[Galactic Council]

Itwæs Nom, on 18 February 2019 - 10:36 PM, said:

really sorry for the wait, working on it

can I trade stuff after I've passed if the trade happens on someone else alive's turn?

Yes, you can still trade after passing.

[Imperial Historian]

Itwæs Nom, on 18 February 2019 - 10:36 PM, said:

really sorry for the wait, working on it

can I trade stuff after I've passed if the trade happens on someone else alive's turn?

Yep as long as you are neighbours.

[Gnaw]

You're taking Diplomacy I assume?


Or not...

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 18 February 2019 - 11:09 PM

[Tattersail_]

Fuck. Nom! Thought you were leaving that to Morgoth and take Diplomacy. Twelve before your go can we talk?

[Gnaw]

Gnaw, on 18 February 2019 - 10:54 PM, said:

You're taking Diplomacy I assume?


Or not...

Turn 1: build
Turn 2: Leadership
Turn 3: pass

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 18 February 2019 - 11:36 PM, said:

Fuck. Nom! Thought you were leaving that to Morgoth and take Diplomacy. Twelve before your go can we talk?

sure. About what?

[Morgoth]

yeah, that surprised me a great deal. Well shit.

[Gnaw]

Morgoth, on 19 February 2019 - 06:41 AM, said:

yeah, that surprised me a great deal. Well shit.

I’m surprised. If you take Construction, you could have a dock/PDS on Rex after turn 2.

[Morgoth]

Gnaw, on 19 February 2019 - 06:43 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 19 February 2019 - 06:41 AM, said:

yeah, that surprised me a great deal. Well shit.

I'm surprised. If you take Construction, you could have a dock/PDS on Rex after turn 2.

I considered it, but I would be too stretched, with too few tokens. I'd rather not be that greedy.

[Tapper]

Gnaw, on 19 February 2019 - 12:01 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 18 February 2019 - 10:54 PM, said:

You're taking Diplomacy I assume?


Or not...

Turn 1: build
Turn 2: Leadership
Turn 3: pass

Or: turn 1 build
secondary of Construction: dock on Vefut
Secondary of Diplomacy: refresh Vefut, Nestphar
Turn 2; Leadership
Turn 3: build on Vefut

[Morgoth]

Tapper, on 19 February 2019 - 06:53 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 19 February 2019 - 12:01 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 18 February 2019 - 10:54 PM, said:

You're taking Diplomacy I assume?


Or not...

Turn 1: build
Turn 2: Leadership
Turn 3: pass

Or: turn 1 build
secondary of Construction: dock on Vefut
Secondary of Diplomacy: refresh Vefut, Nestphar
Turn 2; Leadership
Turn 3: build on Vefut

He couldn't build on Vefut, the secondary to construction activates the system.

[Imperial Historian]

Well didn't expect that. Sorry tatts but I really don't think you need construction anyway.

[Tattersail_]

Twelve the point is moot now, pick whatever you want. I had an inkling IH was going to pick Construction with his earlier interest in our trade. No big deal.

[Tattersail_]

Remaining strategy cards and remaining people seems obvious now.

Twelve - Logistics
Blend - Trade
Tatts - Diplomacy
D'rek - Imperial
Gnaw - Warfare

Unless Blend wants to stop D'rek scoring with Imperial.

[Imperial Historian]

I assumed nom was going to take trade again, and charge for free refreshes, leaving leadership for morgoth and I'd get politics. I'd have considered leaving it for you if I thought you really needed it, but since you already have a space dock now I don't think it was going to be a big deal for you.

[Morgoth]

I honestly don't understand the Leadership choice, but I haven't paid that much attention to Nom's corner of the galaxy. Oh well, at least I get some action cards too.

