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Mafia 145.9 - Scumhunt Game Thread

#161 User is offline   Jalan 

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:02 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 26 October 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Finally, combine that with his Broken Empire talk, focusing on the second trilogy, who's primary p.o.v. character is none other than Prince Jalan Kendeth. So many things from Aradatha end of D1, just don't line up right in my eyes.

Also, I'm really hoping this makes sense. I've had to pull several surprise 12hr graveyard shifts over the last three nights and have netted 12hours of sleep combined in the last 96 hours.


Wait, what the fuck? No way would town be fake symping. Also, never read any of the series so totally passed me by. Who started talking about the books? Till I look,

Vote Aranatha

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:06 PM

Eldat Pressen started it.

View PostEldat Pressen, on 25 October 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

Anyone read The Broken Empire trilogies? If not, I definitely recommend. I enjoyed the first trilogy but this second one is even better. Red Queen's War, The Liar's Key, excellent.


Teamwork here guys?

Currently good on a EP or an Aranatha vote. I will not be here for timeout. Off work today and pub soon so I should check in later but will probably be only to vote if needed as I mash drunken chubby fingers madly against the phone.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:06 PM

View PostJalan, on 26 October 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 26 October 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Finally, combine that with his Broken Empire talk, focusing on the second trilogy, who's primary p.o.v. character is none other than Prince Jalan Kendeth. So many things from Aradatha end of D1, just don't line up right in my eyes.

Also, I'm really hoping this makes sense. I've had to pull several surprise 12hr graveyard shifts over the last three nights and have netted 12hours of sleep combined in the last 96 hours.


Wait, what the fuck? No way would town be fake symping. Also, never read any of the series so totally passed me by. Who started talking about the books? Till I look,

Vote Aranatha


Why?

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:08 PM

It is Day 2. 9 hours and 11 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Jalan )
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Eldat Pressen )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Kalse, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#165 User is offline   Jalan 

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:08 PM

View PostSkintick, on 26 October 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 26 October 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 26 October 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Finally, combine that with his Broken Empire talk, focusing on the second trilogy, who's primary p.o.v. character is none other than Prince Jalan Kendeth. So many things from Aradatha end of D1, just don't line up right in my eyes.

Also, I'm really hoping this makes sense. I've had to pull several surprise 12hr graveyard shifts over the last three nights and have netted 12hours of sleep combined in the last 96 hours.


Wait, what the fuck? No way would town be fake symping. Also, never read any of the series so totally passed me by. Who started talking about the books? Till I look,

Vote Aranatha


Why?


Concentrating on a particular book where a principal character has the same name as a game alt?

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:43 PM

View PostJalan, on 26 October 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen started it.

View PostEldat Pressen, on 25 October 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

Anyone read The Broken Empire trilogies? If not, I definitely recommend. I enjoyed the first trilogy but this second one is even better. Red Queen's War, The Liar's Key, excellent.


Teamwork here guys?

Currently good on a EP or an Aranatha vote. I will not be here for timeout. Off work today and pub soon so I should check in later but will probably be only to vote if needed as I mash drunken chubby fingers madly against the phone.


why teamwork? You seem to be consciously ignoring the fact of the lover convo off thread. There is no need for the 3 scum to interact. No symps, no signaling. This game will more than likely not match any traditional patterns.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:05 PM

Well now that you point it out, I don't see a reason not to vote you then Jalan. Could be that he is one of your partners, or maybe he is a finder. Either way, I think you are scum.




vote Jalan

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:08 PM

View PostKalse, on 26 October 2017 - 05:43 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 26 October 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen started it.

View PostEldat Pressen, on 25 October 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

Anyone read The Broken Empire trilogies? If not, I definitely recommend. I enjoyed the first trilogy but this second one is even better. Red Queen's War, The Liar's Key, excellent.


Teamwork here guys?

Currently good on a EP or an Aranatha vote. I will not be here for timeout. Off work today and pub soon so I should check in later but will probably be only to vote if needed as I mash drunken chubby fingers madly against the phone.


why teamwork? You seem to be consciously ignoring the fact of the lover convo off thread. There is no need for the 3 scum to interact. No symps, no signaling. This game will more than likely not match any traditional patterns.


Because they agree on a strategy off-thread to deploy on-thread...?

