[Eldat Pressen]

messed up day at work. Gonna try to catch up now

[Eldat Pressen]

Kalse, on 06 December 2017 - 01:48 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 05 December 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

Okay, so I found the laziest post of the game so far.

Thyrllan, on 04 December 2017 - 11:00 PM, said:

Here

It has only 4 letters. You know that what else has only 4 letters? "S-Y-M-P" .

Case slosed

vote Thyr

Fanderay, on 05 December 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 December 2017 - 04:13 PM, said:

Merrid, on 05 December 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 05 December 2017 - 04:59 AM, said:

:yawn:Remove Vote

Eldat Pressen, on 05 December 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

Yawn. Morning. At work, re-caffeinating. Then I'll take the look at the 2 pages we got so far, and pick which check-in post feels the most suspicious.

Eldat Pressen, on 05 December 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

Okay, so I found the laziest post of the game so far.

Thyrllan, on 04 December 2017 - 11:00 PM, said:

Here

It has only 4 letters. You know that what else has only 4 letters? "S-Y-M-P" .Case slosed vote Thyr

Vote Fanderay

Curious about this Yawn.

I like your vote on Fanderay but why are you quoting Eldat Pressen too?

Science has shown that yawning is contagious. In seriousness, it happens to be a coincidence, but what Merrid was saying was obvious, if incorrect.

Ano trying to deflect from Eldat by feigning ignorance?

Eldat Pressen, on 05 December 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

For the record, in almost every game I start at least one game-day with a "yawn" . It's kind of a thing I do.

Fandy sure feels concerned about self-preservation.

If you guys are seriously suggesting I was supposed to infer who Thyr was dumping from one 4-letter post, you are giving me waay too much credit.

Aranatha, on 05 December 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

Merrid, on 05 December 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 05 December 2017 - 04:59 AM, said:

:yawn:Remove Vote

Eldat Pressen, on 05 December 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

Yawn. Morning. At work, re-caffeinating. Then I'll take the look at the 2 pages we got so far, and pick which check-in post feels the most suspicious.

Eldat Pressen, on 05 December 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

Okay, so I found the laziest post of the game so far.

Thyrllan, on 04 December 2017 - 11:00 PM, said:

Here

It has only 4 letters. You know that what else has only 4 letters? "S-Y-M-P" .Case slosed vote Thyr

Vote Fanderay

Curious about this Yawn.

I've been rereading this to see what was bothering me about it.
You know what else is a 4-letter word? Yawn.
And why is it capitalized at the end of the only sentence?
The : emoji : words are not always obvious either. Sure, the coincidence is there, but not in writing - until Merrid points it out by disabling the emoji icon in his quote - matching spelling, case, etc., unlike Fandy's emoji.

It almost, almost reads like a symp signalling via making a case about a symp signalling...

Merrid is either extremely smart to catch such a subtle link or extremely lucky. Lucky is fine, smart can be dangerous. If anything, I think we overreacted to the "obviousness" of the coincidence. Difficult to say on day 1. Removing for now.

Remove Vote

Eldat Pressen, on 06 December 2017 - 01:04 AM, said:

remove vote




The Thyr vote was always a joke, though people clearly didn't get it. Ah well




I'll be heading out in about half an hour or so. Gonna

vote Fanderay

because a lynch is better than no-lynch.

There's always a 2/15 chance that Merrid's ridiculous case randomed on a scum.

Ok so from these posts a few things stick out to me

EP was apparently starting to play a bit of an "eager town" role with his vote on Thyr, but then when Merrid made the Fandy case he changed his play somewhat. What really irks me about him is the line about self-preservation. I see nothing wrong with a Townie trying to protect himself from a BS day 1 case.

Also included is Aranatha who I think played a major role in the Fandy train by pushing the Yawn case.

To address the part about me:

That was my early impression to the case. I often find myself in Randy's situation, and I found that harping on what a shit case it is is not the most productive thing to do. Mentioning it once and then moving on to offer alternatives is a best way to diffuse these situations.

Day 1 lynches for crap reasons happen. As an RI, I don't see much point arguing them ever, unless you can clearly see someone masterminding something with you as a target.

Fandy actually started playing it much more "town-like" later on, which is why I wasn't exactly enthused about his eventual lynch.

[Eldat Pressen]

Hanas, on 06 December 2017 - 04:09 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 06 December 2017 - 05:15 AM, said:

So where does that leave us?

The person I supposedly "symped" is inno

The person that caught my "signal" and some suggested was symping me is dead.




ANd I think they were the lover? "everyone likes Raymond bacon, rite?




sorrys, I was out. A friend's actual b-day was tonight, so we had a practice run before the actual party on Fri... so I'm kinda tipsy. On a work night.




