[Tapper]

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 08:21 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

My considerations aka Tapper speech

Hex 7; Gravity Rift
Hex 12, Zej Rajja, 2:1
Hex 25, Abyz/Fria 3/2
Hex 30, Alpha Wormhole
Hex 43, Beta Wormhole

Early days that'd leave the galaxy in even expansion I think regarding wormhole, especially if Morgoth gives IH his wormhole too. Once the Ghosts get their wormhole generator it'd be interesting. This is not confirmed yet though. I'll see what D'rek has to say first.

I think it's better to send it to Blend rather than posting it here. You're giving those whom have yet to place a serious advantage by revealing for all to see your choices.

In my case, they're to be used for negotiation. It is all I have

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 08:21 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

My considerations aka Tapper speech

Hex 7; Gravity Rift
Hex 12, Zej Rajja, 2:1
Hex 25, Abyz/Fria 3/2
Hex 30, Alpha Wormhole
Hex 43, Beta Wormhole

Early days that'd leave the galaxy in even expansion I think regarding wormhole, especially if Morgoth gives IH his wormhole too. Once the Ghosts get their wormhole generator it'd be interesting. This is not confirmed yet though. I'll see what D'rek has to say first.

I think it's better to send it to Blend rather than posting it here. You're giving those whom have yet to place a serious advantage by revealing for all to see your choices.

This is not set in stone. Tapper did the same up thread, it requires discussion as to whether or not I place those tiles there.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Seriously guys, putting up a list of all your systems and where you're placing them is madness. This is an important phase and it will decide much of what will happen in the game. And you're giving all the info for free to everyone, including those whom have yet to post anything. Send it to Blend if you've decided on all of your placements already.

Well now IH knows I can give him a wormhole he doesn't need to give you one of his valuable systems. Although it'd be between you anyway so first come first serve.

[Gnaw]

I’m fine with whatever is placed. Luck of the draw.

[Tapper]

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Seriously guys, putting up a list of all your systems and where you're placing them is madness. This is an important phase and it will decide much of what will happen in the game. And you're giving all the info for free to everyone, including those whom have yet to post anything. Send it to Blend if you've decided on all of your placements already.

Yes. Likewise, it would have been nice if the negotiations had actually waited for the last homeworld to be placed.
There was already been an offer of "my best tile for your best tile" on the table. Anyhow, water, bridge.

As for revealing planets: there's something said to be said for openness, and something for guarding your choices.
In my case, I think openness is my best course of action as I can arrange a 1-on-1 transaction with Bliss for planets next to the HS and with D'rek for belt 2.
I do not share a timezone with either, so openness helps there, and I value speed over secrecy.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 11 July 2018 - 08:58 AM

[Morgoth]

True enough. I am happy with my good faith deals with D'rek and twelve without going into that much detail. And with IH, though that tile was outed. I don't think it's in my interest that people know too much about how the board will look before they place their first tile. So, I have sent my list to Blend and that will be that I assume.

[Morgoth]

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

@IH - I'd trade for Quecenn Rarron. I can't really offer you any other systems with a planet unless I were to break a previous deal, and I'm not doing that.

You never confirmed this IH.

[Tattersail_]

I have PM'd Blend my hex placement.

[Imperial Historian]

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

@IH - I'd trade for Quecenn Rarron. I can't really offer you any other systems with a planet unless I were to break a previous deal, and I'm not doing that.

You never confirmed this IH.

I'll place quecenn raron there. The value of quecenn is in my opinion considerably higher than quann though so we may end up in conflict over it, will see what the rest of the board looks like if there are more attractive tiles towards the centre I'm more likely to do that.

[Morgoth]

Quann gives you access to the galaxy, whereas I have no other option than to expand in my immediate neighborhood. I think it's a fair trade.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 08:21 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

My considerations aka Tapper speech

Hex 7; Gravity Rift
Hex 12, Zej Rajja, 2:1
Hex 25, Abyz/Fria 3/2
Hex 30, Alpha Wormhole
Hex 43, Beta Wormhole

Early days that'd leave the galaxy in even expansion I think regarding wormhole, especially if Morgoth gives IH his wormhole too. Once the Ghosts get their wormhole generator it'd be interesting. This is not confirmed yet though. I'll see what D'rek has to say first.

