[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I'm waiting for a response from D'rek before I make a move.

Well, I have a fleet that I cant do much with now that it turns out I can't bring gfs with me when I retreat. I'd be amendable to suggestions as to what I'll use it for.

Err I'm pretty sure you can bring ground forces with you when you retreat. This thread has an official ruling from the designer in it.

https://boardgamegee...nd-transporting

Probably too late now though.

[Khellendros]

Tapper, on 21 August 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Initially I thought it would have counted but a Google suggests it doesn't:
https://boardgamegee...d-subdue-galaxy

I think it depends on the exact wording of the card. Think this is a mod call.

Thanks!

The Glossary doesn't define it on the planet entry, but it does count Home Systems as a different category, and the text I guess refers to that. Since Home Systems have a different back and never a planetary trait, I guess the 'no' is logical.
And that will force me into taking a risk other than pass. Sorry, Khell.

I do not accept your entirely insincere apology. If you were actually sorry then you'd try to invade utterly defenceless Centauri instead of my planet out of the two.

[Morgoth]

well then! Blend, I want my gf in nevant then if you please as stated in my battle instructions.

Khell really did a number on me moving into the Nebula, but at least everything isn't lost.

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I'm waiting for a response from D'rek before I make a move.

Well, I have a fleet that I cant do much with now that it turns out I can't bring gfs with me when I retreat. I'd be amendable to suggestions as to what I'll use it for.

If Tapper's invasion of my poor planet succeeds, then go annoy him.

[Khellendros]

Morgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

well then! Blend, I want my gf in nevant then if you please as stated in my battle instructions.

Khell really did a number on me moving into the Nebula, but at least everything isn't lost.

I did a number on you with that and with letting D'rek's dreads go, and screwed myself out of MR in the process. So great play all round.

[Morgoth]

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

well then! Blend, I want my gf in nevant then if you please as stated in my battle instructions.

Khell really did a number on me moving into the Nebula, but at least everything isn't lost.

I did a number on you with that and with letting D'rek's dreads go, and screwed myself out of MR in the process. So great play all round.

At least no one can say that you're predictable!

[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 12:12 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

well then! Blend, I want my gf in nevant then if you please as stated in my battle instructions.

Khell really did a number on me moving into the Nebula, but at least everything isn't lost.

I did a number on you with that and with letting D'rek's dreads go, and screwed myself out of MR in the process. So great play all round.

At least no one can say that you're predictable!

This is definitely true!

[Morgoth]

I thought I had that attack in the bag. The way I figured D'rek was going to lose those two dreads in Mecatol. And if she weren't it wouldn't really matter anyway as I had a strong chance of winning the ground battle (as long as I got a PDS in time) and I was going to use my retreat card to move my fleet to the Nebula anyway. There I could expand my fleet from round to round with no real risk. Who would want to attack me there, with my defensive bonus, and the movement restrictions afterwards? So I figured I was pretty safe. I would probably have to move my fleet from Anor Lor, but I'd keep at least one planet and my fleet would border Mecatol Rex and give me all the flexibility I wanted.

Instead D'rek got to keep her dreads, I lost the battle Lor despite my hand of action cards + the defence grid and the pds, and I didn't get to escape into the safety of the nebula.

Risk isn't really my friend in these games.

[Tapper]

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Tapper, on 21 August 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Initially I thought it would have counted but a Google suggests it doesn't:
https://boardgamegee...d-subdue-galaxy

I think it depends on the exact wording of the card. Think this is a mod call.

Thanks!

The Glossary doesn't define it on the planet entry, but it does count Home Systems as a different category, and the text I guess refers to that. Since Home Systems have a different back and never a planetary trait, I guess the 'no' is logical.
And that will force me into taking a risk other than pass. Sorry, Khell.

I do not accept your entirely insincere apology. If you were actually sorry then you'd try to invade utterly defenceless Centauri instead of my planet out of the two.

Utterly defenseless in and by itself, but surrounded by Nom's torpedo-shooting cruisers.

[Khellendros]

Tapper, on 21 August 2018 - 12:53 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Tapper, on 21 August 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Initially I thought it would have counted but a Google suggests it doesn't:
https://boardgamegee...d-subdue-galaxy

I think it depends on the exact wording of the card. Think this is a mod call.

Thanks!

The Glossary doesn't define it on the planet entry, but it does count Home Systems as a different category, and the text I guess refers to that. Since Home Systems have a different back and never a planetary trait, I guess the 'no' is logical.
And that will force me into taking a risk other than pass. Sorry, Khell.

I do not accept your entirely insincere apology. If you were actually sorry then you'd try to invade utterly defenceless Centauri instead of my planet out of the two.

Utterly defenseless in and by itself, but surrounded by Nom's torpedo-shooting cruisers.