The logical thing for the thread would be to assume I'm somehow stuck in the middle of this fiasco. And should be removed, so I don't become a lingering distraction.

meanwhile, we need to look completely outside the box that's being formed by the day 1 crap, because that's where the scum are.

Ugh. Don't try to play the "woe is me card", that's far scummier than anything else you've done.

Otherwise, it is nearly impossible to get a read on Tennes. Few comments and a vote? Reads like lazy town to me, but I could be wrong.

Kalse has joined the game well and Ruse is a non-character at this point.

Rest assured, I'm not pulling a JPK or anything.

[Eldat Pressen]

Anyway, my play-time is limited, and no one's around.

vote Ay Estos

For the scummy as fuck drive-by vote.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 19 hours and 50 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Osseric, Ruse, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )
1 Vote for Kalse ( Anomandaris )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Okaros, Osseric, Ruse, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

[Hanas]

Jalan, on 06 December 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

Kalse, on 06 December 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 05 December 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 December 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Ah, I thought you were accusing Fanderay of being something due to the remove vote. Interesting take on the Eldat post.

I think his point about the remove vote was the YAWN. Yawn emoticon, followed by the word "Yawn." Signaling? I think Merrid may have a point, because EP does seem to be both deflecting and pushing for another target...but then he says he thinks the target is a symp. When would you ever vote the symp over the master? That's probably enough for me to lay a vote there but I'm gonna read a bit more

Aranatha, on 05 December 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 05 December 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

Well I really don't want to be out on the first day due to someone else's coincidental post so I'll try to provide an alternative.

Vote Eldat Pressen

Can you say anything about EP symping or fake symping you along with your airtight vote? I know it's day 1, I just have questions - you say you're just providing any alternative, but why say "someone else's coincidental post"? It's not coincidence. It looks like he is symping you. I realize you may be dismissing the "yawn" link as coincidence when you're under fire but it may take more than just a vote to clear that up

But really, if it's just OMGUS, cool and all. From the count I think this is L-4

Vote Fanderay

Aranatha, on 05 December 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

Merrid, on 05 December 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 05 December 2017 - 04:59 AM, said:

:yawn:Remove Vote

Eldat Pressen, on 05 December 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

Yawn. Morning. At work, re-caffeinating. Then I'll take the look at the 2 pages we got so far, and pick which check-in post feels the most suspicious.

Eldat Pressen, on 05 December 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

Okay, so I found the laziest post of the game so far.

Thyrllan, on 04 December 2017 - 11:00 PM, said:

Here

It has only 4 letters. You know that what else has only 4 letters? "S-Y-M-P" .Case slosed vote Thyr

Vote Fanderay

Curious about this Yawn.

I've been rereading this to see what was bothering me about it.
You know what else is a 4-letter word? Yawn.
And why is it capitalized at the end of the only sentence?
The : emoji : words are not always obvious either. Sure, the coincidence is there, but not in writing - until Merrid points it out by disabling the emoji icon in his quote - matching spelling, case, etc., unlike Fandy's emoji.

It almost, almost reads like a symp signalling via making a case about a symp signalling...

Merrid is either extremely smart to catch such a subtle link or extremely lucky. Lucky is fine, smart can be dangerous. If anything, I think we overreacted to the "obviousness" of the coincidence. Difficult to say on day 1. Removing for now.

Remove Vote

Ok, so I may have misread Aranatha.

While he did come on quite strong early on regarding the Fandy case, he later started having doubts and jumped off.

So while his late vote on Ruse is still quite odd, it does not seem as scummy anymore to me.

Anomandaris also comes off as the enthusiastic Town.

I think that if scum was on the train, we will find them among the silent ones - Tennes and Ay Estos. Also I will be keeping a very close eye on Osseric.

Just responding to one point here - Anomandaris always seems like enthusiastic town, so I wouldn't read too much into that just yet.

Edit: Actually, no, two points. Your assessment of Aranatha would actually make me more suspicious of them, not less. Backing off the Fanderay case more strongly the more it seems like an inevitability (and therefore safer to back off with no actual impact on diverting it from a lynch). Fair enough if you can present a case you believe in more strongly...but to vote for Ruse instead?

Your first post sounds like meta, and I suck at meta, so I'm not going to touch that with a 10 foot pole.

I have to agree with the second point. The Ruse votes were weird and not helpful. I didn't vote because I didn't like the case, but I also didn't vote for a non-poster to try to pretend to be useful. It was strange and I called it out at the time.

[Aranatha]

I have a minute and this is what I see in the last few pages.

