[Gnaw]

Morgoth said:

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I'm very excited about the map, and the speaker token. And my secret objective. It's hard to plan without those, and I want to plan!

Plan? We don’t need no stinking plan!

[Tapper]

Dear Naalu,

I suggest the natural division of Mehar Xull and Zej Rajja as part of the Sardakk N'orr empire and Corneeo Resculon as part of the Naalu sphere of influence would be a very sensible agreement, given their geographical (astrological?) proximity to either of us, and this is therefore my proposal to you.

[Gnaw]

Hmm. Tapper, are we sorta hemmed in by those two hexes? Can’t look up what they are right now.

[Tattersail_]

Which one are you Gnaw?

On the map, north or south of me.

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 12 April 2018 - 03:47 PM

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 12 April 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

Which one are you Gnaw?

On the map, north or south of me.

ItGnwaes (Naalu) is south of you. Nico (Mentak) is north of you.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 12 April 2018 - 03:50 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 12 April 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

Which one are you Gnaw?

On the map, north or south of me.

ItGnwaes (Naalu) is south of you. Nico (Mentak) is north of you.

Thanks. Just found where you said it. I'm compiling a list in my inbox with links to the right places.

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw if you move to Vefut II at some point and I have New Albion then we can reach a trade agreement? I start with 4 commodities. How many do you start with?

edit, you can even have the one towards the asteroid belt because you have the tech to go through it.

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 12 April 2018 - 03:59 PM

[Tapper]

Gnaw, on 12 April 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

Hmm. Tapper, are we sorta hemmed in by those two hexes? Can’t look up what they are right now.

There are some hexes on ring 2 (seen from the center of the map) that do not contain planets (iirc, I am on the phone, it's a wormhole and something else (nebula?) that probably requires tech to move through), as well as an empty hex next to your home planet that makes no sense for me to want to own from an economic point of view (and for you only for defensive purposes).

Hemmed in is a big word though. I think neither of us is contained in the way that we're blocked by obstacles, rather, there's a bit of a void between us.

[D'rek]

Asteroid Field

Anyone can move into or through them as long as they have Antimass Deflectors deflectors technology. Otherwise, they are impassable.

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Supernova

Completely impassable.

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Nebula

--Ships can't move through it (they must go around or stop in the Nebula)
--Ships defending a Nebula get +1 to their combat rolls
--Ships leaving a Nebula have their movement reduced to 1

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Gravity Rift

You can move into and through it, but when leaving the hex there's a 30% chance a ship is destroyed. If not, it gets +1 movement.

[D'rek]

So Asteroid Fields are the only ones that require a technology to move through, and once you have the tech they are basically just empty spaces to you. Anyone can move into/through Nebulas and Gravity Rifts from the start, there's just some unique properties involved.

[D'rek]

Here's all the Strategy Cards:

Spoiler

(also added them to the references post at the start of the thread)


I have rolled for starting Speaker and Tapper will be the Speaker at game start.

[Tapper]

Ironic, that the faction with the written speech impediment becomes Speaker... I mean, Speakkerr.

[Tattersail_]

Hmm, when do ww start picking strategy cards? Is there anything from stopping Tapper from picking tonight?

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 12 April 2018 - 08:18 PM, said:

Hmm, when do ww start picking strategy cards? Is there anything from stopping Tapper from picking tonight?

I still have a fair bit of setup to do so we're not ready to officially start the game yet, but you guys can pick in-advance if you want.

[Tattersail_]

Does using your strategy card primary use a command token?

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 12 April 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

Does using your strategy card primary use a command token?

Nope.

[twelve]

Am I reading the map correctly in that Kell and my starting systems right next to each other?

[D'rek]

twelve, on 12 April 2018 - 09:29 PM, said:

Am I reading the map correctly in that Kell and my starting systems right next to each other?

Nope

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 12 April 2018 - 08:18 PM, said:

Hmm, when do ww start picking strategy cards? Is there anything from stopping Tapper from picking tonight?

I am hoping to formalize my initial talks about borders with my neighbours before picking a card.

I was also hoping I could offer my dear neighbours to NOT pick a certain card of their choice in return for trade goods, but the Rules Reference mention 'active player's turn' for all Transactions, while in the Strategy phase, it carefully avoids both 'active player' and 'turn' (instead mentioning 'Starting with the Speaker and proceeding clockwise'), so I do not think that would fly :-)

[D'rek]

Ah yes, the whole "transactions" and "deals" thing. That's a whole new thing introduced in TI4. In TI3 you could just freely trade all the time, even when neither player is the active player.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages, I'm sure, but for a play-by-forum game where not everyone is present all the time I think the TI4 rules might be too constricting. At the very least, I'll allow you guys to negotiate anything at any time, it might just be a matter that the movement of commodities/trade goods/action cards from one player to another only occurs at the start of the player in-question's turn. I'm also not too concerned about limiting the number of transactions per turn, either.

The whole thing with immediately-implementable deals are binding and how you can only trade with your neighbours (except Blend) are still on, though.

Edit: and for the Strategy and Agenda Phases you can exchange commodities and trade goods freely. Nothing during the Status Phase.

This post has been edited by D'rek: 12 April 2018 - 11:13 PM