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Mafia 146.5 - Meat vs Potatoes Standard two killers, symp, town roles.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:26 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 29 November 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

Don't fancy that, requires more time than I'd think i'll have, just standard game would be cool.


This ^
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 06:52 PM

W.a.l.k.a.w.a.y S.c.u.m. W.i.n.

Town has enough trouble with regular set-ups, let alone this set-up.

Town loses in 4 days.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 06:57 PM

View PostH. D., on 29 November 2017 - 06:52 PM, said:

W.a.l.k.a.w.a.y S.c.u.m. W.i.n.

Town has enough trouble with regular set-ups, let alone this set-up.

Town loses in 4 days.


I mean, clearly people don't want me to run it, so I won't, but I think that you're over exaggerating a little bit. The SK certainly helps to mitigate any advantage that scum may have. I'd really like to run that setup one day, just to see!
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 07:03 PM

It'd need to be run as a high TMDI with clear guidelines.

If the serial killer chooses town? 2 kills a night and it becomes a scum v. SK game.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 07:09 PM

View PostH. D., on 29 November 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

It'd need to be run as a high TMDI with clear guidelines.

If the serial killer chooses town? 2 kills a night and it becomes a scum v. SK game.


Sure, which is why it could only be run with a big enough group - i.e. at least 14 players. A proper non-mini game should last around 5-6 game days.

With 14 players, and 2 deaths per night, WCS DDay is on Day 4. If one scum or the SK is hit in the first four days, DDay gets pushed back, and then there are the town abilities that could help push that back as well.
I think it's reasonable to expect such a game to last AT LEAST 5 days, and up to 7 or 8 with a pretty good chance for town to win.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 07:21 PM

Keep it simple for this game. We just finished a complex game and need a palate cleanse. Furthermore, we have that newbie that I really don't want scared away.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 07:26 PM

View PostGust Hubb, on 29 November 2017 - 07:21 PM, said:

Keep it simple for this game. We just finished a complex game and need a palate cleanse. Furthermore, we have that newbie that I really don't want scared away.


But scaring newbies is what I do best!

Alright, well, at 14 players, I'll be looking at 2 scum and a symp against 2-3 town roles and 8-9 RIs.

I may go either lovers and a healer, or a healer, a guard and a vig.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 07:28 PM

Lol. Thanks Blend. I appreciate your enthusiasm though. Save it for the next game and we can have a betting pool of you versus HD.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:08 PM

I want a TMDI 10 WIFOM nightmare.

You know, just tossing that out there.
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:30 PM

View PostKurt Montandon, on 29 November 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

I want a TMDI 10 WIFOM nightmare.

You know, just tossing that out there.


LoL - you'll have to join us for a D&D Mafia one day. You want a complex game, those are about as complex as I've gotten! :p
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 01:14 AM

View PostI N, on 29 November 2017 - 07:13 AM, said:

View PostAmeliaPond, on 29 November 2017 - 01:15 AM, said:

I'm in


Welcome another one of Gust's necromantic experiments!

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 02:45 AM

View PostKurt Montandon, on 29 November 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

I want a TMDI 10 WIFOM nightmare.

You know, just tossing that out there.


Seconded!
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 08:32 AM

You in this game Bruj
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 09:51 AM

Yes, I'll play.
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 09:55 AM

View PostBrujah, on 30 November 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

Yes, I'll play.


Great. Have you ever been lynched? I know you went a few games without, is this still the case?
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 05:45 PM

So uhh... I'm going to be an initially low poster probably as the arrival of the babies has been brought forward to Monday from Tuesday if you start next week.
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 05:56 PM

AKA, Mess is out for this game! Babies have a tendency to, you know, eat up time.

Lol.
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Posted 03 December 2017 - 07:47 AM

So Blend, you got everything under control?
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Posted 03 December 2017 - 04:20 PM

Yep yep - will be starting it tomorrow! :p
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 03:27 PM

Alright, will have game up and running within an hour or so!
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I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
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