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:09 PM

View PostSkintick, on 26 October 2017 - 06:05 PM, said:

Well now that you point it out, I don't see a reason not to vote you then Jalan. Could be that he is one of your partners, or maybe he is a finder. Either way, I think you are scum.




vote Jalan


So what is your reason for voting me huh? At least do better than a driveby.

Also, to the pub now. I'm happy on Aranatha for the moment.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:28 PM

remove vote

Vote Jalan


If he turns up scum then 100% I'm finding Ay Estos scum. Chainsaw Defense from day 1.

Regarding The Broken Empire, I am onto The Wheel of Osheim.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:37 PM

It is Day 2. 7 hours and 42 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Jalan )
2 Votes for Jalan ( Skintick, Eldat Pressen )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Kalse, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:26 PM

Damn I missed him

Jalan said the D1 train will be interesting to look at and that he'll look up Merrid and Tennes because of their position on train

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View PostEldat Pressen, on 24 October 2017 - 08:23 PM, said:

You'd think with three scum a lynch of scum would be alot more difficult which is another reason I favour my vote. Most people have shown inclination to vote Dejim.


That depends. Throwing him under the bus as distancing. The train will certainly be interesting to look at, as well as those who haven't voted. Tennes and Merrid made the train the likely lynch, I'll look them up when I get on a computer.


Then without ever acknowledging the train or Merrid(he only mentioned Merrid when responding to Kalse's pairings) with Tennes on thread again he votes for me based on this? I find the sudden change in attitude scummy, like he saw I was getting heat so he went for the easy opening.

View PostJalan, on 26 October 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen started it.

View PostEldat Pressen, on 25 October 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

Anyone read The Broken Empire trilogies? If not, I definitely recommend. I enjoyed the first trilogy but this second one is even better. Red Queen's War, The Liar's Key, excellent.


Teamwork here guys?

Currently good on a EP or an Aranatha vote. I will not be here for timeout. Off work today and pub soon so I should check in later but will probably be only to vote if needed as I mash drunken chubby fingers madly against the phone.


View PostJalan, on 26 October 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 26 October 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Finally, combine that with his Broken Empire talk, focusing on the second trilogy, who's primary p.o.v. character is none other than Prince Jalan Kendeth. So many things from Aradatha end of D1, just don't line up right in my eyes.

Also, I'm really hoping this makes sense. I've had to pull several surprise 12hr graveyard shifts over the last three nights and have netted 12hours of sleep combined in the last 96 hours.


Wait, what the fuck? No way would town be fake symping. Also, never read any of the series so totally passed me by. Who started talking about the books? Till I look,

Vote Aranatha


And you thought Eldat's and Merrid's cases made no sense...

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:33 PM

See it happens!

View PostNimander Golit, on 26 October 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

Aradatha


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:42 PM

View PostMerrid, on 26 October 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 26 October 2017 - 04:30 PM, said:

Ok I went back to bed. Thank god other people are posting, otherwise this would be a boring conversation.

Merrid, you still don't make any sense to me. Glad to see Kalse has joined the game, but where are these pairs coming from? I'd like some more info on this one.

The people at Starbucks are disturbingly chipper.



I'm afraid that then you're just being obtuse. There's not much I can do to help you. You will have try and make the effort yourself.


Repeating "you make no sense" without any specifics is just useless

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:49 PM

View PostEldat Pressen, on 26 October 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

Vote Jalan[/b]

If he turns up scum then 100% I'm finding Ay Estos scum. Chainsaw Defense from day 1.


After you tied Jalan and Ay with your chainsaw argument, Jalan becomes Ay's top suspect:

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View PostSkintick, on 26 October 2017 - 03:17 AM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 26 October 2017 - 03:12 AM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 25 October 2017 - 11:21 PM, said:

At this point, neither Eldat's or Merrid's cases are making any sense to me, which in turn is making them both look scummy.


I agree that their cases don't make sense, but I don't think they're scummy because of it. It's just that they're trying to do something useful with very little info to go on. An admirable sentiment all things considered.

Then do you have any better ideas?


Honestly? Jalan.

Specifically, this post of theirs directed at me:

View PostJalan, on 25 October 2017 - 02:15 AM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 25 October 2017 - 02:09 AM, said:

Vote DN


Whose Nejim, Aranatha?


