[Nevyn]

Now we just need Dolmen - Messremb and this whole thing is wrapped up

[Messremb]

Macros, on 01 March 2018 - 07:38 PM, said:

that reminds me, I'm fairly sure there's a death scene I still have to write for RAF.....

The 1997 game?

[Messremb]

Tattersail_, on 01 March 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

Nevyn, on 01 March 2018 - 07:10 PM, said:

Lol @ Cause.

Thanks for the free vote, fascist.


PS. Macros, could you officially confirm for us that Dolmen is NOT HITLER, so Tatts can stop pretending to hyperventilate.

PPS. Drek, what's the deal?

D'rek copied my vote again. She is mirroring my play.

Causes vote is confusing.

See one issue with this is that it is Mac running it. Those votes are likely in PM received order meaning she voted before you did.

[Messremb]

Vengeance, on 01 March 2018 - 07:56 PM, said:

Dolmen 2.0, on 01 March 2018 - 07:50 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 01 March 2018 - 07:16 PM, said:

I got 2 fascists cards and 1 liberal. I passed 1 of each.

Confirmed. Enacted Liberal.

Good man Charlie brown. Dolmen is verified liberal.

I hate to be pedantic but he's only confirmed non-Hitler.

Sure you wouldn't expect a fascist to pass liberal but they could.

[Tattersail_]

No Mess. Two groups of poss fascists among D'rek and me, Nom and Nevyn.

[Nevyn]

I really need to go read through some of your mafia threads.

Someone must have pulled off some really elaborate cons to get you all THIS paranoid.

Dolmen passing 3 liberal policies (one as pres, 2 as chancellor) as a regular fascist is just ...

[Tattersail_]

Nevyn, on 01 March 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

I really need to go read through some of your mafia threads.

Someone must have pulled off some really elaborate cons to get you all THIS paranoid.

Dolmen passing 3 liberal policies (one as pres, 2 as chancellor) as a regular fascist is just ...

I agree Dol is 100 percent liberal.

Mess might be carrying shade as possible Hitler

[Nevyn]

Tattersail_, on 01 March 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

I agree Dol is 100 percent liberal.

Mess might be carrying shade as possible Hitler

Here we go again, you guys are exhausting.

How on earth is Messremb Hitler? He made the president that made that government.

[Tattersail_]

Nevyn, on 01 March 2018 - 09:58 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 01 March 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

I agree Dol is 100 percent liberal.

Mess might be carrying shade as possible Hitler

Here we go again, you guys are exhausting.

How on earth is Messremb Hitler? He made the president that made that government.

Because he wants to be trusted to be enacted chancellor.

Why else would be say Dolmen could be fascist with the info we have.

[Nevyn]

Because like you, he's paranoid?

[Messremb]

Tattersail_, on 01 March 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

Nevyn, on 01 March 2018 - 09:58 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 01 March 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

I agree Dol is 100 percent liberal.

Mess might be carrying shade as possible Hitler

Here we go again, you guys are exhausting.

How on earth is Messremb Hitler? He made the president that made that government.

Because he wants to be trusted to be enacted chancellor.

Why else would be say Dolmen could be fascist with the info we have.

Dolmen is VPI, he's not CI. As a fascist in that position of trust, earned by being more liberal than the liberals, he's now free to justify a Chancellor from a position of trust who could be Hitler. We'd likely vote them in because we're pretty sure Dolmen is Liberal and then fascists win. Pretty simple. Christ knows that's how I'd play it - early on the player list means more likely to have 3 fascist policies down so early facist player is as liberal as possible knowing he could elect Hitler.

Same for me and Venge - we're likely liberal so best place for Hitler to be hiding. It's why I was thinking of looking elsewhere to Venge for a President just now. Do I trust him? Hell no.

[Messremb]

Nevyn, on 01 March 2018 - 10:08 PM, said:

Because like you, he's paranoid?

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.

[Vengeance]

Nevyn, on 01 March 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

I really need to go read through some of your mafia threads.

Someone must have pulled off some really elaborate cons to get you all THIS paranoid.

Dolmen passing 3 liberal policies (one as pres, 2 as chancellor) as a regular fascist is just ...

Do you see hinters post at the bottom of my sig. In malazan mafia betral is a way of life. Vendetta are created that can last for years. Some of us keep lists of hated players who you try to kill regardless of whose team they may be playing for. Because they are on your list and need to die. More then one game has been lost to rage. Which of course creates more vendettas.

[Vengeance]

Messremb, on 01 March 2018 - 10:14 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 01 March 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

Nevyn, on 01 March 2018 - 09:58 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 01 March 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

I agree Dol is 100 percent liberal.

Mess might be carrying shade as possible Hitler

Here we go again, you guys are exhausting.

How on earth is Messremb Hitler? He made the president that made that government.

Because he wants to be trusted to be enacted chancellor.

Why else would be say Dolmen could be fascist with the info we have.

