[Tattersail_]

I wasn't even looking at the Agendas until today, then saw I only have 7 influence. Yet Twelve pushing for something so hard makes me want to oppose it even more.

Would Blend lose 4 planets with single infantry? Are you wanting to invade him or something?

IH 3/4

Nico 2

me 4

Gnaw 4

Tapper 1

Morgoth 4

Khell 1

Twelve 0

So it probably affects Morgoth, IH, Gnaw, Blend and myself more than Twelve, Tapper, Khell and Nico is that right?

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 01 May 2018 - 03:07 PM

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 01 May 2018 - 02:56 PM, said:

I wasn't even looking at the Agendas until today, then saw I only have 7 influence. Yet Twelve pushing for something so hard makes me want to oppose it even more.

This is why I suck at mafia. I don't know how to get people to do what I want and I'm easily readable.

[Imperial Historian]

I'm considering playing a rider on one of these agendas, when do I have to declare this?

My understanding is twelve would gain something like 8tg, khell and anyone who has invested in infantry would gain a similar amount. Nico could loot the shit out of people and gain a load. That said the reduction in infantry would slow some people down significantly.

I could be persuaded either way to be honest, either agenda passing would benefit twelve more than most.

[Imperial Historian]

We retain the planets they just don't have infantry on them. Does make it a lot easier to invade us though.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 01 May 2018 - 03:09 PM, said:

I'm considering playing a rider on one of these agendas, when do I have to declare this?

Action cards are always in the format:

{meaningless code I use for sorting} | {name of action card} | {when you can play this card} | {action card effect and stipulations}

In the case of the Rider cards, they're all:


ZZ | ______ Rider | Play at the start of the Agenda Phase | Choose one agenda: You cannot vote on this agenda. Predict aloud an outcome of this agenda. If you're right {stuff happens}



So you declare you're using it at the start of the Agenda Phase (preferably with a heads-up to me in advance so I can announce it if you're offline, too. If we've been in the agenda phase for 8 hours and there's been ample discussion already by the time you log back on and try to declare a rider I won't let you do it)

[Tattersail_]

Twelve cannot get to me quickly and my planets are not the greatest in terms of influence or production so I'm not too worried about me, but seem as he wants to push it I am thinking he has nefarious plans with his neighbours.

If Khell loses his homeworld he cannot get any VP's until he claims it back can he?

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Important: A player cannot score public objectives if hedoes not control all of the planets in his home system.

[Nicodimas]

twelve, on 01 May 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

Nico. If plows hares passes think of how many people you get to steal from since you now border so many races now.

I’m more in favor of against plowshares, but I hold a sway of 4 most I think??

Voting for means: twice as many trade goods for some empires

Voting against doing the math is roughly 1/2 TGs and a weaker presence.

However one player does have a shit to of planets. If you had even 7 planets is worth 3.5 TGs in equal exchange. 5 planets is 2.5 and 3 is 1.5 TGs.

However, for the agenda yields more TGs for just about every single race on the board and makes their board placement much weaker on this specific turn toward invasion if someone so sees that particular strategy.

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 01 May 2018 - 03:40 PM

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 01 May 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

Twelve cannot get to me quickly and my planets are not the greatest in terms of influence or production so I'm not too worried about me, but seem as he wants to push it I am thinking he has nefarious plans with his neighbours.

If Khell loses his homeworld he cannot get any VP's until he claims it back can he?

Quote

Important: A player cannot score public objectives if hedoes not control all of the planets in his home system.

Totally misinterpreting what I want accomplished. As you can see my naval fleets would be easy to take out therefore make me easy to conquer. Less troops available for invasion means even losing a ship battle I can still retain ownership of my planets. I'm still all about the defense.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 01 May 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 01 May 2018 - 03:17 PM, said:

Twelve cannot get to me quickly and my planets are not the greatest in terms of influence or production so I'm not too worried about me, but seem as he wants to push it I am thinking he has nefarious plans with his neighbours.

If Khell loses his homeworld he cannot get any VP's until he claims it back can he?

Quote

Important: A player cannot score public objectives if hedoes not control all of the planets in his home system.

Totally misinterpreting what I want accomplished. As you can see my naval fleets would be easy to take out therefore make me easy to conquer. Less troops available for invasion means even losing a ship battle I can still retain ownership of my planets. I'm still all about the defense.

All that tech makes you strong not weak.

[Imperial Historian]

It's incredible how finely balanced the voting is in this game.

What happens in the event of a tie?

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 01 May 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

It's incredible how finely balanced the voting is in this game.

What happens in the event of a tie?

The speaker decides

[Imperial Historian]

Also there was talk of the speaker getting extra votes, or was it the player of the politics card? What exactly is the deal?

[Nicodimas]

Imperial Historian, on 01 May 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

It's incredible how finely balanced the voting is in this game.

What happens in the event of a tie?

Speaker decides ties

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 01 May 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

Also there was talk of the speaker getting extra votes, or was it the player of the politics card? What exactly is the deal?

Talked about it. Eventually decided against it. With 9 players, being the Speaker (and therefore choosing strategy first) is plenty powerful enough as it is, and the POLITICS strategy will get picked everytime regardless.

[Imperial Historian]

Nicodimas, on 01 May 2018 - 03:39 PM, said:

twelve, on 01 May 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

Nico. If plows hares passes think of how many people you get to steal from since you now border so many races now.

I’m more in favor of against plowshares, but I hold a sway of 4 most I think??

Voting for means: twice as many trade goods for some empires

Voting against doing the math is roughly 1/2 TGs and a weaker presence.

However one player does have a shit to of planets. If you had even 7 planets is worth 3.5 TGs in equal exchange. 5 planets is 2.5 and 3 is 1.5 TGs.

However, for the agenda yields more TGs for just about every single race on the board and makes their board placement much weaker on this specific turn toward invasion if someone so sees that particular strategy.

surprised you are against can't you loot 1tg from everyone except morgoth if it passed?

[Nicodimas]

D, on 01 May 2018 - 04:00 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 01 May 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

Also there was talk of the speaker getting extra votes, or was it the player of the politics card? What exactly is the deal?

Talked about it. Eventually decided against it. With 9 players, being the Speaker (and therefore choosing strategy first) is plenty powerful enough as it is, and the POLITICS strategy will get picked everytime regardless.

To do the conversation for the new players picking first is essentially being given 9 trade goods, something to think about delving out the speaker chip....

[Tattersail_]

Nico I still haven't seen that PN yet.

[Nicodimas]

Tattersail_, on 01 May 2018 - 06:29 PM, said:

Nico I still haven't seen that PN yet.

Shows tatts PN for said parley .. I think I said the right words this time.

[Nicodimas]

I casted my votes against, gotta work work work

[Lady Bliss]

This looks entirely too complicated. Can we go back to playing mafia?