[Folken]

They do seem a lot like the Crimson Guard, but for some odd reason I seem to recall now someone saying that the Crimson Guard were ICE and the Selugh were SE...but yeah :Erm: Where is Hetan when you need her damn it!

[Entropic_existence]

I had thought the Seguleh were the creation of ICE but I may have just picked that up from opinions on the board. Personally I think they are fascinating and I would love to see more of them. Can someone point to me though were it says the ages of the initiates? (As in the 11th level initiates are 12-13 or whatever) I don't remember ever seeing that in the books...just an educated guess or did SE answer it somewhere?

[Trotts]

senu (an 11th level initate and one of envys servants) was 14 i believe

[Cause]

I cant recall excactly but tool asks senu how many summers he has seen and he answers 14 or a number close to. Younger but no older than 14 I will stake my life on that.

The age I gave for the black masks was a complete guess but since they are the lowest rank I thought around seven be a good place to start. Also spartans began training at seven and the connection seems to exist so I just said seven

[Entropic_existence]

Yea, once you mentioned the phrasing of the conversation I remember it, and remember being suuitably shocked that he was that young. Thanks

[Hume]

just remember though its possible that years in the Malazan world may be longer than ours.


Also with the Segulah, As much as I would like to see them I doubt it. My impression in MoI of them was that they werent an expansionist type civilisation, that is that they are Isolationist's. Could be wrong though. Unless of course the Crippled God has plans for them. Or the Tiste edur Bump into the Island of the Segulah, I would love to read about that.

With ICE having the crimson guard to write about, there was never any concrete info from the authors on that its just what we assumed. But then again if erikson is writing A tale of the Malazan book of the falen it stands to reason that he wont go too far from the malazans for the most part.
It appears to me that there are only Three other plot lines to read, that is the Crimson guard and What is going on In korelri and the land of Assail. or maybe even the conquests of the Tiste edur so far (maybe not) ?

[jayisspecial]

Segulah's do seem very Spartan esque

Sparta, the pre-eminent power of Ancient Greece kept their place through pure martial training. The main full citizen class was barred from all jobs but soldiery, with conquered neighbors making up their merchant classes. From 7 to 20 they trained in tactics and conditioning to be the the best they could be. Weak children were uethanized with the help of a tall cliff, while their king fought with them in battles.


Hurray for Sparta, and Segulah

[Cause]

I am pretty sure we will see more of mok and hsi broithers. Landy envy and krulls conversation seems to suggest they allong with tool and toc are important players. Also I doubt they hint abou the missing seguleh second for nothing all the time.

[Hume]

^ True dat ^

[Iron Bars]

Cause said:

I am pretty sure we will see more of mok and hsi broithers. Landy envy and krulls conversation seems to suggest they allong with tool and toc are important players. Also I doubt they hint abou the missing seguleh second for nothing all the time.

I hope that happens soon cuz for me thats one of the best sidestories so far.

[Roland]

I don't agree. So far he's done a great job tying loose ends.

[Iron Bars]

Killanthir said:

I'm of the opinion that SE will leave a lot of loose ends by the end of the series. He presents a lot of questions, mysteries etc. but I don't think he intends to resolve most of them.

I do agree. Some of the stuff he is hinting at is not even his to write but ICE.

[Folken]

Killanthir said:

I'm of the opinion that SE will leave a lot of loose ends by the end of the series. He presents a lot of questions, mysteries etc. but I don't think he intends to resolve most of them.

Wait till you read BH;) Apparently a lot of things become SO much clear.

[Iron Bars]

Killanthir said:

I just think it fits with SE's style (and archeological background) to suggest a continuum rather than tie everything up nice and tight after 10 novels. I'm sure a lot of questions will be answered, but I expect just as many, if not more, to go unanswered/unresolved.

Hopefully he'll continue with this world after finishing the 10 books of the MTOTF.