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#2641 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 08:50 AM

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 August 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

So wait... Tatts has been spending all this time and effort to give Gnaw twelve's homeworld?

I was puzzled as to what Gnaw got out of this deal, now I have no idea what tatts got out of it.


I get Twelve's HW and Gnaw gets Arinam/Meer and Everra.

It had to work out this way as the original plan was for Gnaw to weaken Twelve and I attack him after but with Twelve passing so early this round I decided to go for an early attack this round.

With the unexpected action card I could have attack Twelve twice next round but with Gnaw moving the destroyer into that empty space hex I couldn't get two armies within range.

I'd have had destroyers and cruisers in that hex ready to go into Twelve's HW first. Then my dreads and carrier to go in after Gnaw to clean up and take the HW.

With Twelve passing and having a big opportunity to build a flagship next round with increased fleet size it would have been nearly impossible to take the hex off him even with 3 attacks.

His flagship would be taking over 6 shots at a time. Now he only has 3 dread's and a dream before Gnaw attacks him. It was most efficient way.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 08:50 AM

Twelve says he has an action card that could help him but it'd have to be during Status or Strategy or during space combat.


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BI | Skilled Retreat | Play at the start of a space combat round | At the start of a combat round: Move all of your ships from the active system into an adjacent system that does not contain another player's ships; the space combat ends in a draw. Then, place a command token from your reinforcements in that system.



This would buy him some time but not much.


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BY | Public Disgrace | Play during the Strategy Phase | When another player chooses a strategy card: That player must choose a different strategy Cards instead, if able.



He could play this against me or Gnaw but we'd just switch our selection to keep high initiative.


I don't see any others that could be worrying.


How about you Gnaw? Have you had a look through?
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 09:32 AM

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 09:53 AM

It's your turn Tatts.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 09:59 AM

View PostMorgoth, on 24 August 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

It's your turn Tatts.


Yep, I know. Just need to speak to Gnaw before confirming my build/move.

I can score the trade routes VP or just rebuild army.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 10:01 AM

View PostTattersail_, on 24 August 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 August 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

It's your turn Tatts.


Yep, I know. Just need to speak to Gnaw before confirming my build/move.

I can score the trade routes VP or just rebuild army.


Well, one is the game's objective...
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 10:04 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 24 August 2018 - 10:01 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 24 August 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 24 August 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

It's your turn Tatts.


Yep, I know. Just need to speak to Gnaw before confirming my build/move.

I can score the trade routes VP or just rebuild army.


Well, one is the game's objective...


I am aware. It's a marathon not a sprint :p
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 10:40 AM

Tatts do you want khell to take abyz fria? Because it seems like you are politely asking him to just take the high resource planets he needs ..
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 10:49 AM

We have an agreement but I am aware right now I look like easy pickings. Next round I'll have around 20 resources available to build with and my space docks now allow me to build 11 ships in my HW.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 01:51 PM

Alright, I'd really appreciate it if you all posted a proper Status phase post - with all the details in it so we can confirm where everyone is at!

We played it fast and loose with the posts last round, I'd like to get back into the habit of having proper posts as much as possible!
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:06 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 24 August 2018 - 06:57 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 24 August 2018 - 06:48 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 24 August 2018 - 06:44 AM, said:

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View PostTattersail_, on 24 August 2018 - 06:11 AM, said:

Gnaw you should win the fight hands down now, as long as you move in first turn. Twelve game will be over.

Gee thanks. Enjoyed playing this game with you too



If you give me your racial PN, I will try, if available, to pick up a card with higher initiative than Gnaw's, and then swap it with you so you can go before him.



Oh wait, he's taking Leadership isn't he. Better hope for an awesome agenda then I guess.

I have an action card I can play that might help but if either of them have a sabotage I'm screwed.


If they do, maybe someone will sabotage their sabotage. Is that allowed?

Nope. I'm feeling hopeful though. 2 have been played already so the odds either of them have one are pretty low.


Could I have your racial PN anyway? Not saying I'll use it (especially if it's worse for you if I do), but it potentially gives another option.

Possibly but will probably want something for it. I'll let you know sometime today. I'll need to know if my last ditch survival plan works or not.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:08 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 August 2018 - 07:30 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 24 August 2018 - 06:48 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 24 August 2018 - 06:44 AM, said:

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View PostTattersail_, on 24 August 2018 - 06:11 AM, said:

Gnaw you should win the fight hands down now, as long as you move in first turn. Twelve game will be over.

Gee thanks. Enjoyed playing this game with you too



If you give me your racial PN, I will try, if available, to pick up a card with higher initiative than Gnaw's, and then swap it with you so you can go before him.



