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#1 User is offline   Kruppe80Slovakia 

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Posted 04 June 2018 - 09:41 PM

Hello everyone,

i am creating card game based upon Deck of Dragons. I have some basic thought how it could look like, but i need permission from you = artists, that draw so many amazing paintings and draws about malazan´s book characters. So please, who is willing to grant me permission to use your paintings for this game? I am not doing it for money, but for fun and because i wish to have this deck. For everyone who allow me to use his draws, i will send you complete deck of cards in electronic form so you will be able to print it and play it also.

For inspiration: This is first card that i make but without permission from its creator Mrakobulka(I hope she allow me to use it, and many other draws that she draw for High House of Light).

https://forum.malaza...use-light-king/

This is my first list for desired paintings from High House of Light:

1. King – Vatha Urusander
2. Queen - ??? Saeng
3. Champion - Osseric
4. Priest – ??? Ilgast Rend
5. Captain - ??? Hunn Raal
6. Soldier - Kyle of the Crimson Guard
7. Seamstress - ??? Shellas
8. Builder – Hurl
9. Maiden - ??? Renarr
10. Hounds – Hounds of Light

three question marks means that that character is not officialy add to this House, i just think its suitable candidate.
So please people grant me your permissions to use your paintings and send them into this topic.

This post has been edited by Kruppe80Slovakia: 04 June 2018 - 09:42 PM

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 01:16 AM

The first card you've created looks very cool!

You may want to look through this thread: https://forum.malaza...age-1-progress/ and talk with the author/artist, misteradam, there or in PM. They have created a bunch of awesome card art. They may be open to working with you on this.
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Posted 05 June 2018 - 05:00 PM

 Kruppe80Slovakia, on 04 June 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

Hello everyone,

i am creating card game based upon Deck of Dragons. I have some basic thought how it could look like, but i need permission from you = artists, that draw so many amazing paintings and draws about malazan΄s book characters. So please, who is willing to grant me permission to use your paintings for this game? I am not doing it for money, but for fun and because i wish to have this deck. For everyone who allow me to use his draws, i will send you complete deck of cards in electronic form so you will be able to print it and play it also.

For inspiration: This is first card that i make but without permission from its creator Mrakobulka(I hope she allow me to use it, and many other draws that she draw for High House of Light).

https://forum.malaza...use-light-king/

This is my first list for desired paintings from High House of Light:

1. King – Vatha Urusander
2. Queen - ??? Saeng
3. Champion - Osseric
4. Priest – ??? Ilgast Rend
5. Captain - ??? Hunn Raal
6. Soldier - Kyle of the Crimson Guard
7. Seamstress - ??? Shellas
8. Builder – Hurl
9. Maiden - ??? Renarr
10. Hounds – Hounds of Light

three question marks means that that character is not officialy add to this House, i just think its suitable candidate.
So please people grant me your permissions to use your paintings and send them into this topic.



Would like to raise some issues with the list above.
The deck is not supposed to be a constant list of characters; different players often swap in to a role in a house (for ex. the queen of chains). It is also sometimes customized to the location. Different decks will also miss some actors (i.e. they are not in play at the time).
This list above of the High House Light is a mix that never existed.
In fact I am not sure the deck even existed at the time of FoL. It might be a later creation.


From a game perspective, you could create a game with certain houses left out. pick among multiple contenders for a card, remove some players in a house if needed.
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:43 AM

I guess you have already found the images we have at the wiki for the Deck of Dragons.

The images from Mrakobulka, Heathwind and Keezy Young were all commissioned by Annabella Rake. You could also try to get into contact with her. https://annabellarak...com/archive#_=_

Using characters for the cards that could exist at the same time in the deck of dragons could be a good idea. Maybe adding some people to the houses to fill empty slots that have some connection with a house, but were never mentioned to have a position. Like L'oric. I also think that Saeng would most likely be the priest of High House Light.

In terms of number of cards per house only Light, Dark, Life, Death and Chain have roughly the same number of cards.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 12:12 PM

 - Coltaine -, on 06 June 2018 - 07:43 AM, said:

The images from Mrakobulka, Heathwind and Keezy Young were all commissioned by Annabella Rake. You could also try to get into contact with her. https://annabellarak...com/archive#_=_


God damn, but there are some beautiful artworks on there!
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Posted 12 June 2018 - 05:23 PM

Feel free to use the ones I've made as long as it's not for profit and it has my email on there.

