[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 24 February 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 February 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2019 - 10:24 PM, said:

IH.

I've consulted the IH4 Battle Simulator and if I attack with my Carrier and 2 fighters it says that I win the fight against your cruiser II 74% of the time. I thought that had to be wrong so I went to a die simulator and pumped out about 30 simulated battles with your ambush and 50% hit rate and I was very surprise to see that I did win at that rate.So I'm convinced that the odds really do favor me enough that I'm going to risk the fight unless you want to work something out where you leave on your own. I was thinking I would pay 1 TG for you to vacate. You wanted to move your cruiser to Malice anyway. Now you can still do that and gain the 1 trade good you would have pillage off me earlier in the round but didn't due to some crazy die shenanigans. Let me know your thoughts.

Are you taking into account the 2 PDS shots protecting tar'mann from d'rek as we have an agreed mutual defence pact?

I can no longer move to mallice due to owning tatts sftt.

So not particularly eager to move for 1tg...

Yes the PDS fire is a non-issue. If the 1 trade good isn't enough what do you propose would be a fair trade?

For me to move and evacuate tar'mann in my upcoming turn? 2 tg, or one TG and an action card via tapper.

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 24 February 2019 - 07:30 PM, said:

For me to move and evacuate tar'mann in my upcoming turn? 2 tg, or one TG and an action card via tapper.

So pay 2TG or 2TG and an action card. Tapper’s fee.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 24 February 2019 - 09:33 PM

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 24 February 2019 - 07:30 PM, said:

twelve, on 24 February 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 February 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2019 - 10:24 PM, said:

IH.

I've consulted the IH4 Battle Simulator and if I attack with my Carrier and 2 fighters it says that I win the fight against your cruiser II 74% of the time. I thought that had to be wrong so I went to a die simulator and pumped out about 30 simulated battles with your ambush and 50% hit rate and I was very surprise to see that I did win at that rate.So I'm convinced that the odds really do favor me enough that I'm going to risk the fight unless you want to work something out where you leave on your own. I was thinking I would pay 1 TG for you to vacate. You wanted to move your cruiser to Malice anyway. Now you can still do that and gain the 1 trade good you would have pillage off me earlier in the round but didn't due to some crazy die shenanigans. Let me know your thoughts.

Are you taking into account the 2 PDS shots protecting tar'mann from d'rek as we have an agreed mutual defence pact?

I can no longer move to mallice due to owning tatts sftt.

So not particularly eager to move for 1tg...

Yes the PDS fire is a non-issue. If the 1 trade good isn't enough what do you propose would be a fair trade?

For me to move and evacuate tar'mann in my upcoming turn? 2 tg, or one TG and an action card via tapper.

I think I can go to 2 but I need to figure out if I'll even have 2 to give. If not would you accept one this round and 1 next?

[twelve]

And of course when you move it's not to the Beta wormhole to block me from moving into Tarr'mann. Felt that was implied as part of the trade but decided to voice it just so there are no misunderstandings.

[Gnaw]

twelve, on 24 February 2019 - 10:08 PM, said:

And of course when you move it's not to the Beta wormhole to block me from moving into Tarr'mann. Felt that was implied as part of the trade but decided to voice it just so there are no misunderstandings.

You realize there’s a good chance you’ll be psying him to move that cruiser to Rex don’t you?

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 24 February 2019 - 10:05 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 February 2019 - 07:30 PM, said:

twelve, on 24 February 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 February 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2019 - 10:24 PM, said:

IH.

I've consulted the IH4 Battle Simulator and if I attack with my Carrier and 2 fighters it says that I win the fight against your cruiser II 74% of the time. I thought that had to be wrong so I went to a die simulator and pumped out about 30 simulated battles with your ambush and 50% hit rate and I was very surprise to see that I did win at that rate.So I'm convinced that the odds really do favor me enough that I'm going to risk the fight unless you want to work something out where you leave on your own. I was thinking I would pay 1 TG for you to vacate. You wanted to move your cruiser to Malice anyway. Now you can still do that and gain the 1 trade good you would have pillage off me earlier in the round but didn't due to some crazy die shenanigans. Let me know your thoughts.

Are you taking into account the 2 PDS shots protecting tar'mann from d'rek as we have an agreed mutual defence pact?

I can no longer move to mallice due to owning tatts sftt.

So not particularly eager to move for 1tg...

Yes the PDS fire is a non-issue. If the 1 trade good isn't enough what do you propose would be a fair trade?

For me to move and evacuate tar'mann in my upcoming turn? 2 tg, or one TG and an action card via tapper.

I think I can go to 2 but I need to figure out if I'll even have 2 to give. If not would you accept one this round and 1 next?

That would be fine. I'm not promising to give you tar'mann in perpetuity mind, if I decide I need it back I may take it but I won't contend it for a couple of rounds.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 24 February 2019 - 10:43 PM, said:

twelve, on 24 February 2019 - 10:05 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 February 2019 - 07:30 PM, said:

twelve, on 24 February 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 24 February 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

twelve, on 23 February 2019 - 10:24 PM, said:

IH.

