Gnaw will still give me Morgoth's Ceasefire regardless of if he is attacking me right away or not.

yes

Actually, no. No deal.

Now that IH has mirror computing he is going to cover the spread next round at the latest. There's no path for me to be able to get there before him. So, if I can't win, my preference is to help Morgoth.

Morgoth, anything you need from me to help you?

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 06 April 2019 - 05:36 PM

[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 06 April 2019 - 05:35 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 06 April 2019 - 04:09 PM, said:

twelve, on 06 April 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

I am very persuasive.

I've not put any trades in because I'm still unsure as to what Gnaw has actually agreed to with twelve. Will do trades once Gnaw actually trades his ceasefire.

My preference is to make a binding deal with twelve ie i give twelve my rscial PN to attack morgoth and he trades it to Tapper.

Binding Deals are good Say on my turn if I activate Rex IH Agrees to no pillage and gives me his racial, Gnaw Gives me Morgoth's Ceasefire and Tapper Gives me his action card and I give Tapper 2 action cards.

The only part of the deal I have issue with is the fact that you have 8 Trade goods now. So instead of waiting until my turn for the trade you could make a trade Tapper's Turn to exchange your 8 TGs to Tapper for your promise of protection and Tappers Trade agreement PN So on my turn I get the action cards and trade goods at the same time and then Tapper can assign you his biomes or however you guys want to work it out.

As it is Tapper's turn right now. I just want confirmation that Gnaw will still give me Morgoth's Ceasefire regardless of if he is attacking me right away or not.

yes

Actually, no. No deal.

Now that IH has mirror computing he is going to cover the spread next round at the latest. There's no path for me to be able to get there before him. So, if I can't win, my preference is to help Morgoth.

Morgoth, anything you need from me to help you?

"Cover the spread"?

I don't think Morgoth needs your help. And if you're 100% convinced that IH or Morgoth will win, why not try to maximize your own score? Get that "average across all games" rating up!

[Imperial Historian]

Even if my SO is the tech one I can still only get to 11 this round. I have slightly more than 50% chance of being able to win next round, by no means a sure thing and i still have to survive next round if that does happen.

Tapper if any of the trades are short due to my pillaging i will recompense the difference on my following turn. Khell isnt allowing looting on a by post basis so its easier to autoloot and resolve the difference afterwards.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 06 April 2019 - 06:39 PM, said:

Even if my SO is the tech one I can still only get to 11 this round. I have slightly more than 50% chance of being able to win next round, by no means a sure thing and i still have to survive next round if that does happen.

Tapper if any of the trades are short due to my pillaging i will recompense the difference on my following turn. Khell isnt allowing looting on a by post basis so its easier to autoloot and resolve the difference afterwards.

11 by status phase, and then Blend wants to give you his SFTT in Agenda phase.

[Imperial Historian]

Nom has blends sftt now

[Imperial Historian]

And from his researches pretty sure he has the two racial tech so as well