[Tattersail_]

Too big a reply to post from mobile so was going to wait until I got to a computer. This is what I recall but was unsure without going back to look at what was said. I wanted to discuss Mallice with you as if you really wanted it I was going to let you have it for a concession and I had an eye on Silvano instead. That planet would be quite good for me gaining Hyper Metabolism this round. I weighed the pro's and con's and it was more likely that it'd be taken from me before Technology was played. However, if you'd have come to me with something then I may have changed my mind. Anyway, what I was thinking after our short and brief conversation was that you don't mind me having Mallice as long as I protect it, and not relinquish it. Which to be fair is what i'd want to do with any of my planets.

Tattersail_, on 12 February 2019 - 10:09 PM, said:

Tapper, on 12 February 2019 - 09:42 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 12 February 2019 - 08:25 PM, said:

At Tapper would you like to come to a deal regarding Mallice? I go before you so can land troops there first but I'm just wondering what you have in mind before doing anything concrete.

Settle, fortify and ultimately shoot PDS II at anything that moves on a wormhole hex while reaping a CT a turn from it.

I am not going to start a war over Mallice with you over it, though. But if you take it, as your neighbour in Lodor I do expect you to protect not only the planet but also its airspace.

I see what you are saying. You want me to have a ship in there most of the time. I haven't thought that far ahead but I won't want to relinquish the planet any time soon.

If you had offered anything to have it then I may have considered it as there was another option I was contemplating but it was too risky without further boons.

Now as to the underlined, most of the time is not all of the time. There may be times where I have to move ships in and out, to refortify or move infantry/fighters. I have to move those ships to re-take my homeworld. However that leaves MY planet undefended. Someone like Gnaw/Blend/IH/Yourself could move ships in and take it from me. This is a high probability, I won't like it but they may do it. IH says he just wants to park a ship in there and that is a friendly way of doing things without coming in to conflict with me, he says he won't invade. That is a good deal. I keep my system. He gains extra pillaging. You get security from people passing through into Lodor. That's the crux, I assumed the ship in the system would mean no one could pass through into Lodor without stopping in Mallice first. I thought that is what you wanted. I don't intend to let IH stay there and I have said as much to him.

Tapper, on 18 February 2019 - 06:51 PM, said:

And here you said to me you would NOT let other players park ships on Mallice.

I have no choice but to the letter of what we discussed this was not included. I keep my planet and I will defend it when the time comes.

Tapper, on 18 February 2019 - 08:23 PM, said:

And anyway Tatts, if "I did not see X coming, so I will just go back on this thing Y I agreed on with player Z" is a valid excuse, don't expect others to want to deal with you for anything except short term deals or deals where you pay upfront.

Now understandable. This game includes deals in the rules. Binding and non binding deals. I hope I have never broken a binding deal. That first game that IH won we had a binding deal that stuck. Other games non binding deals may have been scrapped due to hostility or some other reason, I cannot think. I can think of a deal Khell and I had that he broke and destroyed my game. I even gave him TG's to do it. Not knowingly, but trustingly.

Between you and myself we have had a good understanding and amicable relationship in every game so far to my understanding. That hasn't changed here or is going to. My negotiation with IH was not instigated by myself, it was by him.

[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth, on 19 February 2019 - 09:22 AM, said:

I honestly don't understand the Leadership choice, but I haven't paid that much attention to Nom's corner of the galaxy. Oh well, at least I get some action cards too.

It lets him potentially score a VP and build up his fleet size limit to the point where his fleet will be big enough that even blends war sun will struggle. Makes sense now I think about it.

[Morgoth]

Imperial Historian, on 19 February 2019 - 10:03 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 19 February 2019 - 09:22 AM, said:

I honestly don't understand the Leadership choice, but I haven't paid that much attention to Nom's corner of the galaxy. Oh well, at least I get some action cards too.

It lets him potentially score a VP and build up his fleet size limit to the point where his fleet will be big enough that even blends war sun will struggle. Makes sense now I think about it.

Ah, yeah that seems reasonable. Should have considered that.

[Imperial Historian]

Is the map updated? The one I'm looking at on the front page seems to be missing gnaws latest build and gnaws cruiser in quann?