So? Apparently he feels Gral is his territory by right.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 21 August 2018 - 01:17 PM

[Morgoth]

And he doesn't seem to have much in the way of ground forces, or bombardment capabilities.

[D'rek]

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

Morgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I'm waiting for a response from D'rek before I make a move.

Well, I have a fleet that I cant do much with now that it turns out I can't bring gfs with me when I retreat. I'd be amendable to suggestions as to what I'll use it for.

Err I'm pretty sure you can bring ground forces with you when you retreat. This thread has an official ruling from the designer in it.

https://boardgamegee...nd-transporting

Probably too late now though.

I thought it was that you could Skilled Retreat with ground forces that are already in space, but not on planets? Compared to the ordinary retreat where the same principle applies, but there's an added part of the declare retreat step where you can move ground forces from planets to space. Skilled retreat doesn't have a declare step so you never get the opportunity to move them up to space.

That was my take on it/how it was explained to me by someone. Mod can research and decide.

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 21 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so

I can't score it this round as khell still holds bereg, will probably score it next round.

How about we do a support for the throne swap, you leave tech for me and I'll clear out of the wormhole.

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

D, on 21 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so

I can't score it this round as khell still holds bereg, will probably score it next round.

How about we do a support for the throne swap, you leave tech for me and I'll clear out of the wormhole.

If I was D'rek I'd be asking for more than that. You don't clear out and she can wipe you out next round if she wanted.

[Tapper]

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

Tapper, on 21 August 2018 - 12:53 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Tapper, on 21 August 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Initially I thought it would have counted but a Google suggests it doesn't:
https://boardgamegee...d-subdue-galaxy

I think it depends on the exact wording of the card. Think this is a mod call.

Thanks!

The Glossary doesn't define it on the planet entry, but it does count Home Systems as a different category, and the text I guess refers to that. Since Home Systems have a different back and never a planetary trait, I guess the 'no' is logical.
And that will force me into taking a risk other than pass. Sorry, Khell.

I do not accept your entirely insincere apology. If you were actually sorry then you'd try to invade utterly defenceless Centauri instead of my planet out of the two.

Utterly defenseless in and by itself, but surrounded by Nom's torpedo-shooting cruisers.

So? Apparently he feels Gral is his territory by right.

And he is welcome to it, after I score my VP.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

D, on 21 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so

I can't score it this round as khell still holds bereg, will probably score it next round.

How about we do a support for the throne swap, you leave tech for me and I'll clear out of the wormhole.

Pretty sure I would win in a straight-up fight between our fleets anyways, so I won't give any concessions. But if you make a deal with Tatts to leave via the wormhole in exchange for keeping Mansa for one more round, I will honour it as well.

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 02:25 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

D, on 21 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so

I can't score it this round as khell still holds bereg, will probably score it next round.

How about we do a support for the throne swap, you leave tech for me and I'll clear out of the wormhole.

If I was D'rek I'd be asking for more than that. You don't clear out and she can wipe you out next round if she wanted.

And I can wipe her damaged fleet out this turn if I wanted to.

[Khellendros]

Tapper, on 21 August 2018 - 02:30 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

Tapper, on 21 August 2018 - 12:53 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

Tapper, on 21 August 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

Initially I thought it would have counted but a Google suggests it doesn't:
https://boardgamegee...d-subdue-galaxy

I think it depends on the exact wording of the card. Think this is a mod call.

Thanks!

The Glossary doesn't define it on the planet entry, but it does count Home Systems as a different category, and the text I guess refers to that. Since Home Systems have a different back and never a planetary trait, I guess the 'no' is logical.
And that will force me into taking a risk other than pass. Sorry, Khell.

I do not accept your entirely insincere apology. If you were actually sorry then you'd try to invade utterly defenceless Centauri instead of my planet out of the two.

Utterly defenseless in and by itself, but surrounded by Nom's torpedo-shooting cruisers.

So? Apparently he feels Gral is his territory by right.

And he is welcome to it, after I score my VP.

Would he not equally be welcome to Centauri after you score your VP? Of course he would. And even though it would be easier for you to take, you hedge your bets about to what extent you piss off your neighbour (you also put a blocker ship in his space of course). Completely reasonable. As it is reasonable for me to refuse your phoned-in apology.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:38 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 02:25 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

D, on 21 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so

I can't score it this round as khell still holds bereg, will probably score it next round.

How about we do a support for the throne swap, you leave tech for me and I'll clear out of the wormhole.

If I was D'rek I'd be asking for more than that. You don't clear out and she can wipe you out next round if she wanted.

And I can wipe her damaged fleet out this turn if I wanted to.

That's the beauty of Morgoth retreating. It's not even damaged. And I get 3 PDS in range. Bring it on