I think it's better to send it to Blend rather than posting it here. You're giving those whom have yet to place a serious advantage by revealing for all to see your choices.

This is not set in stone. Tapper did the same up thread, it requires discussion as to whether or not I place those tiles there.

Tatts if I put Lazar sakulag in 40 can I convince you to switch the placement of 12 and 43?

[Morgoth]

I think that will lend itself to a much cooler map

[Tattersail_]

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 11 July 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 08:21 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

My considerations aka Tapper speech

Hex 7; Gravity Rift
Hex 12, Zej Rajja, 2:1
Hex 25, Abyz/Fria 3/2
Hex 30, Alpha Wormhole
Hex 43, Beta Wormhole

Early days that'd leave the galaxy in even expansion I think regarding wormhole, especially if Morgoth gives IH his wormhole too. Once the Ghosts get their wormhole generator it'd be interesting. This is not confirmed yet though. I'll see what D'rek has to say first.

I think it's better to send it to Blend rather than posting it here. You're giving those whom have yet to place a serious advantage by revealing for all to see your choices.

This is not set in stone. Tapper did the same up thread, it requires discussion as to whether or not I place those tiles there.

Tatts if I put Lazar sakulag in 40 can I convince you to switch the placement of 12 and 43?

How about I put the Gravity Rift in 43 to provide a little cover for you from that direction and place the beta wormhole in 7?

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

My thought on that is that you're quickly going to change your mind as circumstances develop.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

My thought on that is that you're quickly going to change your mind as circumstances develop.

I am not going to always pick trade as I get a free refresh anyway, but it still stands, I am not going to extort people.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:51 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

My thought on that is that you're quickly going to change your mind as circumstances develop.

I am not going to always pick trade as I get a free refresh anyway, but it still stands, I am not going to extort people.

"Give me a free refresh or I invade your systems with my giant fleet."

"Uh, okay, let's forget that TG payment."

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 11 July 2018 - 11:53 AM

[Tattersail_]

IH what does Lazar Skalug look like?

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:52 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:51 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2018 - 11:49 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

I am going to offer action card transactions at a cost of 1 TG per player. So if Morgoth wants to trade with D'rek involving action cards it will cost 1 TG each.
If I get trade everyone will get a free refresh for the cost of 1 TG or 1 Commodity.

Thoughts?

My thought on that is that you're quickly going to change your mind as circumstances develop.

I am not going to always pick trade as I get a free refresh anyway, but it still stands, I am not going to extort people.

"Give me a free refresh or I invade your systems with my giant fleet."

"Uh, okay, let's forget that TG payment."

Ha ha, leave me alone you Bully!

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 11 July 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 11 July 2018 - 08:21 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2018 - 08:18 AM, said:

My considerations aka Tapper speech

Hex 7; Gravity Rift
Hex 12, Zej Rajja, 2:1
Hex 25, Abyz/Fria 3/2
Hex 30, Alpha Wormhole
Hex 43, Beta Wormhole

Early days that'd leave the galaxy in even expansion I think regarding wormhole, especially if Morgoth gives IH his wormhole too. Once the Ghosts get their wormhole generator it'd be interesting. This is not confirmed yet though. I'll see what D'rek has to say first.

I think it's better to send it to Blend rather than posting it here. You're giving those whom have yet to place a serious advantage by revealing for all to see your choices.

This is not set in stone. Tapper did the same up thread, it requires discussion as to whether or not I place those tiles there.

Tatts if I put Lazar sakulag in 40 can I convince you to switch the placement of 12 and 43?

Is it just because you want planets next to your system?

Okay, Lazar Sakulag next to me and Zej Rajja next to you, I don't want the wormhole next to me at the moment, so do you mind that going to 7 and I'll place Gravity rift on 12?