As a sidenote, I need to make another design piece for my portfolio and would love to create a template for you to use for the card layouts if you need a designer.
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Posted 22 July 2018 - 10:21 PM

Thank you everyone for help an advices. I can know proudly annouce that:

It is half done. I made it and fulfill empty positions in this set of cards:


High House Dark Kurald Galain, Rashan
1. King - ??? Withal (worshiped Mael, wife Sandalath)
2. Queen - Sandalath Drukorlat, formerly Mother Dark
3. Knight - Son of Darkness, ??? Anomander Rake
4. Magi - Quick Ben
5. Herald - Belurdan Skullcrusher (Dying God - His blood was the toxic beverage saemenkelyk, which poisoned people's spirit, making them his followers and
worshippers. )the position was not listed in the glossary sections of the Malazan books. The only reference to it was made by Clip who claimed to have been
Herald of Dark, a claim rejected by Kedeviss.
6. Captain - ??? Korlat (reading thoughts)
7. Soldier - ??? Orfantal
8. Weaver- ??? Hairlock (book of sorcery)(with puppet)

High House Death Hood΄s path, Telas
1. King - formerly Hood
2. Queen - ??? Jhenna (guardian of Deadhouse in Malaz City)
3. Knight - Dassem Ultor
4. Magi - ??? Tayschrenn
5. Herald - ??? Nehemoth (Nehemoth duo: Bauchelain and Korbal Broach)
6. Soldier - Baudin
7. Spinner - unknown ??? Talamandas (puppet)
8. Mason - Whiskeyjack

High House Chains Thel Warrens, D΄riss
1. (1. - 8.)Ruler – the Crippled God
2.(1.) King – Skinner
3.(5.) Consort – Tavore Paran,
4.(2.) Reaver – one man one woman ??? D΄rek (was described as two giant snake-like entities, each as large in scale as the tower of a fortress. One bore the
upper portions and features of a human male, the other a female. It seemed that the two entities might be the opposite ends of the same entity.) Worm of
Autumn, Mistress of Worms
5.(3.) Knight – Karsa Orlong[18]
6. (4.) The Seven of the Dead Fires - The Unbound T'lan Imass, in line to be replaced[8]
Beroke Soft Voice, Halad Rack Bearer, Imroth the Cruel, Kahlb the Silent Hunter, 'Siballe the Unfound, Thenik the Shattered, Urugal the Woven
7. (6.) Herald – ??? Soliel (Lady of Health)
8. (7.) Magi – ??? Poliel (Mistress of Pestilence)

High House Life Denaeth Rusen, Mockra
1. King - Brys Beddict
2. Queen - T'riss, the Queen of Dreams
3. Champion - Lostara Yil
4. Priest – ??? Kruppe
5. Herald - Ublala Pung
6. Soldier – Fiddler (moranth munition)
7. Weaver – Agayla
8. Mason – unknown,??? Tehol Beddict (Bugg=Mael god of seas)

High House Light Kurald Thyrllan, Thyr
1. King – Vatha Urusander
2. Queen - ??? Saeng ((Saeng was called 'Priestess of Light' by Old Man Moon but it is unclear if this referred to the position of Priest in the High House
Light))
3. Champion - Osseric
4. Priest – ??? Ilgast Rend,
5. Captain - ??? Hunn Raal
6. Soldier - Kyle of the Crimson Guard (special sword Whiteblade)
7. Seamstress - ??? Shellas (save Urusander with her life)
8. Hounds – Hounds of Light

High House Shadow Kurald Emurlahn, Meanas
1. King - Shadowthrone/Ammanas[1]
2. Queen - unknown, ??? Laseen
3. Assassin - The Rope/Cotillion
4. Magi - Iskaral Pust
5. Knight - Trull Sengar[11]
6.(8.) Hound - The Hounds of Shadow[12]
7. (6.)Apprentice ??? Kalam Mekhar (otataral dagger)
8. (7.)Mistress ??? Apsalar (possesion by Cotillion)

High House War Barghast warren, Tennes
1. Lord of Wolves/Lords of War - Togg and Fanderay
2. Hunter - Treach
3. Guardians of the Road/Dead - the Bridgeburners
4. Mercenary - the Crimson Guard / the Perish Grey Helms
5. Army and the Soldier - the Bonehunters
6. Lifeslayer - Icarium
7. Death Slayer - The Crippled God (double role)
8. Herald - Toc Anaster

Unaligned
°°° Oponn – The Lord and Lady of Chance (coin)
2. Obelisk – Burn
1. Crown – unknown, ??? Caladan Brood
3. Sceptre – Grub
4. Orb – Gesler
5. Throne – Stormy
6. Chain - ??? Crone (chaining)
°°° Master of the Deck – Ganoes Paran (master)
7. Salvation – Felisin the Younger's faction
8. The Apocalyptic – Sha'ik and Felisin's army
°°° The Shaved Knuckle in the Hole

How do you like characters that i added into Houses?
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Posted 23 July 2018 - 06:50 PM

Interesting ideas. In some cases I would object, as the characters don't fit the house from their connections or because the already were assigned a role in the books. Also the warrens connected with the houses sometimes don't fit.