Jalan, on 06 December 2017 - 12:35 AM, said:

Why not just vote Merrid straight away?

Fandy has been quite calm and helpful ever since they were put on the chopping block.

First, that is an odd thing to say about Merrid. I realize you were responding to his comment, but he didn't vote Merrid. Merrid basically created the yawn case that consumed day 1, he wasn't really under suspicion. It is odd for you to suggest so casually that someone else vote for him, especially since he ended up being roled town.

Second, your position on Fandy makes you sound like a sociopath, but you don't mention voting him until your next post, where you add some waffling around so it doesn't look odd when you hammer him later. You even say you are going to vote Fandy - but you don't. It's a lot of bullshit padding like "I might be right, but maybe not!" Then you start to talk about me.

Jalan, on 06 December 2017 - 12:43 AM, said:

I think I like an Aranatha vote, but I'm not going to get that lynch so I will be voting for Fanderay. It is very rare that this kind of case actually obtains a positive result for town, but who knows, this could be that one time.

As for Aranatha, their play so far has felt...knowledgeable. They've doubted the Fanderay case and now have come out with an alternate who isn't around to respond or fight back. I don't think they're in cahoots with Fandy, but rather setting them up for a final vote push by coming out with a vote elsewhere and so looking like they're deflecting from Fandy - a defence of sorts, the final nail in the coffin for many a lynch.

I'll be around for a bit, but I think this train is set on Fandy. As I said, there is still potential there for it to be right. It's not what arouses my main suspicions at this moment, but then when have I ever been right anyway.

Ironic that this is about me but I really don't like the way the underlined above tries so hard to paint ANYONE as some kind of mastermind pulling strings on...day 1. Seriously? Way too much detail, you try really hard to be convincing by (for once) sounding suddenly very unsure about things. Sounds more like an accidental reveal than an accusation. Then at the end you say even though you suspect me the most, it's not really a big deal because "you're never right". You wouldn't want to vote off the train and look like you were deflecting, now would you? (Ahem.) Scum often try to project because they know more than everyone else, and this is enough to ping my scumdar.

20 minutes after Fandy is put at L-1 (with 3 hours left still), Jalan hammers:

Jalan, on 06 December 2017 - 01:26 AM, said:

Off to bed now, don't see much reason to delay this any further. Fingers crossed then.

Remove Vote

Vote Fanderay

Funny that Fandy said this:

Fanderay, on 06 December 2017 - 01:02 AM, said:

I hope not. Finding out who the hammer will be is information.

So, after all this, Fandy turns up RI. What do you know. Anyone who still thinks scum would so obviously deflect from an RI with 5 of 8 votes and only a few hours left on day 1 is a fucking moron.

In fact, that's pretty much all I have to say about Ruse, too. People are wondering why I voted for him, instead of why he wasn't modkilled after the 36 hour timer and no explanation from Ruse or P-S. You guys can do math, right? Ruse missed the timer. Fortunately, he wasn't modkilled for unknown reasons and that's good - modkills don't give a CF, even if Ruse isn't playing at all. Unfortunately, it makes me look like an asshole because even though I was right and Ruse didn't show, nothing happened. But this is all ancillary to Jalan.

Enough for a vote.

Vote Jalan

[Jalan]

Nice of you to take that first post entirely out of the context, that he had gone on about Merrid but then voted elsewhere, so it's a simple question, why not just vote for Merrid straight off if that's where the suspicion for them lies?

Second, you've done a messy job of trying to misrepresent my posts before OMGUS voting for me - hit a nerve with you have I? A little panicky already? Don't think I've seen an OMGUS before a vote has even hit before. I knew I'd hit something with you, just had that strong feeling from the moment you started posting.

So, to take it apart:

- Yes, I said I would vote for Fandy, thus making my intentions clear. That is not waffling. Why not vote straight away? Because I knew my vote would be close to hammer if not the hammer itself, and I would be around for the next few hours, so I allowed the time for potential last-minute hijinks There weren't, so I laid down my vote just before going to bed. Seems absurdly sensible to me.

- The "I'm never right'" concerned the Fanderay case, not you, so that's a misreading on your part.

- What's fascinating here is that you're accusing me of EXACTLY what I've accused you of already, acting too knowledgeable. Interesting that you chose not to include that post of mine among the ones above. See, for example, your picking apart of the Fanderay case. And above you have the gall to say that my post has 'way too much detail'? You're talking about your own posts there mate.

- Are you actually citing a dead man's musings as evidence for my guilt? That's really weak reaching. But then I have a feeling you would have used that post to make a case on just about anyone who hammered.

- Yes, Fandy turns up RI. What do you know? Well, seems you knew, judging by your play.

