[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 19 February 2019 - 10:19 PM, said:

D’rek, any chance of a free refresh please? The answer is always ‘no’ unless one asks.

I already said I would (in exchange for you helping me turn my commods to TGs) remember?

Gnaw, on 19 February 2019 - 05:46 PM, said:

D, on 19 February 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

@MacGnaw - If you swap your 2 TGs for my 2 commodities on my first turn I'll give you a free refresh with Trade.

Done

[Gnaw]

D, on 19 February 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 19 February 2019 - 10:19 PM, said:

D'rek, any chance of a free refresh please? The answer is always 'no' unless one asks.

I already said I would (in exchange for you helping me turn my commods to TGs) remember?

Gnaw, on 19 February 2019 - 05:46 PM, said:

D, on 19 February 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

@MacGnaw - If you swap your 2 TGs for my 2 commodities on my first turn I'll give you a free refresh with Trade.

Done

Oh. Doh.

That was a rather intense therapy session ago.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 19 February 2019 - 10:34 PM

[Gnaw]

Galactic Council, on 19 February 2019 - 09:58 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 19 February 2019 - 09:49 PM, said:

I take it Tatts is going to sleep on it before moving? 😕

He may have been watching the Champions League game.

Sports taking priority over the Throne!?! That alone should disqualify the Solarians from contention.

[twelve]

twelve, on 19 February 2019 - 10:25 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 February 2019 - 10:01 PM, said:

Twelve straight swap - 4TG for my SFTT.

I'm wanting to build first turn you see.

I'm likely needing them for leadership so I have CT to use this round. I can't spend them until trade is used. Sorry.

The best I can do is 2. If that is enough for your Sftt or trade agreement I'll trade.

[D'rek]

Tatts, don't sweat it, I'm not gonna research Dread 2.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 19 February 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

twelve, on 19 February 2019 - 10:25 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 February 2019 - 10:01 PM, said:

Twelve straight swap - 4TG for my SFTT.

I'm wanting to build first turn you see.

I'm likely needing them for leadership so I have CT to use this round. I can't spend them until trade is used. Sorry.

The best I can do is 2. If that is enough for your Sftt or trade agreement I'll trade.

If you give me 2 I'll give you 3 when I refresh trade?

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 19 February 2019 - 10:54 PM, said:

twelve, on 19 February 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

twelve, on 19 February 2019 - 10:25 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 February 2019 - 10:01 PM, said:

Twelve straight swap - 4TG for my SFTT.

I'm wanting to build first turn you see.

I'm likely needing them for leadership so I have CT to use this round. I can't spend them until trade is used. Sorry.

The best I can do is 2. If that is enough for your Sftt or trade agreement I'll trade.

If you give me 2 I'll give you 3 when I refresh trade?

Deal.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 19 February 2019 - 09:08 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 19 February 2019 - 08:03 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 February 2019 - 07:12 PM, said:

@IH

My SFTT on the table...

Valuing the VP at 8 resources or 3 CT. I've had a think and it could be yours for..

4 TG, do not block beta wormhole, no pillaging me this round, play construction on second turn or later.

No conflict over Tar'mann this round or next.

I think I may be selling myself short but what are your thoughts?

Considering you valued it as just a strategy pick a day ago if anything I think you are over valuing it.

I'm not really interested in that trade Tatts, me having your sftt gives you security, paints a target on my back as points leader and no guarantee I'm going to get the VP as there are plenty of reasons between now and end game where I might be forced to attack you.

I'd do a straight swap of your sftt for not blocking the wormhole, playing construction 2nd turn (as I have to burn an action card to do that) and no pillaging this round.

Always odds hugely in your favour. You are already points leader so don't come at me with that.

SFTT for 4TG and don't block beta wormhole. Construction not on your first turn.

We already had an agreement regarding Mallice so not moving into beta wormhole is something that you should be doing anyway. Was you planning on using construction first turn?

Tatts negotiating a deal in my favour is the point of the game.

D'rek has offered me a free refresh to move into the beta wormhole. That's worth 3tg.

Plus I'd also likely get another 1 or 2 tg from twelve/whoever moves into quann.

If I don't move onto the beta wormhole there aren't many stall moves worth doing so I'd have to play an action card in order to play construction 2nd turn, which as I've stated I value at 3TG.

We haven't come to an agreement on mallice, you've stated you'll come back with an offer, and this still seems to be a bone of contention between you and Tapper, and I don't recall any consensus, you've said that you don't want me to move to the beta with, and I've said I'd consider moving to mallice instead, which I wouldn't be able to do with your sftt.

So from my perspective your sftt is costing me 12tg, and I have no guarantee that I'll even be able to hold onto this until the end of the game.

If you want TG we can come to a deal sure, I'll pay 3tg for your trade PN and a promise to refresh.

If you want to sell your sftt and me to delay construction you need to come back with a better offer.

[Tattersail_]

Sorry guys I have to consider things. I've about 10 scenarios running through my head right now and I'm trying to decide best course of action.

[Tattersail_]

Okay IH so you are offering me 3 TG now for my trade PN and a promise of refresh?

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 19 February 2019 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay IH so you are offering me 3 TG now for my trade PN and a promise of refresh?

If you want to do that deal then yes we can.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 19 February 2019 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay IH so you are offering me 3 TG now for my trade PN and a promise of refresh?

Make sure you insist no pillage on this trade too Tatts.

[Gnaw]

Tattersail_, on 19 February 2019 - 11:42 PM, said:

Sorry guys I have to consider things. I've about 10 scenarios running through my head right now and I'm trying to decide best course of action.

The only scenario you’d better be thinking about is building some units on Arnor. Otherwise D’rek can and probably will take it. She has gravdrive so she could have s carrier, a dread, and 2 infantry there on her first move.