Oh wait, he's taking Leadership isn't he. Better hope for an awesome agenda then I guess.

I have an action card I can play that might help but if either of them have a sabotage I'm screwed.


If they do, maybe someone will sabotage their sabotage. Is that allowed?

Nope. I'm feeling hopeful though. 2 have been played already so the odds either of them have one are pretty low.


I think gnaws racial ability is effectively a sabotage. In fact I think he's the only one able to sabotage a sabotage.

Except he hasn't researched it yet and won't before I am going to play my card.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:14 PM

@Khell - If you want extra commodities would you trade your trade PN with me instead of Twelve to continue our non aggression towards one another and promise to refresh?
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:18 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 24 August 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 24 August 2018 - 06:19 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 24 August 2018 - 06:11 AM, said:

Gnaw you should win the fight hands down now, as long as you move in first turn. Twelve game will be over.

Gee thanks. Enjoyed playing this game with you too


I do enjoy playing with you. I'm thinking of it this way, it's been so hard to take one hex off you. Like very, very hard. Imagine letting you get to a point were you have Mecatol Rex and have built up your fleet. You'd be impossible to kick out.

Honestly you should have increased your fleet capacity by one and built your flagship this round. That flagship would've saved you so much.

I was trying to make a point by not. I have 2 options to gain points. I grabbed the tokens to score points hoping you two would give up this folly and focus on what is important in this game, points. Clearly either my move was too subtle or points just arent important to you. And don't say you are prepping for the home world point option because 1 there is no guarantees that even will be an option and 2 you could have way more easily taken D'reks anytime in the last 3 rounds. This assault feels personal, especially on Gnaws part.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:20 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 24 August 2018 - 08:46 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 August 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

So wait... Tatts has been spending all this time and effort to give Gnaw twelve's homeworld?

I was puzzled as to what Gnaw got out of this deal, now I have no idea what tatts got out of it.


It's still a mystery to me.

And me.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:23 PM

View Posttwelve, on 24 August 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 24 August 2018 - 08:34 AM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 24 August 2018 - 06:19 AM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 24 August 2018 - 06:11 AM, said:

Gnaw you should win the fight hands down now, as long as you move in first turn. Twelve game will be over.

Gee thanks. Enjoyed playing this game with you too


I do enjoy playing with you. I'm thinking of it this way, it's been so hard to take one hex off you. Like very, very hard. Imagine letting you get to a point were you have Mecatol Rex and have built up your fleet. You'd be impossible to kick out.

Honestly you should have increased your fleet capacity by one and built your flagship this round. That flagship would've saved you so much.

I was trying to make a point by not. I have 2 options to gain points. I grabbed the tokens to score points hoping you two would give up this folly and focus on what is important in this game, points. Clearly either my move was too subtle or points just arent important to you. And don't say you are prepping for the home world point option because 1 there is no guarantees that even will be an option and 2 you could have way more easily taken D'reks anytime in the last 3 rounds. This assault feels personal, especially on Gnaws part.



It's not personal from my PoV, whoever held that spot was at a huge disadvantage from the start.

I guess if those extra hexes were available then this wouldn't have happened but both you and Tapper had bad starting positions. He negotiated with D'rek and Khell.

Khell could have took that system which Tapper talked him out of and Tapper would've been in a bad spot too.

I blame the missing hexes, you'd have liked 3 ways out of your HW, whereas I am sure Tapper now likes his choke point but didn't at the start.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:24 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 24 August 2018 - 10:40 AM, said:

Tatts do you want khell to take abyz fria? Because it seems like you are politely asking him to just take the high resource planets he needs ..

I thought for sure you were going to do it yourself last round. You've had 2 opportunities this game to help yourself while also helping me and you passed them up. Been very disappointed in that aspect of your game play but you have garnered sftt cards and once again you are poised to be able to win this gane. Very well done sir.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:27 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 24 August 2018 - 02:14 PM, said:

@Khell - If you want extra commodities would you trade your trade PN with me instead of Twelve to continue our non aggression towards one another and promise to refresh?

Fuck off! You are worried I'll survive your attacks and want me unable to build anything.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:29 PM

Just so it's clear - for the Seeds of an Empire Agenda, if the outcome is FOR, all players with the highest points will receive an additional VP. Same with against if there is more than one player with the lowest VP after Status Phase.
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Posted 24 August 2018 - 02:50 PM

I'm going to be playing my diplomacy rider most likely on seeds of an empire but I need to know everyone's points at the end of the status phase and/or if Gnaw or Tatts sabotage this card before I do my own status post.
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