- And finally, wow. Just wow about what you say at the end on Ruse. Talk about painting a target on their back. In fact, that is now the only thing holding me back from voting immediately for you, because that comes across as more sympish than killer. Let's see if we can't find your masters shall we?

[Okaros]

I feel slighted that Kalse just treated me like I wasn't even here.

But truth is I didn't have much time today and haven't the time tonight to add any meaning full content. Tomorrow looks much better time wise for me.

[Skintick]

Back.

[Ruse]

Path-Shaper, on 06 December 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

Hrmmm, I completely missed that post... Alright, please pretend I never did that!

ahh geeze, well it is good to be back in the land of the living

[Hanas]

Ruse, on 07 December 2017 - 01:13 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 December 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

Hrmmm, I completely missed that post... Alright, please pretend I never did that!

ahh geeze, well it is good to be back in the land of the living

Zombie!!

[Skintick]

Fanderay, on 05 December 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

Well Ano, it's not looking good for me so I want to get this on thread for humor sake, and I know it doesn't fit your parameters, but oh well.

Anomandaris, on 05 December 2017 - 06:19 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 05 December 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 December 2017 - 06:06 PM, said:

Why would two players use the same wording? The second player signalling the first is most obvious. On purpose or misdirection? Needs to be tested.

Yawning is an often used expression at the beginning of our games, but I couldn't fault you for doing so, honestly.

Can I get an example, same game, day 1, two people yawning?

For the sake of time I'll just show the previous games where "yawn" was used.

Game 146.5
Game 144
Game 141.5
Game 139.5
Game 127
Game 114
Game 111
Game 103
Game 100

That's 10 games since D'rek's mindfuck Game 100. I'm not disagreeing with you. On day 1, we don't have much to go on, and trying to pick up an attempted signal in a symp game is a great tactic, but this isn't the case. Yawn is generically used.

Fake news. I'd like to see an actual count on yawns. *yawn*

[Ruse]

Hanas, on 07 December 2017 - 01:19 AM, said:

Ruse, on 07 December 2017 - 01:13 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 December 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

Hrmmm, I completely missed that post... Alright, please pretend I never did that!

ahh geeze, well it is good to be back in the land of the living

Zombie!!

I prefer reanimated individual

[Skintick]

Path-Shaper, on 06 December 2017 - 02:02 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 38 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Okaros, Osseric, Ruse, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ruse ( Aranatha )
8 Votes for Fanderay ( Merrid, Okaros, Anomandaris, Tennes, Ay Estos, Osseric, Eldat Pressen, Jalan )
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Skintick )
1 Vote for Eldat Pressen ( Fanderay )

Players not voted: Hanas, Kalse, Ruse, Thyrllan


Fanderay has been lynched. He was Brujah and a Slab of Meat.

So let me get this straight... WHY did you sheeple lynch fanderay. OTHER THAN to take away his unlynchable legend.

[Skintick]

Path-Shaper, on 06 December 2017 - 02:02 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 38 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Okaros, Osseric, Ruse, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ruse ( Aranatha )
8 Votes for Fanderay ( Merrid, Okaros, Anomandaris, Tennes, Ay Estos, Osseric, Eldat Pressen, Jalan )
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Skintick )
1 Vote for Eldat Pressen ( Fanderay )

Players not voted: Hanas, Kalse, Ruse, Thyrllan


Fanderay has been lynched. He was Brujah and a Slab of Meat.

Merrid is just An idiot here. Looking at Ano, Tennes and Ay for getting the memento going

[Skintick]

Reteading it, I think the fanderay lynch was just a failure, it I do plan to look harder at Ay, Ano and Tennes. Did Gusty ruffle anyone's feathers?

[Hanas]

Skintick, on 07 December 2017 - 02:14 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 December 2017 - 02:02 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 38 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Fanderay, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Okaros, Osseric, Ruse, Skintick, Tennes, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ruse ( Aranatha )
8 Votes for Fanderay ( Merrid, Okaros, Anomandaris, Tennes, Ay Estos, Osseric, Eldat Pressen, Jalan )
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Skintick )
1 Vote for Eldat Pressen ( Fanderay )

Players not voted: Hanas, Kalse, Ruse, Thyrllan


Fanderay has been lynched. He was Brujah and a Slab of Meat.

So let me get this straight... WHY did you sheeple lynch fanderay. OTHER THAN to take away his unlynchable legend.

I had no idea Gem was back. There was a welcome absence of that term.

Otherwise, of those on the train Tennes and Osseric's drive bys stand out the most.

[Anomandaris]

Interesting no one agrees with me on Kalse.

[Anomandaris]

If we're going to get a lynch today then we need to coordinate soon.