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#1261 User is offline   twelve 

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Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:03 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

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View PostImperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

Also I wanted to move my cruiser to the beta wormhole so I can offer twelve and gnaw my protection and bring them into the mentak trade league.

I can see that this might be a problem for you though, I wanted to do it as early as possible, I've given you the votes you needed on vefut 2 and not got much out of it, I don't want to get in your way buy I need to get resources myself.

Any suggestions? I have an interest in mallice as it would let me do the same thing?


Before D'rek took my homeworld my plan for this round was to pull back some ships and build up my infantry/fighters. I was going to return to the space surrounding my systems, in a way I will be doing that. I have no problems with you borrowing the beta wormhole this round but my ships have to move through it. Ships from Mallice into my HS, ships from Ensapta into the Nebula or back to Arnor. So plonking a ship there would require you not to move into B wormhole until turn 3. If you are thinking of getting trade so that no one trades before you do this then that'd be cool. Otherwise what would be your suggestion? Either way that wormhole will be a mode for me to be able to move. It seems that you may have a Wormhole SO? Realistically how many rounds will it take for you to complete that?

I'd agree to let you park a ship in there for later this round and the next but after that I'd be wanting you to move it. Or I may not, it depends how the game develops.


I want to park a ship at the wormhole permanently so I am neighbouring gnaw, there is no way that I'm going to stall that move until turn 3.

Since you are clearing out of mallice anyway you have no objection to me parking a ship in it's skies for the rest of the game?

Yeah but it also blocks me if Tatts can't get out of my way. And there is no guarantee Gnaw ends up with the other side of the beta wormhole.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:04 PM

If I have a ship in the air over mallice I do not need a ship in the beta wormhole.

I can't realistically dislodge your infantry so yes I wouldn't invade this turn.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:06 PM

View Posttwelve, on 18 February 2019 - 04:03 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 18 February 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

Also I wanted to move my cruiser to the beta wormhole so I can offer twelve and gnaw my protection and bring them into the mentak trade league.

I can see that this might be a problem for you though, I wanted to do it as early as possible, I've given you the votes you needed on vefut 2 and not got much out of it, I don't want to get in your way buy I need to get resources myself.

Any suggestions? I have an interest in mallice as it would let me do the same thing?


Before D'rek took my homeworld my plan for this round was to pull back some ships and build up my infantry/fighters. I was going to return to the space surrounding my systems, in a way I will be doing that. I have no problems with you borrowing the beta wormhole this round but my ships have to move through it. Ships from Mallice into my HS, ships from Ensapta into the Nebula or back to Arnor. So plonking a ship there would require you not to move into B wormhole until turn 3. If you are thinking of getting trade so that no one trades before you do this then that'd be cool. Otherwise what would be your suggestion? Either way that wormhole will be a mode for me to be able to move. It seems that you may have a Wormhole SO? Realistically how many rounds will it take for you to complete that?

I'd agree to let you park a ship in there for later this round and the next but after that I'd be wanting you to move it. Or I may not, it depends how the game develops.


I want to park a ship at the wormhole permanently so I am neighbouring gnaw, there is no way that I'm going to stall that move until turn 3.

Since you are clearing out of mallice anyway you have no objection to me parking a ship in it's skies for the rest of the game?

Yeah but it also blocks me if Tatts can't get out of my way. And there is no guarantee Gnaw ends up with the other side of the beta wormhole.


He won't be fighting me for it, I'm perfectly happy letting him be a buffer between the Mentak and I.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:19 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 04:04 PM, said:

If I have a ship in the air over mallice I do not need a ship in the beta wormhole.

I can't realistically dislodge your infantry so yes I wouldn't invade this turn.


There you go, I'll be moving the ships from Mallice turn 1. So move in and cover the air space.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:26 PM

Does Nom know it'd his turn?
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:33 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 18 February 2019 - 11:28 AM, said:

Agenda votes have now been posted, by the way. Tatts, let me know where you want the space dock. Gnaw, let me know what tech you want.

The next phase will be delayed a little as I work through discarding a random AC from each of you.


