[Ay Estos]

Despite his activity Jalan doesn't appear to me to have had interest in influencing outcome of the lynches in general that much, instead he stayed back - which is something that scum would be content with if they(as a team) didn't feel particularly threatened

[Jalan]

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

Your focus on my gaping mistakes is what makes me want to vote Jalan, for the sake of these mistakes being caused by carelessness, whereas Jalan has played a really focused and clean game

Interesting thing about Jalan - he keeps excusing his absence and saying when he will and when he won't be active despite being the second most active player

And this is bad of me? Normally (though perhaps not in recent games) I would be around a lot more than I've been able to this game, no matter the role I had.

You do, however, make an interesting point elsewhere. Why have two (relatively) more vocal players been kept around? The simple answer being, as you've pointed out, that one on their own would stand out more. Of course, it might also be that that's exactly the set up argument scum might keep both around for. I have so far put Eldat lower down on the suspect list as I basically feel that they've played a similar game to me. But as I said, it's a valid thing to point out nonetheless. Food for thought.

But while I applaud you and Tennes being more active now than in previous days, I also can't help but raise my eyebrows at that change in behaviour. At least Hanas has stayed consistent, I guess

[Jalan]

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Despite his activity Jalan doesn't appear to me to have had interest in influencing outcome of the lynches in general that much, instead he stayed back - which is something that scum would be content with if they(as a team) didn't feel particularly threatened

Are you actually kidding me with this? Seems you need to go back and reread. I've been pretty fucking vocal on wanting Hanas lynched in past days over other suspects, and have been first and second on that train. So this is bullshit.

[Tennes]

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Despite his activity Jalan doesn't appear to me to have had interest in influencing outcome of the lynches in general that much, instead he stayed back - which is something that scum would be content with if they(as a team) didn't feel particularly threatened

You are hopping around a ton. Pointing fingers everywhere and adding in a little bit of stawmanning to boot. That isn't usual town play on D day.

You just jumped up to the top of my scum list. Now who is your partner.

[Tennes]

Jalan, on 19 December 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Despite his activity Jalan doesn't appear to me to have had interest in influencing outcome of the lynches in general that much, instead he stayed back - which is something that scum would be content with if they(as a team) didn't feel particularly threatened

Are you actually kidding me with this? Seems you need to go back and reread. I've been pretty fucking vocal on wanting Hanas lynched in past days over other suspects, and have been first and second on that train. So this is bullshit.

I agree with you. Ay is starting to smell like someone who is really going trying to get someone..anyone else lynched.

[Eldat Pressen]

Umm, yeah. If there's one thing I remember about Jalan is that he started cases first on Aranatha, and then on Hanas.

You're really reaching there, Ay

[Ay Estos]

I might be reaching cause there's so little to say about Jalan without having to reach somehow *shrug*

And right now I think you are more likely town than scum

How much time left anyway?

[Ay Estos]

Tennes, on 19 December 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

Jalan, on 19 December 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

Despite his activity Jalan doesn't appear to me to have had interest in influencing outcome of the lynches in general that much, instead he stayed back - which is something that scum would be content with if they(as a team) didn't feel particularly threatened

Are you actually kidding me with this? Seems you need to go back and reread. I've been pretty fucking vocal on wanting Hanas lynched in past days over other suspects, and have been first and second on that train. So this is bullshit.

I agree with you. Ay is starting to smell like someone who is really going trying to get someone..anyone else lynched.

So that's the reason why I'm pretty much ignoring half of the suspects?

[Eldat Pressen]

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

I might be reaching cause there's so little to say about Jalan without having to reach somehow *shrug*

And right now I think you are more likely town than scum

How much time left anyway?

Jus over 4 h

[Jalan]

And I've just realised that Ay has three fewer posts than me when I thought that they had way fewer, so let's put them into that 'vocal' territory too, then. And actually Tennes isn't much further behind. Really, Eldat has twice as many posts and so is in a category of their own. So putting me and Eldat together and saying 'why these two vocal players left?' doesn't actually work. It should be me, Ay, and Tennes in a group together, with Eldat and Hanas at polar ends. From that, I'm once again happier to put Eldat lower down on the list.

[Jalan]

Up to this point, I've mostly discounted Ay as well, principally because of that lynch screw up, which I just didn't see scum doing. I can't see it being a dastardly scum plot, either. So it's a screw up, and one more likely to be done by town than scum, considering Aranatha's CF (it was on Aranatha, wasn't it?). Yes, there's always the (lesser) possibility that Ay is scum AND screwed up. But it really made me look the other way for some time.

