[Itwæs Nom]

Morgoth said:

Itwasbliss- when we become neighbours i will offer you my support for the throne in return for yours. I hope it will be the start of a mutually beneficial friendship!

Indeed

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 15 July 2018 - 08:45 AM, said:

Because it is face-up on the table and cannot be traded anymore?

Actually, it isn't yet. He could still trade it to you (not right now, since you aren't neighbours, but in the agenda phase).

@GNAW your turn doesn't work. You can't use the TRADE CONVOYS PN until you put it into your play area via an action, and since you haven't done that yet you can't trade with Morgoth or BlissNom, therefore you can't afford what you did with the LEADERSHIP secondary.

Neither of the two turns you have posted should even have TRADE CONVOYS listed in your play area, yet. Not until you actually place the card into your play area via the necessary action. Until then, you can trade it to another player, but after it is placed in your play area you cannot.

Gnaw, on 15 July 2018 - 07:31 AM, said:

Secondaries:
Politics - none
Trade - free refresh (danke) +4C
3:3 with Morgoth and 1:1 with ItWasBliss -4C +4TG
Warfare: none
Leadership - exhaust both Archons for 4 influence and use 2TG == +2CT both strategic

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Strategic Action: Play Diplomacy card
Protect Daemon and refresh it
Peace Accords: gain control of Saudor

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CURRENT STATUS

Victory Points: 0

Strategy Card: DIPLOMACY
Command Pools: 2T | 3F | 4S
Goods: 0/4 C | 2 TG
Action Cards: 0
Promissory Notes: 4 Xxcha, 1 Hacan
Secret Objectives: 0 fulfilled | 1 unfulfilled

Planets:
+ Archon Ren (2/3)
+ Archon Tau (1/1)
+ Daemon (4/0)
+ Saudor (2/2)

Technologies:
+ Graviton Laser System -- You may exhaust this card before 1 or more of your units uses SPACE CANNON; hits produced by those units must be assigned to non-fighter ships if able.

TRADE CONVOYS (Hacan) | Action: Place this card faceup in your play area, you may negotiate transactions with players who are not your neighbor. If you activate a system that contains 1 or more of the Hacan player's units, return this card to the Hacan player.

[Tattersail_]

D'rek are we exchanging commodities? I assumed we were as it was agreed but it isn't in your post, ie offer commodities

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 15 July 2018 - 01:59 PM, said:

D'rek are we exchanging commodities? I assumed we were as it was agreed but it isn't in your post, ie offer commodities

You haven't refreshed yet, so we can't put it in my turn. After you refresh on your turn we can trade immediately.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 15 July 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 15 July 2018 - 01:59 PM, said:

D'rek are we exchanging commodities? I assumed we were as it was agreed but it isn't in your post, ie offer commodities

You haven't refreshed yet, so we can't put it in my turn. After you refresh on your turn we can trade immediately.

Yep, you have though so you can offer me a trade of 2:2 then on my turn I accept it.

As long as I know, I'll post my turn

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 15 July 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

D, on 15 July 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 15 July 2018 - 01:59 PM, said:

D'rek are we exchanging commodities? I assumed we were as it was agreed but it isn't in your post, ie offer commodities

You haven't refreshed yet, so we can't put it in my turn. After you refresh on your turn we can trade immediately.

Yep, you have though so you can offer me a trade of 2:2 then on my turn I accept it.

As long as I know, I'll post my turn

I accept your offer (thought we'd already established that?).

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 15 July 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

D, on 15 July 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 15 July 2018 - 01:59 PM, said:

D'rek are we exchanging commodities? I assumed we were as it was agreed but it isn't in your post, ie offer commodities

You haven't refreshed yet, so we can't put it in my turn. After you refresh on your turn we can trade immediately.

Yep, you have though so you can offer me a trade of 2:2 then on my turn I accept it.

As long as I know, I'll post my turn

Tatts you might want to look at your turn again you have an unused influence planet, no need to spend trade goods!

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 15 July 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 15 July 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

D, on 15 July 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 15 July 2018 - 01:59 PM, said:

D'rek are we exchanging commodities? I assumed we were as it was agreed but it isn't in your post, ie offer commodities

You haven't refreshed yet, so we can't put it in my turn. After you refresh on your turn we can trade immediately.

Yep, you have though so you can offer me a trade of 2:2 then on my turn I accept it.

As long as I know, I'll post my turn

Tatts you might want to look at your turn again you have an unused influence planet, no need to spend trade goods!

Thanks, I'm posting from my phone and would've noticed on computer

[twelve]

So we need to wait until Gnaw fixes his posta before continuing?

[D'rek]

twelve, on 15 July 2018 - 03:00 PM, said:

So we need to wait until Gnaw fixes his posta before continuing?

Not necessarily. However Gnaw fixes his post wouldn't affect my turn so I went ahead and posted. Same goes for anyone else - if it'll affect your turn, wait to see how he fixes, otherwise go ahead.

[Gnaw]

Fixed. Dammit.

Tatts, I didn’t play Diplomacy so you can’t use it yet.

[Tattersail_]

Okay well that doea affect my action.

[Tattersail_]

If Diplo was played I'd have kept same move, as it wasn't I wanted to invade Sakalug before diplomacy was played.

[Galactic Council]

The map in the game thread has been updated.

[twelve]

Blend,

You show that I have 2 carriers on the map. I only have 1.

This post has been edited by twelve: 15 July 2018 - 10:51 PM

[Gnaw]

twelve, on 15 July 2018 - 10:51 PM, said:

Blend,

You show that I have 2 carriers on the map. I only have 1.

Silly Twelve. You only tell the ModGod when the screwup is not in you’re favor. The other way round? Just hope no one else notices.

[D'rek]

So we're waiting on Morgoth while he canoes around Indonesia because he didn't leave a provisional even in the first round...? (Can we safely assume his next action would be to move infantry to Mellon/Zohbat?)

[Gnaw]

D, on 16 July 2018 - 04:05 AM, said:

So we're waiting on Morgoth while he canoes around pillages Indonesia because he didn't leave a provisional even in the first round...? (Can we safely assume his next action would be to move infantry to Mellon/Zohbat?)

FTFY And drunken Vikings are notoriously poor at multitasking.

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 15 July 2018 - 08:44 AM, said:

I have done my provisional it's sat in my PM's.

@tapper everyone had posted after I asked for a counter proposal so assumed no one wanter it. D'rek got first dibs but didn't want it. Gnaw's PN may be one use but that could really come in handy when I need it. If you want my racial why don't you negotiate with Gnaw?

I just noticed the original conversation surrounding the PN started in the sign-up thread, so that initial 1h15 mark I gave between offer and acceptance is not entirely true, it just spread over multiple threads.
Blend remarked earlier he was caught a bit by surprise by all the haggling over hexes and I feel the last few players to pick stuff should not have the added disadvantage of deals already being made before it is their turn to make their selection.
Not blaming the mod here, just offering the suggestion that in future games I would really like negotiation to be opened and closed by the mod, like D'rek (and I assume Blend) do with the status phase.
An added suggestion would be to have some sort of organisation of how we can track offers and deals in the Chatty thread - maybe a post per race on the opening page?

[Tapper]

D, on 16 July 2018 - 04:05 AM, said:

So we're waiting on Morgoth while he canoes around Indonesia because he didn't leave a provisional even in the first round...? (Can we safely assume his next action would be to move infantry to Mellon/Zohbat?)

That seems the sensible thing. Question is if/what he wants to produce.