[D'rek]

99% sure Morgoth's provisional for Galactic Threat is:

choose COLONIAL REDISTRIBUTION -> Expected outcome = Zohbat.


But I'll let him post it in the game thread to be 100% sure. Likewise, anyone else with start-of-Agenda-phase effects should post them ASAP.

[D'rek]

Aside from that, go ahead and discuss/trade/wheel-and-deal. I've gotta log off for a while, but I expect we'll probably need a little while (i.e. ~8 hours) for everyone to be satisfied, submit, and then I'll resolve.

[Gnaw]

Found a list of action cards at board game geek. Think I've marked up all the ones that have been used so far.

Spoiler

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Edit: And I expect rep for this...

Edit 2: positive rep. With this lot that needs clarified.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 15 May 2018 - 01:15 AM

[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 15 May 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Found a list of action cards at board game geek. Think I've marked up all the ones that have been used so far.

Spoiler

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Edit: And I expect rep for this...

Edit 2: positive rep. With this lot that needs clarified.

But which one is your favourite???

[Nicodimas]

Infiltrate or rise of the messiah.

[twelve]

So when IH comes back on I'm offering him my political secret pn for no less than 6 hopefully more votes. If he accepts, then I'm offering Gnaw my trade Agreement pn for his 11 votes.

[Tapper]

twelve, on 14 May 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

Tapper, IH are you saying 6 trade goods aren't enough to sway your vote?

Sorry - after my last post I logged off for the night, now I am here again.
That PN is in and by itself a magnificent offer. I would be tempted - but I was also considering playing a rider on this vote for equivalent value. From what I understand however, negotiations have advanced to a point where I am too late to play it.

With Gnaw bought and an offer to IH open, it also seems you found alternative ways of beating the vote anyway so I am not sure if your offer still stands?

I can see how IH sees aiding you here as a move against Khell gaining more points from Imperial, and that PN as a way of stopping you from dominating the vote once you hold Mecatol (when you'd have 20-23 votes available).

[Gnaw]

Play the rider. Worst that can happen is Her Holiness says ‘no’.

[Tapper]

D, on 15 May 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 15 May 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

Found a list of action cards at board game geek. Think I've marked up all the ones that have been used so far.

Spoiler

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Edit: And I expect rep for this...

Edit 2: positive rep. With this lot that needs clarified.

But which one is your favourite???

Confusing Legal Text, especially if you first play a rider on the vote. Summit is less flashy, but a very welcome effect on any turn and has no requirements. I also like the Politics Rider a lot. It is a hard counter to its own strategy card.

[Gnaw]

Taps. How far are we trusting the Berserkers*?


*how well do you know your Saberhagen?

[Gnaw]

D, on 15 May 2018 - 03:07 AM, said:

But which one is your favourite???

Infiltration and reparations.

[Tapper]

Gnaw, on 15 May 2018 - 06:05 AM, said:

Play the rider. Worst that can happen is Her Holiness says ‘no’.

If IH votes Zohbat and I play a Rider, we arrive at 28 for Zohbat, 28 for your planet, and Speaker decides, I think?
Not sure I want to be depending 100% on that Also, did Twelve buy your votes, or your votes and the Speaker tie-breaker?

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw I offer you ceasefire PN to vote Mansa 3 and Twelve you can have my political PN.

If the outcome is correct I gain the Speaker Token which is on Gnaw already.

[Tapper]

Gnaw, on 15 May 2018 - 06:07 AM, said:

Taps. How far are we trusting the Berserkers*?


*how well do you know your Saberhagen?

I know Saberhagen only now from wiki. The answer is essentially: only as far as we can see that it is in their interest to remain nice, especially since neither of us is committed anywhere else.
I think I also underestimated the amount of systems a player can reliably control, underestimated the importance of ground forces and overestimated Strategic actions, so I might be way off in that speculation, too.

[Tattersail_]

Who are you talking about? Tapper how is Mallice to your plans? Morgoth will you move ships out of Quann?

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 06:19 AM, said:

Gnaw I offer you ceasefire PN to vote Mansa 3 and Twelve you can have my political PN.

If the outcome is correct I gain the Speaker Token which is on Gnaw already.

So you are offering me your political pn to vote for Mansa III? Is this correct? What exactly does the political rider do exactly?

[Gnaw]

Tattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 06:19 AM, said:

Gnaw I offer you ceasefire PN to vote Mansa 3 and Twelve you can have my political PN.

If the outcome is correct I gain the Speaker Token which is on Gnaw already.

What strategy card are you planning on taking?

Edit: doesn’t matter. Deal.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 15 May 2018 - 06:36 AM

[Gnaw]

twelve, on 15 May 2018 - 06:31 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 06:19 AM, said:

Gnaw I offer you ceasefire PN to vote Mansa 3 and Twelve you can have my political PN.

If the outcome is correct I gain the Speaker Token which is on Gnaw already.

So you are offering me your political pn to vote for Mansa III? Is this correct? What exactly does the political rider do exactly?

He gets to draw 3 action cards and steals the speaker token from me.

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 15 May 2018 - 06:19 AM, said:

Gnaw I offer you ceasefire PN to vote Mansa 3 and Twelve you can have my political PN.

If the outcome is correct I gain the Speaker Token which is on Gnaw already.

I guess if you get to play a rider and immediately negotiate, I might get to play a rider, too.

The timing of these bribes transactions is going to get confusing - Tatts needs to trade to Twelve before Twelve trades to Gnaw, and Twelve needs to (potentially) trade to IH before he trades to Gnaw.

[Morgoth]

you guys are all working really hard to keep twelve's control safe, huh?