[Eldat Pressen]

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

I might be reaching cause there's so little to say about Jalan without having to reach somehow *shrug*

And right now I think you are more likely town than scum

How much time left anyway?

Also, going back to this. I'm trying to understand this post.

You are basically admitting that you don't know why you find Jalan the most suspicious (because you can't really produce any evidence), so you are "reaching" in order to come up with any reasons to lynch him.

How am I supposed to not find that scummy?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6. 4 hours and 8 minutes remaining

5 Players still alive: Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Hanas, Jalan, Tennes

3 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Hanas, Jalan, Tennes

[Ay Estos]

Jalan, on 19 December 2017 - 04:36 PM, said:

And I've just realised that Ay has three fewer posts than me when I thought that they had way fewer, so let's put them into that 'vocal' territory too, then. And actually Tennes isn't much further behind. Really, Eldat has twice as many posts and so is in a category of their own. So putting me and Eldat together and saying 'why these two vocal players left?' doesn't actually work. It should be me, Ay, and Tennes in a group together, with Eldat and Hanas at polar ends. From that, I'm once again happier to put Eldat lower down on the list.

If you wanna categorise then you should distinguish people who've been consistently vocal and those who wrote half of their posts during this day

Eldat Pressen, on 19 December 2017 - 04:42 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

I might be reaching cause there's so little to say about Jalan without having to reach somehow *shrug*

And right now I think you are more likely town than scum

How much time left anyway?

Also, going back to this. I'm trying to understand this post.

You are basically admitting that you don't know why you find Jalan the most suspicious (because you can't really produce any evidence), so you are "reaching" in order to come up with any reasons to lynch him.

How am I supposed to not find that scummy?

Cause I'm even more fucking lost

Have some work to do now

Will be back hopefully too high to care too much about losing town this game

[Tennes]

Well this is the most activity that we have had since day 1. Hanas as usual is completely missing so if he is town then we are screwed.

[Eldat Pressen]

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

Jalan, on 19 December 2017 - 04:36 PM, said:

And I've just realised that Ay has three fewer posts than me when I thought that they had way fewer, so let's put them into that 'vocal' territory too, then. And actually Tennes isn't much further behind. Really, Eldat has twice as many posts and so is in a category of their own. So putting me and Eldat together and saying 'why these two vocal players left?' doesn't actually work. It should be me, Ay, and Tennes in a group together, with Eldat and Hanas at polar ends. From that, I'm once again happier to put Eldat lower down on the list.

If you wanna categorise then you should distinguish people who've been consistently vocal and those who wrote half of their posts during this day

Eldat Pressen, on 19 December 2017 - 04:42 PM, said:

Ay Estos, on 19 December 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

I might be reaching cause there's so little to say about Jalan without having to reach somehow *shrug*

And right now I think you are more likely town than scum

How much time left anyway?

Also, going back to this. I'm trying to understand this post.

You are basically admitting that you don't know why you find Jalan the most suspicious (because you can't really produce any evidence), so you are "reaching" in order to come up with any reasons to lynch him.

How am I supposed to not find that scummy?

Cause I'm even more fucking lost

Have some work to do now

Will be back hopefully too high to care too much about losing town this game

Okay, so you're lost and you thought making a case on blatantly wrong facts would be better than admitting you have no clue?
That's definitely not how you play town on D-day.

[Eldat Pressen]

about 2 hours to go.

We should probably start voting

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6. 2 hours and 11 minutes remaining

5 Players still alive: Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Hanas, Jalan, Tennes

3 votes to lynch, 3 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Hanas, Jalan, Tennes

[Eldat Pressen]

My conclusion about today is that I would prefer to vote Ay.

Anyone else?

[Jalan]

Alright, all cards on the table then. I think it is Hanas and Ay. I previously thought Hanas and Tennes, because of the way it felt like Tennes was leading away from Hanas, but how Ay has played today has brought me around to them instead, especially in the way they backed off as soon as they were challenged by others.

Now here's the problem with this. The other day, Ay voted first for Hanas. Now all I can think to explain this, if they're partners, is that they figured Hanas might be a goner anyway (they were a lynch candidate the previous day, and have in addition wavered close to a modkill), so they got on that train feeling it was inevitable in any case, and being first would have made them look good.