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Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:35 PM

View PostGnaw, on 18 February 2019 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 18 February 2019 - 11:28 AM, said:

Agenda votes have now been posted, by the way. Tatts, let me know where you want the space dock. Gnaw, let me know what tech you want.

The next phase will be delayed a little as I work through discarding a random AC from each of you.


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and Mentak Cruiser 2's? Dangerous combo :D
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 06:51 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 18 February 2019 - 04:19 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 04:04 PM, said:

If I have a ship in the air over mallice I do not need a ship in the beta wormhole.

I can't realistically dislodge your infantry so yes I wouldn't invade this turn.


There you go, I'll be moving the ships from Mallice turn 1. So move in and cover the air space.

And here you said to me you would NOT let other players park ships on Mallice.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 07:39 PM

View PostTapper, on 18 February 2019 - 06:51 PM, said:

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View PostImperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 04:04 PM, said:

If I have a ship in the air over mallice I do not need a ship in the beta wormhole.

I can't realistically dislodge your infantry so yes I wouldn't invade this turn.


There you go, I'll be moving the ships from Mallice turn 1. So move in and cover the air space.

And here you said to me you would NOT let other players park ships on Mallice.


I did say that. I also did not foresee D'rek attacking me and forcing me back the other way. I have to move that ship so the system will be vacant. IH could take it by force or come to an agreement with me where by there'll be a ship in there blockading the wormhole from any explorers. I'm not relinquishing my hold of a system and if there's treachery involved then I'll not stand for that either.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 08:07 PM

Yeah. I want your ships there, not IH's. Maybe especially not IH's.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 08:14 PM

Friendly Hacan, fear not the mentak will stick to our word and ensure your safety from the dangerous galaxy for our agreed upon tax.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 08:23 PM

And anyway Tatts, if "I did not see X coming, so I will just go back on this thing Y I agreed on with player Z" is a valid excuse, don't expect others to want to deal with you for anything except short term deals or deals where you pay upfront.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 08:31 PM

:D
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 08:38 PM

View PostTapper, on 18 February 2019 - 08:23 PM, said:

And anyway Tatts, if "I did not see X coming, so I will just go back on this thing Y I agreed on with player Z" is a valid excuse, don't expect others to want to deal with you for anything except short term deals or deals where you pay upfront.


Maybe he learned it from Twelve?

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Posted 18 February 2019 - 08:58 PM

now now, children. Let there be no fighting here, in His house. Let us all agree that Tapper and tatts are both awful.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 09:07 PM

View PostGnaw, on 18 February 2019 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 18 February 2019 - 08:23 PM, said:

And anyway Tatts, if "I did not see X coming, so I will just go back on this thing Y I agreed on with player Z" is a valid excuse, don't expect others to want to deal with you for anything except short term deals or deals where you pay upfront.


Maybe he learned it from Twelve?

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Excuse me?! That is highly uncalled for and blatantly false.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 09:46 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 08:14 PM, said:

Friendly Hacan, fear not the mentak will stick to our word and ensure your safety from the dangerous galaxy for our agreed upon tax.


We would appreciate you entering a provisional stating that whenever you have the opportunity to pillage us, you take a commodity if possible.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 09:47 PM

View Posttwelve, on 18 February 2019 - 09:07 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 18 February 2019 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on 18 February 2019 - 08:23 PM, said:

And anyway Tatts, if "I did not see X coming, so I will just go back on this thing Y I agreed on with player Z" is a valid excuse, don't expect others to want to deal with you for anything except short term deals or deals where you pay upfront.


Maybe he learned it from Twelve?

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Excuse me?! That is highly uncalled for and blatantly false.


Excuse me? You retcon the terms of deals at least once per game.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 10:12 PM

View PostGnaw, on 18 February 2019 - 09:46 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 18 February 2019 - 08:14 PM, said:

Friendly Hacan, fear not the mentak will stick to our word and ensure your safety from the dangerous galaxy for our agreed upon tax.


We would appreciate you entering a provisional stating that whenever you have the opportunity to pillage us, you take a commodity if possible.


Of course the Mentak are kind and reasonable taxation specialists.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 10:36 PM

really sorry for the wait, working on it

can I trade stuff after I've passed if the trade happens on someone else alive's turn?
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