I've consulted the IH4 Battle Simulator and if I attack with my Carrier and 2 fighters it says that I win the fight against your cruiser II 74% of the time. I thought that had to be wrong so I went to a die simulator and pumped out about 30 simulated battles with your ambush and 50% hit rate and I was very surprise to see that I did win at that rate.So I'm convinced that the odds really do favor me enough that I'm going to risk the fight unless you want to work something out where you leave on your own. I was thinking I would pay 1 TG for you to vacate. You wanted to move your cruiser to Malice anyway. Now you can still do that and gain the 1 trade good you would have pillage off me earlier in the round but didn't due to some crazy die shenanigans. Let me know your thoughts.

Are you taking into account the 2 PDS shots protecting tar'mann from d'rek as we have an agreed mutual defence pact?

I can no longer move to mallice due to owning tatts sftt.

So not particularly eager to move for 1tg...

Yes the PDS fire is a non-issue. If the 1 trade good isn't enough what do you propose would be a fair trade?

For me to move and evacuate tar'mann in my upcoming turn? 2 tg, or one TG and an action card via tapper.

I think I can go to 2 but I need to figure out if I'll even have 2 to give. If not would you accept one this round and 1 next?

That would be fine. I'm not promising to give you tar'mann in perpetuity mind, if I decide I need it back I may take it but I won't contend it for a couple of rounds.

I don't particularly want Tarr'Mann for anything other than the VP.

I'll play Imperial as my next action and when you move out I'll pay you the 1 tg this round and will pay you one next round

[Blend]

So I just wanna make sure Tapps is willing to do a 2:2, then I will play.

[Tapper]

Blend, on 25 February 2019 - 03:39 AM, said:

So I just wanna make sure Tapps is willing to do a 2:2, then I will play.

Trade your 2 commodities with my 2 Trade Goods, and we are fine: if my 1 remaining commodity is included, it would be pirated and I'd make technically a loss. This way, I can offer it at the leatst during the Status Phase in a package of 3.

[Tattersail_]

Hmm so does anyone have commodities to trade?

[Morgoth]

Tattersail_, on 25 February 2019 - 08:17 AM, said:

Hmm so does anyone have commodities to trade?

No, D'rek was mean and refused to give me a free refresh.

[Tattersail_]

I'm intending to refresh anyway and because D'rek was mean, my next action is quite funny. Petty revenge really.

Tapper are we able to trade or not? I get 4:4 is out of the question with your new trading strategy.

[Gnaw]

Tattersail_, on 25 February 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

I'm intending to refresh anyway and because D'rek was mean, my next action is quite funny. Petty revenge really.

Tapper are we able to trade or not? I get 4:4 is out of the question with your new trading strategy.

I’ll have 2TG on your turn for swapping for your commodities.

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw, on 25 February 2019 - 08:31 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 February 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

I'm intending to refresh anyway and because D'rek was mean, my next action is quite funny. Petty revenge really.

Tapper are we able to trade or not? I get 4:4 is out of the question with your new trading strategy.

I'll have 2TG on your turn for swapping for your commodities.

Ar the moment I could only trade with you in the Agenda phase. So if you have TG's then would you trade with me?

[Tattersail_]

@IH would you trade 2 commodities for 2 TG's?

[Gnaw]

Nvm. I thought we had a shared border.

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw, on 25 February 2019 - 08:44 AM, said:

Nvm. I thought we had a shared border.

You're not in Quann yet

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 25 February 2019 - 08:43 AM, said:

@IH would you trade 2 commodities for 2 TG's?

I'd trade 3 commodities for 2TG.

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 25 February 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

I'm intending to refresh anyway and because D'rek was mean, my next action is quite funny. Petty revenge really.

Tapper are we able to trade or not? I get 4:4 is out of the question with your new trading strategy.

Sorry, a 4:4 is indeed impossible. I am surprised you ask, though.

Since you are bordering IH through a wormhole, are you sure you want to even refresh? I am not sure if IH agreed to not pirate you the entire round or just on that one transaction you made with him, but if he can pirate your trades, you'd spend a CT for a refresh and end up with 3 TG, the exact equivalent of that CT. Keeping the CT would allow you to fulfill Lead from the Front, while still allowing you to build in Arnor/Lor through exhausting Jord, if you so fancy.

As you can only build 1 extra ship in Arnor/Lor before you reach your cap (although that could be a Carrier with fighters, of course), I really do not see a big short term benefit for you in refreshing commodities this round.
So, what are your plans? And why should I help you out, after your about-face earlier this round with regard to Mallice?

[Tapper]

Anyway, if you want to trade, Tatts: I'll give you 3 TG for your Trade Agreement PN.
The three can be paid however you want - 2 upfront so you can spend them, then 1 later (Status Phase?), or as a lump sum of 3.

To compare IH's offer to mine:
He asks 3 commodities, gives you 2 TG and leaves you with 1 untraded commodity.
If you trade that one, he can potentially pirate either your side of the deal, the player you trade with, or both. In that scenario, you have a net gain of 2 or 3 TG out of 4 while making you spend a CT.

I give you 3, one of which may be pirated, depending on how you want the pay-off.
The big advantage I offer is that I will now save you the CT you'd need to spend for refreshing commodities. It also becomes my headache to secure you a refresh of commodities to get my reward. The big downside for you is of course that you forego 4 commodities somewhere down the line.