Hoping to stall a lynch on a technicality Ay?


Like, I don't remember the last time PS didn't count a vote because the weird ass Malaz name wasn't spelled correctly (I don't actually remember that ever happening). Jalan's comment just jumped out to me as scum being a little bit to overzealous in his townie act.

Though I admit I may be a little bit biased; cause I obviously knew I meant my question as a fun jab.


That's not much of a reason to make somsone your top suspect imho, I could easily see it as distancing

Otoh Ay himself says just before this that there's little info to go by at this point

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View PostSkintick, on 25 October 2017 - 11:21 PM, said:

At this point, neither Eldat's or Merrid's cases are making any sense to me, which in turn is making them both look scummy.


I agree that their cases don't make sense, but I don't think they're scummy because of it. It's just that they're trying to do something useful with very little info to go on. An admirable sentiment all things considered.


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:57 PM

View PostKalse, on 26 October 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Ah, I see, in the middle of the book.

Distancing. I anticipate this is going to be a whole new level of fuck over with 3 tripleted, lover style scum (can't we just call it what it is, menage trios). There is extra reserve, so throwing one to the lynch is no big deal. Which means if someone actually hits scum, it is not because they are town. It is just that they can be more cavalier in lynching one of their own.

That is why I said distancing. Makes sense to create 3 different personas at different extremes to both sow confusion and make it hard to develop any evidence in connections. So, this game, what I have been looking for is people who seem to be trying too hard to make their differences and antagonism known. One of those pairs is probably scum in my humble opinion.


Kalse took his time with posting some proper thoughts, was he saving them only to post them when someone called him out so he could coast for as long as possible? (I know how y'all like those questions :rolleyes:)

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:20 PM

Because of his sudden change of attitude and possible distancing from Ay, also because the only other viable-looking lynch is me and we're running out of time

Vote Kalan

I mean

Remove vote

Vote Jalan


gonna be around for little longer

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:27 PM

The more I look at this game, the more it becomes apparent with the current setup (3 Killers with off thread comms), trying to use the trains to find the scum is pointless. They can pick and choose who is on each train. I think we need to look at who is being pushy and who is flying below the radar. To be honest I am quite well pissed at this point. (4 pints and two shots) but I'm trying to help as best I can. Someone said that it was good that Mac was lynched because he would not want to be around at end game with whatever it was because he would be an easy target. I going to try and find that ans that is where I will vote. Anyone making an inno lynch try to sound like a good idea tends to be scum.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:30 PM

View PostJalan, on 25 October 2017 - 06:32 PM, said:

View PostEldat Pressen, on 25 October 2017 - 03:01 PM, said:

I do wonder if the lynch of Dejim, the lack of other options and the kill of Thyr was protection of Jalan or Tennes but based off the votes and the train I still want to vote Ay Estos.



Vote Ay Estos






Kalse, why did you think that Dejim's vote on Jalan was distancing?

Does anyone find value in scum not wanting to lynch Dejim? ie why Aranatha did what they did? If Osseric was not around then the lynch would have failed.

What are people's thoughts on the reasoning for Dejim's votes? ie those who voted for the signalling comments compared to those who voted for his not questioning the question mark.


I'm not sure why I or anyone else would need protecting from a Mac OMGUS vote.

I'm still not sure what your issue with Ay is.

I think my reasoning was pretty good for D1. It looked like a slip, very early in game. Of course it was wrong but hindsight is all well and good. Also can you imaging going into endgame with that hanging over him? He further compounded the mistake with the signalling which on an "obvious setup" shouldn't have been there.

Value to scum not wanting to lynch him is obviously because if he then went to endgame he'd be a pretty easy case to drive through.


If you're positing that Aranatha messed up spelling because they're scum then why aren't you voting for them?


I've had a shit days sleep and have started early on the coffee as a result, don't expect too much in the way of coherence from me till later in the Day.


found it

Vote Jalan

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:39 PM

Well

I'm not sure if you'd come on here 7 European night hours before timeout and say you're going to vote for whoever it was that said x if you didn't know who it was, chances that we would get a lynch of a random person at this point are rather slim so I don't like his vote at all. It could still be distancing for similar reasons that Ay's vote might be.

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