Dolmen is VPI, he's not CI. As a fascist in that position of trust, earned by being more liberal than the liberals, he's now free to justify a Chancellor from a position of trust who could be Hitler. We'd likely vote them in because we're pretty sure Dolmen is Liberal and then fascists win. Pretty simple. Christ knows that's how I'd play it - early on the player list means more likely to have 3 fascist policies down so early facist player is as liberal as possible knowing he could elect Hitler.

Same for me and Venge - we're likely liberal so best place for Hitler to be hiding. It's why I was thinking of looking elsewhere to Venge for a President just now. Do I trust him? Hell no.

Well that is sad. I trust both you and Dolman. You two are the only ones I trust. If I was a fascists or Hitler I would have sent two fascists cards to Dolman and claimed I got three in the pull. But I am neither Hitler or a fascists.

If Dolman was a fascists then he would have played the rascist card because they would have been a step closer to winning with out electing Hitler. Rather then us a single card away from winning.

No Dolman is a liberal. I am a liberal and I believe that you are a liberal as well.

[Messremb]

Vengeance, on 01 March 2018 - 10:25 PM, said:

Well that is sad. I trust both you and Dolman. You two are the only ones I trust. If I was a fascists or Hitler I would have sent two fascists cards to Dolman and claimed I got three in the pull. But I am neither Hitler or a fascists.

If Dolman was a fascists then he would have played the rascist card because they would have been a step closer to winning with out electing Hitler. Rather then us a single card away from winning.

No Dolman is a liberal. I am a liberal and I believe that you are a liberal as well.

But then the next couple of sets drawn would prove you a liar so you'd have to be certain to have won by then. It'd be a gamble.

You're playing BCS Venge. What's WCS?

[Nevyn]

Vengeance, on 01 March 2018 - 10:18 PM, said:

Nevyn, on 01 March 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

I really need to go read through some of your mafia threads.

Someone must have pulled off some really elaborate cons to get you all THIS paranoid.

Dolmen passing 3 liberal policies (one as pres, 2 as chancellor) as a regular fascist is just ...

Do you see hinters post at the bottom of my sig. In malazan mafia betral is a way of life. Vendetta are created that can last for years. Some of us keep lists of hated players who you try to kill regardless of whose team they may be playing for. Because they are on your list and need to die. More then one game has been lost to rage. Which of course creates more vendettas.

Hmm, apparently there is a feature to see signatures I had turned off. As a proponent of spite play, Im all for this

This post has been edited by Nevyn: 01 March 2018 - 10:32 PM

[Nevyn]

PS> We still need to convince the liberal between tatts and drek. We can't count on a charity Ja from Cause twice.

[Cause]

Nevyn, on 01 March 2018 - 07:22 PM, said:

Cause, on 01 March 2018 - 07:18 PM, said:

Macros, on 01 March 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

nein - D'rek, Tatts, Nomnomnomnom

ja - venge, Mess, Nevyn, Dol, Cause

The "jas" have it.

pulling cards for el presidenty

WTF

Why did Drek and tats both vote no? Both fascist. Still seems unlikely since they both are working against Nevyn. but if drek is the fascist he may just be trying to keep Tatts pinned. Dolmen is obviously not hitter or we would have lost, which leaves me to suspect vengeance or messremb working with nevyn and either tats or drek

So what you were saying is you expected Dolmen to be hitler and lose you the game.

But now you think one of the others is hitler, and will defend against them by approving them as chancellors too.

Thats some next level strategy

I stated quite clearly that I viewed solemn exiting the game as a strong indicator that he was probably not Hitler. At this point the one thing we can't afford is to vote a Hitler. Thayt the winning strategy.


I know Nom is liberal
I know Nevyn is fascist
I know tats and drek are 50 50.
I held Messremb dolemn and Vengeance as 33 33 33 however mess seemed clean. But with dolmen exiting I trusted my guy. That means though that I don't trust Vengeance or Messremb as chancellors.

You often paint things in wierd ways. I know why you do it's your job to sow confusion but in your eagerness to grab the kill you contradict yourself. You said if I voted no it meant I'm fascist and if I voted yes I'm fascist. You have to claim that shit because you found me as a facist.

We have reached that point in the game though we're people need to make their own decisions and trust their gut. I beg you all to read Nevyn posts critically and see his overeagerness for the kill for what it is.

[Nevyn]

No I said you are fascist, I don't need conditionals, I investigated you.

You just said you had dolmen as 33 percent Hitler and voted for him because something came up. I'll have to remember the almost quitting ploy if it is enough for a 33 percent Hitler to get a 'liberal' vote.

[Cause]

Well macros confirmed it. I doubt the referee would aid the deception. It's an unfortunate outside influence that changed the fame but I'm going to make use of all I have to make sure we win

The only thing we can't afford is to vote Hitler as chancellor. Immediate game over. I saw an oppurtunity to get what my gut said would be a liberal chancellor and it paid off.

Nevyn your like the secret goebels but If you keep talking about your find you still won't convince me I'm fascist