Based on the warren of the top god of the house i would assume:
HH Dark - Kurald GalainHH Light - Kurald Thyrllan
HH Life - Thyr (Thyr has also a connection to Mockra)HH Death - Hood's PathHH Shadow - Kurald Emurlahn, Meanas, Rashan (Shadow is a mess)HH Chains - Has its own warren, probably a fragment of Kurald EmurlahnHH War - Beast Hold or a modern version of it
In the case of holders of different positions, I would stick with characters that are still around at the beginning of the the MBOTF. If they survive the books shouldn't play a role in the selection. Making anyone else aside from Anomander Rake the Knight of Darkness feels wrong, as an example. Also it would be important to avoid spoilers for readers that haven't finished all the books.
I will add my ideas below ;)

 Kruppe80Slovakia, on 22 July 2018 - 10:21 PM, said:

High House Dark Kurald Galain
1. King - Draconus
2. Queen - Mother Dark
3. Knight - Anomander Rake
4. Magi - Quick Ben / Endest Silann
5. Herald - Clip / Endest Silann
6. Captain - Korlat
7. Soldier - Orfantal
8. Weaver- Aranatha

High House Death Hood΄s path
1. King - Hood
2. Queen - ??? Jhenna (guardian of Deadhouse in Malaz City)
3. Knight - Dassem Ultor / Seguleh Second
4. Magi - Talamandas (Was the Magi in MoI)
5. Herald - Toc the Younger / Gethol
6. Soldier - Baudin
7. Spinner - ??? -> No real clue here
8. Mason - Whiskeyjack

High House Chains
1. (1. - 8.)Ruler – the Crippled God
2.(1.) King – Rhulad (better choice for King in my opinion, to avoid spoilers)
3.(5.) Consort – Tavore Paran / Poliel (MoI)
4.(2.) Reaver – Kallor
5.(3.) Knight – Karsa Orlong[18]
6. (4.) The Seven of the Dead Fires - The Unbound T'lan Imass, in line to be replaced[8]
Beroke Soft Voice, Halad Rack Bearer, Imroth the Cruel, Kahlb the Silent Hunter, 'Siballe the Unfound, Thenik the Shattered, Urugal the Woven
7. (6.) Herald – Gethol (MoI)
8. (7.) Magi – Bidithal (HoC)

High House Life Thyr
1. King - Brys Beddict
2. Queen - T'riss, the Queen of Dreams
3. Champion - Lostara Yil
4. Priest – ??? Kruppe <- Interesting idea Fiddler also held this position once
5. Herald - Ublala Pung
6. Soldier – Fiddler (moranth munition)
7. Weaver – Agayla
8. Mason – unknown,??? Tehol Beddict (Bugg=Mael god of seas) <- Bugg sounds like a better idea than Tehol, even if he is a powerful god himself

High House Light Kurald Thyrllan
1. King – Vatha Urusander
2. Queen - ??? Saeng ((Saeng was called 'Priestess of Light' by Old Man Moon but it is unclear if this referred to the position of Priest in the High House
Light))
3. Champion - Osseric
4. Priest – L'oric /Saeng /Shalmanat (already dead at the beginning of the MBotF, but a priestess)
5. Captain - Aparal Forge maybe/ Jayashul
6. Soldier - Kyle of the Crimson Guard (special sword Whiteblade)
7. Seamstress - No idea
8. Hounds – Hounds of Light

High House Shadow Kurald Emurlahn, Meanas
1. King - Shadowthrone/Ammanas[1]
2. Queen - unknown, ??? Laseen <- Laseen would never be part of Shadow. Maybe Apsalar
3. Assassin - The Rope/Cotillion
4. Magi - Iskaral Pust
5. Knight - Trull Sengar[11]
6.(8.) Hound - The Hounds of Shadow[12]
7. (6.)Apprentice Cutter ???
8. (7.)Mistress Apsalar / Vorcan Radok

High House War
-> Not sure if it really needs to be in a card game of the Deck. Completely different structure than the other houses

But you could also try to build a new structure for the deck, based on the other ones with King (Togg), Queen (Fanderay), Hunter (Treach), Herold (Toc Anaster), Magi (Setoc/Run'Thurvian). Other possibilities are Mortal Sword (Krughava) and Shield Anvil (Tanakalian), maybe by other names. The House actually has a champion, although he only appears in HoC and tCG. The enkar'al bull trapped in the body of a Toblakai from fortress B'ridys (https://malazan.wikia.com/wiki/B'ridys_demon). He doesn't have his own article at the wiki
1. Lord of Wolves/Lords of War - Togg and Fanderay
2. Hunter - Treach
3. Guardians of the Road/Dead - the Bridgeburners
4. Mercenary - the Crimson Guard / the Perish Grey Helms
5. Army and the Soldier - the Bonehunters
6. Lifeslayer - Icarium
7. Death Slayer - The Crippled God (double role)
8. Herald - Toc Anaster

Unaligned
°°° Oponn – The Lord and Lady of Chance (coin)
2. Obelisk – Burn
1. Crown – unknown, ??? Caladan Brood Brood is associated with Burn and Obelisk, In one reading Crown represented Darujhistan.
3. Sceptre – Grub
4. Orb – Gesler
5. Throne – Stormy
6. Chain - ??? Crone (chaining) / maybe Kaminsod
°°° Master of the Deck – Ganoes Paran (master)
7. Salvation – Felisin the Younger's faction
8. The Apocalyptic – Sha'ik and Felisin's army
°°° The Shaved Knuckle in the Hole



In which book/chapter is the one man one woman quote that gave you the idea of D'rek for Reaver of Chains btw? Would like to add it to the wiki. Thx
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