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Posted 21 February 2019 - 10:18 AM

Interesting to see the impact of quantum datahubs, it's not been in the game before I don't think. Going to change the strategy pick dynamic I think once people figure it out.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 10:41 AM

It's source of worry for sure.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:29 AM

Morgoth you are up. And I think Nom might want zohbat back blend :D that's a mighty fleet he's building.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?


I don't think so.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:40 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 February 2019 - 10:18 AM, said:

Interesting to see the impact of quantum datahubs, it's not been in the game before I don't think. Going to change the strategy pick dynamic I think once people figure it out.

I will be very clear which Strategy I want each round, ideally well before the selection procedure starts, so that those picking before me have ample time to decide to pass it on - or not.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:43 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?


They do
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:43 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?

I'd say that they do - don't regular racial technologies also count for tech prerequisites?

On top of that, races like Sol (with 2 racial upgrades) would have a really impossible time fulfilling upgrade tech related objectives if their racials don't count.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:03 PM

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View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?


I don't think so.


Yes, but the one up at the moment is a unit upgrade tech PO, not colour-related. But if you were just asking generally, yes they do.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:05 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 21 February 2019 - 12:03 PM, said:

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View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?


I don't think so.


Yes, but the one up at the moment is a unit upgrade tech PO, not colour-related. But if you were just asking generally, yes they do.


How do you know what a racial tech upgrade colour is though? I assume mine are blue and green?
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:07 PM

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View PostTattersail_, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?


I don't think so.


Yes, but the one up at the moment is a unit upgrade tech PO, not colour-related. But if you were just asking generally, yes they do.


How do you know what a racial tech upgrade colour is though? I assume mine are blue and green?


It’s what colour they give you. Yours are both unit upgrades though, so don’t count towards colour objectives I believe.

Edit: So for example Tapper’s Quantum Datahub counts as one yellow prerequisite.

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:07 PM

I will resolve the PDS fire and combat when I get home in about an hour or so.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:13 PM

View PostTapper, on 21 February 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?

I'd say that they do - don't regular racial technologies also count for tech prerequisites?

On top of that, races like Sol (with 2 racial upgrades) would have a really impossible time fulfilling upgrade tech related objectives if their racials don't count.



Tapper says this, so should the Carrier 2 give me blue pre-requisite or not?

edit, and it does not count towards colour related tech objectives?

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:16 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 21 February 2019 - 12:13 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 21 February 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?

I'd say that they do - don't regular racial technologies also count for tech prerequisites?

On top of that, races like Sol (with 2 racial upgrades) would have a really impossible time fulfilling upgrade tech related objectives if their racials don't count.



Tapper says this, so should the Carrier 2 give me blue pre-requisite or not?

edit, and it does not count towards colour related tech objectives?


No it does not, it is a unit upgrade and you cannot use it as a prerequisite for ‘regular’ tech. Just like you can’t use any normal unit upgrade, which are effectively colourless.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:17 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 21 February 2019 - 12:16 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 21 February 2019 - 12:13 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 21 February 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?

I'd say that they do - don't regular racial technologies also count for tech prerequisites?

On top of that, races like Sol (with 2 racial upgrades) would have a really impossible time fulfilling upgrade tech related objectives if their racials don't count.



Tapper says this, so should the Carrier 2 give me blue pre-requisite or not?

edit, and it does not count towards colour related tech objectives?


No it does not, it is a unit upgrade and you cannot use it as a prerequisite for 'regular' tech. Just like you can't use any normal unit upgrade, which are effectively colourless.


I thought so, just checking.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:18 PM

While Sol may seem cheated by this, you do on the other hand have an advantage in the PO which is currently on the board, as you are very incentivised to upgrade your special units.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:22 PM

not to mention that their special units are awesome.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:23 PM

And blue/green is clearly the best tech path
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:51 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 21 February 2019 - 12:13 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 21 February 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 21 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Does the racial techs count towards the tech colour public objectives?

I'd say that they do - don't regular racial technologies also count for tech prerequisites?

On top of that, races like Sol (with 2 racial upgrades) would have a really impossible time fulfilling upgrade tech related objectives if their racials don't count.



Tapper says this, so should the Carrier 2 give me blue pre-requisite or not?

edit, and it does not count towards colour related tech objectives?

I do say "upgrade tech related objectives" - as in "Develop Weaponry -- 1VP -- Status Phase -- Own 2 unit upgrade technologies." Your racial tech upgrades (Infantry and Carrier) count towards fulfilling that.
They do not count as green and blue tech prerequisites: I never meant to state that they did, I only said that (let's say) Production Biomes counts as a Green tech for prerequisites.

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 02:27 PM

Gnaw, what tech are you assimilating?
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