[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 16 June 2018 - 07:26 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 16 June 2018 - 12:07 AM, said:

Why won't anyone give ME any stuff?

Khell you should declare for FOR to see what you can get from gnaw and twelve, think sakulag is a lost cause now. 😋

I'd like FOR to pass mainly due to twelves dislike of it and the loss of everyone else's action cards but won't be that upset if it fails.

I'm for the law against giving Morgoth a free dread more. you guys giving it to him and allowing him initiative over me is giving him the win. Will hate to tell you all I told you so and hope I'm wrong but don't think so.

[Blend]

twelve, on 16 June 2018 - 06:06 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 16 June 2018 - 07:26 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 16 June 2018 - 12:07 AM, said:

Why won't anyone give ME any stuff?

Khell you should declare for FOR to see what you can get from gnaw and twelve, think sakulag is a lost cause now. 😋

I'd like FOR to pass mainly due to twelves dislike of it and the loss of everyone else's action cards but won't be that upset if it fails.

I'm for the law against giving Morgoth a free dread more. you guys giving it to him and allowing him initiative over me is giving him the win. Will hate to tell you all I told you so and hope I'm wrong but don't think so.

I mean, it's ONE Dread. Not really that arsed about it, but frankly, you and he being at each other's throats is better for me than helping you all out.

[Imperial Historian]

Blend, on 16 June 2018 - 06:05 PM, said:

Buahahaha!!! Excellent decision IH! Moving my votes back to FOR Economic Sanctions.

Depending on what Gnaw gave me, I may pass you a couple of action cards to hold for me, and I agree to continue our cease-fire.

Cool, happy to play any action cards for you but if you want me to store them and give them back the whole nico constantly looting me will be a bit of a pain in the butt so I'd want a TG to compensate me if I'm being looted. Being looted the first time is fine but I'm not agreeing to be constantly looted!

[Blend]

Yeah no worries IH. I may not even pass any to you, and just discard down. We'll see. Either way, I'll cover any pillaging as necessary.

[twelve]

That 1 dread and allowing him to go before me means my fleets will get wiped out, i'll have no way to build anymore and he takes minimal loses and gains my homeworlds. The next largest fleet is Tatts who is on the other side of the map and will require a round to do anything and at that point Morgoth with integrated economy will have spec op IIs everywhere that we can't hope to beat. Game, set, match. Morgoth wins. Even if he doesn't get the dread and Gnaw finally realize how much he can do with 8 trade goods, my 2 pns and Tapper's 1 and allows me to go first I will still have slightly better than 60 percent odds of winning against him. Add the fact that I have shit for production it will be a couple rounds before I replace my losses while Morgoth with his 18 production will still be able to replace all his and then some this round. I lose even if I win and he treads water.

[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 16 June 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

D’rek, you ok ma’am?

I'm fine?

[Morgoth]

D, on 16 June 2018 - 06:31 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 16 June 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

D’rek, you ok ma’am?

I'm fine?

Are you sure?

[Gnaw]

Blend, on 16 June 2018 - 06:05 PM, said:

Buahahaha!!! Excellent decision IH! Moving my votes back to FOR Economic Sanctions.

Depending on what Gnaw gave me, I may pass you a couple of action cards to hold for me, and I agree to continue our cease-fire.

And that is the reason I want the against. Had this law come up sooner the rest of us would have been at a sever disadvantage.

[Gnaw]

D, on 16 June 2018 - 06:31 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 16 June 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

D'rek, you ok ma'am?

I'm fine?

So who/what are we waiting on?

[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 16 June 2018 - 09:43 PM, said:

D, on 16 June 2018 - 06:31 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 16 June 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

D'rek, you ok ma'am?

I'm fine?

So who/what are we waiting on?

You guys still seemed to be actively discussing/negotiating, trading votes, etc.

[Khellendros]

What she's saying is:

SA-KU-LAG, SA-KU-LAG, SA-KU-LAG! Free Toblerones for all who vote Sakulag!

[Gnaw]

D, on 16 June 2018 - 09:49 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 16 June 2018 - 09:43 PM, said:

D, on 16 June 2018 - 06:31 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 16 June 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

D'rek, you ok ma'am?

I'm fine?

So who/what are we waiting on?

You guys still seemed to be actively discussing/negotiating, trading votes, etc.

Oh. Ok. I’m done negotiating. Votes cast.

[D'rek]

@Tatts:

Tattersail_, on 15 June 2018 - 07:37 PM, said:

Exchange Ceasefire PN with IH for his Ceasefire PN.

You already traded your Ceasefire PN away to Blend on his 3rd turn this round:

Blend, on 06 June 2018 - 07:33 PM, said:

Activate Trade secondary.
Refresh Commodities.

Activate Imperial Secondary
Draw 1 Secret Objective.

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In exchange for me playing Warfare this turn, Tatts is trading to me his Ceasefire PN as well as the agreed-upon action card (noted in my provisional action in my game PM D'rek).
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Blend.

In exchange for me playing Warfare this turn, Gnaw is giving me back my Trade Agreement PN.
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Blend.

Take 1 action card given to me by Khell.
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Khell.

Provide that same 1 action card to Tatts. (no pillage)

Trade 4 commodities to Twelve for 4 TGs (assuming Nico pillages).
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Blend.
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Twelve.

[Gnaw]

Hah. At least Tatts fucked IH over.

[D'rek]

Everyone other than IH, post which cards you want to discard in your PM as soon as possible. Definitely must happen *before* you pick a strategy card.

[Tattersail_]

IH I didn't realise I didn't have it. All that negotiating too.

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 17 June 2018 - 03:18 AM, said:

@Tatts:

Tattersail_, on 15 June 2018 - 07:37 PM, said:

Exchange Ceasefire PN with IH for his Ceasefire PN.

You already traded your Ceasefire PN away to Blend on his 3rd turn this round:

Blend, on 06 June 2018 - 07:33 PM, said:

Activate Trade secondary.
Refresh Commodities.

Activate Imperial Secondary
Draw 1 Secret Objective.

---

In exchange for me playing Warfare this turn, Tatts is trading to me his Ceasefire PN as well as the agreed-upon action card (noted in my provisional action in my game PM D'rek).
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Blend.

In exchange for me playing Warfare this turn, Gnaw is giving me back my Trade Agreement PN.
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Blend.

Take 1 action card given to me by Khell.
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Khell.

Provide that same 1 action card to Tatts. (no pillage)

Trade 4 commodities to Twelve for 4 TGs (assuming Nico pillages).
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Blend.
Nico pillages 1 trade good from Twelve.

Hang on the ceasefire exchange was part of the deal, not two separate deals (was very specific about this to avoid being looted twice by Nico),if the ceasefire exchange isn't happening there isn't a deal but you seems to have still carried it out?

[Imperial Historian]

Tatts what do you want to do here?

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 17 June 2018 - 08:11 AM, said:

Tatts what do you want to do here?

Yes it was all part of the same deal as we wanted to make sure we could trust each other not to intrude on each others territories. It's up to you, we could still live up to the spirit of the deal and have a game long ceasefire. That way you don't have to worry about me and I won't have to worry about you.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 17 June 2018 - 09:27 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 17 June 2018 - 08:11 AM, said:

Tatts what do you want to do here?

Yes it was all part of the same deal as we wanted to make sure we could trust each other not to intrude on each others territories. It's up to you, we could still live up to the spirit of the deal and have a game long ceasefire. That way you don't have to worry about me and I won't have to worry about you.

Ok, we will see how it goes. No aggression against either of our current territories.