[Imperial Historian]

Imperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

Also also, I have this action card available:

AN | Signal Jamming | Play as an Action | Choose a non-home system that contains or is adjacent to one of your ships. Place a command token from another player's reinforcements in that system.

I am willing to sell it or be paid to play it.

Tatts you seem to be the most likely person to pay me to use it on Bereg which would stop d'rek building in bereg.

D'rek I'd offer to sell it to you to, but it can't be played on a homeworld.

Otherwise anyone else have an interest in buying it? I value this card at 1ct, as it's a stall so 3 tg or equivalent?

I'm still shocked tatts hasn't bitten my hand off to get me to play this on bereg, stopping d'rek building on bereg and saving his carrier. Pretty high chance to take bereg and lirta too.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 19 February 2019 - 08:03 PM, said:

I'd do a straight swap of your sftt for not blocking the wormhole, playing construction 2nd turn (as I have to burn an action card to do that) and no pillaging this round.

If you throw in 2 TG on this deal with no pillaging then I'd be up for this? In fact you can even play construction when you'd like to.

What do you say?

No blocking the wormhole, no pillaging and 2 TG for my SftT

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 20 February 2019 - 08:38 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

Also also, I have this action card available:

AN | Signal Jamming | Play as an Action | Choose a non-home system that contains or is adjacent to one of your ships. Place a command token from another player's reinforcements in that system.

I am willing to sell it or be paid to play it.

Tatts you seem to be the most likely person to pay me to use it on Bereg which would stop d'rek building in bereg.

D'rek I'd offer to sell it to you to, but it can't be played on a homeworld.

Otherwise anyone else have an interest in buying it? I value this card at 1ct, as it's a stall so 3 tg or equivalent?

I'm still shocked tatts hasn't bitten my hand off to get me to play this on bereg, stopping d'rek building on bereg and saving his carrier. Pretty high chance to take bereg and lirta too.

Look I don't know what D'rek has planned but if she wants she can do me some damage. I thinking taking back Jord should be my number 1 priority because if I leave the carrier and go for Arnor Lor then her next move would be carrier, dread into Resculon/Corneeq. If I take the carrier and my home world back then yes she can destroy my space docks but that would be with only 1 dread as technology comes after that, if that happens I can destroy that dread and have ships in the system. I can use construction secondary to re-build space docks on Jord. Maybe if I am lucky even logistics secondary to build ships there too.

If I do it any other way then there are more and more problems. This action card would cost me too much right now. I'd like it but if I used it then she could take arnor lor just as easily.

I don't see a play in which I will have ships in Bereg to use that action card.

[Imperial Historian]

You are misunderstanding, I was offering the option to play that card for you on my first turn and stop d'rek moving into bereg, you don't have to play it yourself, with the added benefit of delaying construction a turn. I know you probably wouldn't be able to pay for it with TG, or use it yourself but you have PNs.

2TG for your sftt, and no blocking the wormhole I will accept. I will not pillage this trade.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 20 February 2019 - 08:55 AM, said:

You are misunderstanding, I was offering the option to play that card for you on my first turn and stop d'rek moving into bereg, you don't have to play it yourself, with the added benefit of delaying construction a turn. I know you probably wouldn't be able to pay for it with TG, or use it yourself but you have PNs.

2TG for your sftt, and no blocking the wormhole I will accept. I will not pillage this trade.

Okay that's a deal.

In terms of Bereg, I have nothing to offer you to do that right now.

If D'rek attacks Arnor/Lor on her first turn then I'd pay you to use that action card. If she doesn't then i'll move my ships from Bereg back towards my territory through the rift.

Hopefully I can negotiate some sort of peace with the Universities as we Sol are all for the education.

[Morgoth]

Tattersail_, on 20 February 2019 - 09:05 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 20 February 2019 - 08:55 AM, said:

You are misunderstanding, I was offering the option to play that card for you on my first turn and stop d'rek moving into bereg, you don't have to play it yourself, with the added benefit of delaying construction a turn. I know you probably wouldn't be able to pay for it with TG, or use it yourself but you have PNs.

2TG for your sftt, and no blocking the wormhole I will accept. I will not pillage this trade.

Okay that's a deal.

In terms of Bereg, I have nothing to offer you to do that right now.

If D'rek attacks Arnor/Lor on her first turn then I'd pay you to use that action card. If she doesn't then i'll move my ships from Bereg back towards my territory through the rift.

Hopefully I can negotiate some sort of peace with the Universities as we Sol are all for the education.

Why would you need to negotiate anything? You are Sol. You are all but impossible to dislodge from a planet if you decide to hold it.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 20 February 2019 - 09:09 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 20 February 2019 - 09:05 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 20 February 2019 - 08:55 AM, said:

You are misunderstanding, I was offering the option to play that card for you on my first turn and stop d'rek moving into bereg, you don't have to play it yourself, with the added benefit of delaying construction a turn. I know you probably wouldn't be able to pay for it with TG, or use it yourself but you have PNs.

2TG for your sftt, and no blocking the wormhole I will accept. I will not pillage this trade.

Okay that's a deal.

In terms of Bereg, I have nothing to offer you to do that right now.

If D'rek attacks Arnor/Lor on her first turn then I'd pay you to use that action card. If she doesn't then i'll move my ships from Bereg back towards my territory through the rift.

Hopefully I can negotiate some sort of peace with the Universities as we Sol are all for the education.

Why would you need to negotiate anything? You are Sol. You are all but impossible to dislodge from a planet if you decide to hold it.

I know I can be aggressive but that'd affect my VP gathering and chances of winning. No point in me attacking her if it does not gain me anything.