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#2461 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 02:40 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:38 PM, said:

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View PostD, on 21 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business :p Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so :p


I can't score it this round as khell still holds bereg, will probably score it next round.

How about we do a support for the throne swap, you leave tech for me and I'll clear out of the wormhole.


If I was D'rek I'd be asking for more than that. You don't clear out and she can wipe you out next round if she wanted.


And I can wipe her damaged fleet out this turn if I wanted to.


Sure you can. And then I wipe out what remains of your fleet next round, so go for it.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 02:51 PM

View PostD, on 21 August 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business :p Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so :p


I can't score it this round as khell still holds bereg, will probably score it next round.

How about we do a support for the throne swap, you leave tech for me and I'll clear out of the wormhole.


Pretty sure I would win in a straight-up fight between our fleets anyways, so I won't give any concessions. But if you make a deal with Tatts to leave via the wormhole in exchange for keeping Mansa for one more round, I will honour it as well.


Ok fair enough I'll take that and deal with tatts. Not interested in sftt swap then?

What did you want to leave tech for me?
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 02:55 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:38 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 02:25 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business :p Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so :p


I can't score it this round as khell still holds bereg, will probably score it next round.

How about we do a support for the throne swap, you leave tech for me and I'll clear out of the wormhole.


If I was D'rek I'd be asking for more than that. You don't clear out and she can wipe you out next round if she wanted.


And I can wipe her damaged fleet out this turn if I wanted to.

Attack Tatts in Abya/Fritz. If your bombardments are successful you can take both of his planets and gain 2 hazardous that would gain you the PO.even if you only get 1 you gain the other PO where you hold 6 planets. Seems like a no brained to me.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 02:58 PM

View PostD, on 21 August 2018 - 01:51 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I'm waiting for a response from D'rek before I make a move.


Well, I have a fleet that I cant do much with now that it turns out I can't bring gfs with me when I retreat. I'd be amendable to suggestions as to what I'll use it for.


Err I'm pretty sure you can bring ground forces with you when you retreat. This thread has an official ruling from the designer in it.

https://boardgamegee...nd-transporting

Probably too late now though.


I thought it was that you could Skilled Retreat with ground forces that are already in space, but not on planets? Compared to the ordinary retreat where the same principle applies, but there's an added part of the declare retreat step where you can move ground forces from planets to space. Skilled retreat doesn't have a declare step so you never get the opportunity to move them up to space.

That was my take on it/how it was explained to me by someone. Mod can research and decide.


IH’s link seem to state otherwise though.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:00 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:51 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 August 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 August 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

@IH: I'm not plussed if you attack Tatts or not, or if you two make a deal, or whatever. That's your business :p Pretty sure I'm not even capable of retaking Mansa III this round so just score the hazardous planets VP this round and you're golden. East side of the map does seem to be getting all the activity, so of course I'd like you to move back through the wormhole. Since I can't retake Mansa anyway of course I promise to not do so :p


I can't score it this round as khell still holds bereg, will probably score it next round.

How about we do a support for the throne swap, you leave tech for me and I'll clear out of the wormhole.


Pretty sure I would win in a straight-up fight between our fleets anyways, so I won't give any concessions. But if you make a deal with Tatts to leave via the wormhole in exchange for keeping Mansa for one more round, I will honour it as well.


Ok fair enough I'll take that and deal with tatts. Not interested in sftt swap then?

What did you want to leave tech for me?


I dunno. I was hoping to get 2 TG somehow so I would achieve a PO this status phase... original plan had been to run one dread to Ensapta or something like that for 4 industrial planets but the order of turns and strategic card plays didn't work out for it.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:05 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 02:58 PM, said:

View PostD, on 21 August 2018 - 01:51 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 21 August 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I'm waiting for a response from D'rek before I make a move.


Well, I have a fleet that I cant do much with now that it turns out I can't bring gfs with me when I retreat. I'd be amendable to suggestions as to what I'll use it for.


Err I'm pretty sure you can bring ground forces with you when you retreat. This thread has an official ruling from the designer in it.

https://boardgamegee...nd-transporting

Probably too late now though.


I thought it was that you could Skilled Retreat with ground forces that are already in space, but not on planets? Compared to the ordinary retreat where the same principle applies, but there's an added part of the declare retreat step where you can move ground forces from planets to space. Skilled retreat doesn't have a declare step so you never get the opportunity to move them up to space.

That was my take on it/how it was explained to me by someone. Mod can research and decide.


IH’s link seem to state otherwise though.


Hmmm

And yet they didn't correct/explain it in the official living rules reference or errata (which have been updated since then), despite even the card itself clearly saying only "ships"...

I guess Blend will have to decide.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:07 PM

Hmmm if you give me your support for the throne, leave tech for me and give me one of your votes in a future vote of my choice, I'll give you 2tg and my support for the throne.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:12 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

Hmmm if you give me your support for the throne, leave tech for me and give me one of your votes in a future vote of my choice, I'll give you 2tg and my support for the throne.


Sure, let's do it.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:13 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

Hmmm if you give me your support for the throne, leave tech for me and give me one of your votes in a future vote of my choice, I'll give you 2tg and my support for the throne.



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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:14 PM

May I ask, IH, why you asked for one vote?
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:14 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

Hmmm if you give me your support for the throne, leave tech for me and give me one of your votes in a future vote of my choice, I'll give you 2tg and my support for the throne.



Give me three things and I'l give you two things.


Yeah, but I need it to keep up.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:16 PM

View PostD, on 21 August 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 21 August 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 03:07 PM, said:

Hmmm if you give me your support for the throne, leave tech for me and give me one of your votes in a future vote of my choice, I'll give you 2tg and my support for the throne.



Give me three things and I'l give you two things.


Yeah, but I need it to keep up.


Done, if anything an overly generous deal from me. I wanted one vote as I can then ensure d'rek doesn't vote against me if an important vote comes up.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:25 PM

@Tapper if you're really intending to move out next round then I will not hold your little expeditionary trip into my territory against you
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:30 PM

Ok so tatts still on for 2 TG for your sftt and leave your stuff alone? I'll be heading away from mansa 3 if so.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 03:30 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 21 August 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

Ok so tatts still on for 2 TG for your sftt and leave your stuff alone? I'll be heading away from mansa 3 if so.


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Posted 21 August 2018 - 04:22 PM

Apologies I've just realised i had not updated the on my last post so I'm one TG short.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 04:24 PM

Tatts I'll give you my trade PN instead for 1tg and your sftt and a promise to refresh if I get a free refresh.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 04:57 PM

IH that wasn't the deal. So trade pn for stff and I'll give you the 1 tg when I use your trade pn?
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 05:14 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 August 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

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View PostItwęs Nom, on 20 August 2018 - 09:25 PM, said:

@Gnaw: I'll pay you 2tg for the Cruiser to Dreadnought AC



Hmm. About 2TG and your trade PN?


4 tgs to make a 4tg dread from 2tg cruiser? The price difference between them is 2 tgs so I'm not paying more than that


Worth trying. Card for 2TG then.
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Posted 21 August 2018 - 05:18 PM

View PostGnaw, on 21 August 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 August 2018 - 09:17 AM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 21 August 2018 - 05:55 AM, said:

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View PostItwęs Nom, on 20 August 2018 - 09:25 PM, said:

@Gnaw: I'll pay you 2tg for the Cruiser to Dreadnought AC



Hmm. About 2TG and your trade PN?


4 tgs to make a 4tg dread from 2tg cruiser? The price difference between them is 2 tgs so I'm not paying more than that


Worth trying. Card for 2TG then.


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