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#2701 User is offline   Imperial Historian 

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 10:55 AM

View PostNicodimas, on 22 May 2018 - 03:54 AM, said:

Didn’t realize people wanted me to use warfare ? Anyone paying me anything to use this card?

Does this thing have any uses .. may not need it this turn


I think that one of the main uses of warfare in its current incarnation is people bringing you to play it. The secondary is by far superior to the primary (almost the same case as diplomacy), think it's the result of drek splitting the card with logistics though it does make sense. I think the primary may need to be boosted somewhat as it has been last pick nearly everytime.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 11:13 AM

Warfare is a monster for big battles though, but not perhaps so relevant for the early game.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 12:25 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 22 May 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

Warfare is a monster for big battles though, but not perhaps so relevant for the early game.

Early game it also has some benefits. On turn 1, it is a good (but likely worse than Logistics) pick for players with 2 starting carriers.
For people with one carrier, it still works to grab that amazing 2nd ring double system (like Abyz-Fria is placed in this game).

I think the main issue why the Primary feels underwhelming is that it is just 2 action cards (Flanking Speed + Morale Boost) rolled into one. It feels like a REALLY good draw from Politics' Primary - and then you realize that Politics has 2 additonal effects that are just as good.
If the Primary is modified, imho it should do something on the strategic or ground combat side - "add 1 CT to Fleet capacity" for example would give it a lasting, welcome effect.

But, once you start boosting Primaries, there will always be a next card in need of a fix, either because the secondary is better than the primary (we'd start with Diplomacy) or because the Primary feels so much worse than other Primaries are for most players most of the time (hello Imperial).

The last two rounds saw a big uptick in the amount of combat happening - Warfare in its current version might just live up to its name :D.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 01:51 PM

Now THAT is a cool (and polarizing) new directive.

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 01:55 PM

Wow, why didn't that come up at the start of the round :D
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:06 PM

I'm sure all y'all will be pleased to know that I will be placing all my influence in a bid for you to have the opportunity to gain new knowledge! I'm just sad that none of my ships are in a position to aid in my own scientific pursuits.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:07 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 22 May 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

Wow, why didn't that come up at the start of the round :D

Because it wouldn't be as interesting?
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:12 PM

Hmm.
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This could be interesting.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:22 PM

View PostGnaw, on 22 May 2018 - 02:06 PM, said:

I'm sure all y'all will be pleased to know that I will be placing all my influence in a bid for you to have the opportunity to gain new knowledge! I'm just sad that none of my ships are in a position to aid in my own scientific pursuits.

This could be a carnage.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:33 PM

My votes could all be used on the other agenda...

For a fee.

A rather large fee.

The word exorbitant comes to mind.

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:56 PM

Hmmmm

On second thought... Tatts I might send a fighter on a suicide ‘scientific survey’ mission to your portal system. Not a declaration of war.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 03:20 PM

Well, well, well.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 03:24 PM

And I thought that the highlight of my day would be victory, for the first time ever, for staff in the staff-student football match.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 03:29 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 22 May 2018 - 03:24 PM, said:

And I thought that the highlight of my day would be victory, for the first time ever, for staff in the staff-student football match.



You teach at an all girl's elementary school then?

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 03:57 PM

Well that is a scary directive!
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 04:09 PM

View PostTapper, on 22 May 2018 - 01:51 PM, said:

Now THAT is a cool (and polarizing) new directive.

@ D'rek: do you research a tech per wormhole, or one tech, period?


Max 1 tech per player. Also note that the tech can be from any wormhole (alpha, beta, delta), but only ships in alpha/beta systems are destroyed.

The initial wording on the agenda was not great - I had copied it from a summary sheet. I've updated the agenda in the game thread to have the full wording of the card.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 05:27 PM

@Twelve: game post updated. Let me know if anything looks awry

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 05:34 PM

Cold, brutal, devastating. Someone should probably do something.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 05:55 PM

View PostD, on 22 May 2018 - 05:27 PM, said:

@Twelve: game post updated. Let me know if anything looks awry

Nope looks good. Better than expected actually.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 07:46 PM

This is what happens when you leave the University alone.
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