[Tennes]

Kalse, any thoughts?

[Tennes]

both cases are thin.

I'd be leaning towards testing Jalan, but the math is not good

vote Aranatha

I'm still around till timeout, if anyone has other suggestions.

[Tennes]

and that's time. Fuck.

Sigh, see you all tomorrow.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 37 minutes since time out

10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Skintick, Eldat Pressen, Aranatha )
5 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Jalan, Osseric, Nimander Golit, Tennes )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Kalse


Day times out without a lynch.

[Path-Shaper]

Osseric has been killed. He was a Roleless Innocent and Bubba.


It is Day 3. 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Skintick, Tennes

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Skintick, Tennes

[Eldat Pressen]

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2017 - 02:57 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 37 minutes since time out

10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Skintick, Eldat Pressen, Aranatha )
5 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Jalan, Osseric, Nimander Golit, Tennes )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Kalse


Day times out without a lynch.

To not get a fucking lynch means one of these was scum. Must be. Need to read up after I left

[Eldat Pressen]

It's a bit mean that both timeouts have been in the middle of the night, i've got my vote early enough but would obviously change to get the lynch, only not when I am fucking sleeping.

[Eldat Pressen]

Osseric, on 26 October 2017 - 10:36 PM, said:

AH the rock smells what your cooking. I just reread the vote count. my voting Janal right after you, to take him to L-2 helps you out, but to apperar that it doesn't, you cast doubt on my integrity. Okay I will play bal

remove vote

vote aranatha

Now it's all even and we can leave it up to the night bears.

Oh Bubba

[Eldat Pressen]

Tennes, on 26 October 2017 - 11:20 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 26 October 2017 - 06:28 PM, said:

remove vote

Vote Jalan

If he turns up scum then 100% I'm finding Ay Estos scum. Chainsaw Defense from day 1.

Regarding The Broken Empire, I am onto The Wheel of Osheim.

And if he doesn't turn up scum, you can then vote Ay for fake-defending him. This is getting annoying.

No, when doing my analysis, a lot pointed to Jalan being scum without Ay Estos's post, so was happy to vote Jalan anyway.

[Eldat Pressen]

Honestly I had Osseric as most likely town, and was one of my better reads this game, there's shade on the rest of you. Wondering whether or not to put similar effort into today as the previous few days because no one else seems to be. So without reading up, i'll do a quick player analysis

Aranatha, almost lynch, should have been lynched


Ay Estos, didn't vote, non committal


Jalan, vote swing away, vocal at start, dropped away


Kalse, didn't vote, doesn't care


Merrid, actually had a case, started a train


Nimander Golit, drive by, quiet


Skintick, around but not pushy


Tennes, no effort, pretend vote ie could've voted with 3 hours to go meaning someone could have dropped the hammer, waited until 30 minutes to go


At the moment don't care enough to do anything else. I'll be around, I'll read up, I'll vote but i'm going to listen/watch what everyone says.


#pissedoff

[Aranatha]

Tennes, on 27 October 2017 - 01:58 AM, said:

both cases are thin.

I'd be leaning towards testing Jalan, but the math is not good

vote Aranatha

I'm still around till timeout, if anyone has other suggestions.

If you preferred Jalan, why didn't you vote earlier? That's what the fucking votes are for. You were even around till timeout, you had no reason to withhold your vote as you could always change it quickly. This reads as dishonest. And of course your excuse is Jalan's lynch being improbable, cmon you were here when there was more time left, you couldn't have possibly cared, else you'd have done something.

[Jalan]

Osseric, on 26 October 2017 - 09:27 PM, said:

The more I look at this game, the more it becomes apparent with the current setup (3 Killers with off thread comms), trying to use the trains to find the scum is pointless. They can pick and choose who is on each train. I think we need to look at who is being pushy and who is flying below the radar. To be honest I am quite well pissed at this point. (4 pints and two shots) but I'm trying to help as best I can. Someone said that it was good that Mac was lynched because he would not want to be around at end game with whatever it was because he would be an easy target. I going to try and find that ans that is where I will vote. Anyone making an inno lynch try to sound like a good idea tends to be scum.

If we didn't lynch on Day 1 we'd have gone into Day 2 convincing ourselves that Mac was scum and he wasn't lynched because the other 2 weren't getting on it. We'd have wasted D2 trying to get a lynch on Mac again. It's been seen many a time on here where the D1 lynch failure leads to god-awful play on D2. At least with the lynch D2 was clear to roll. If we hadn't lynched he'd have come up time and again - for instance round about now someone would be speculating about scum based on *two* failed lynch trains with no information available from a CF. The lynch was good, we got a CF. Now we have a lynch and a failed lynch. There was some stinky behaviour going on after I went to the pub, I'll try and find the time between packing for a long weekend, doing some housework and shopping and look at why Aranatha picked up steam and why it didn't result in a lynch.

[Jalan]

Eldat Pressen, on 27 October 2017 - 07:18 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2017 - 02:57 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 37 minutes since time out

10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Skintick, Eldat Pressen, Aranatha )
5 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Jalan, Osseric, Nimander Golit, Tennes )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Kalse


Day times out without a lynch.

To not get a fucking lynch means one of these was scum. Must be. Need to read up after I left

Also makes it likely one of the non-voters was scum too.

[Aranatha]

Jalan, on 27 October 2017 - 10:44 AM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 27 October 2017 - 07:18 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2017 - 02:57 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 37 minutes since time out

10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Skintick, Eldat Pressen, Aranatha )
5 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Jalan, Osseric, Nimander Golit, Tennes )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Kalse


Day times out without a lynch.

To not get a fucking lynch means one of these was scum. Must be. Need to read up after I left

Also makes it likely one of the non-voters was scum too.

If you lynched me there would be 8 players now instead of 9 and tommorow would be DDay (parity, not majority one, meaning there's one more inno to potentionally lynch) if we fucked up today

[Jalan]

Aranatha, on 27 October 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

Jalan, on 27 October 2017 - 10:44 AM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 27 October 2017 - 07:18 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 October 2017 - 02:57 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 37 minutes since time out

10 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Osseric, Skintick, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Jalan ( Skintick, Eldat Pressen, Aranatha )
5 Votes for Aranatha ( Merrid, Jalan, Osseric, Nimander Golit, Tennes )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Kalse


Day times out without a lynch.

To not get a fucking lynch means one of these was scum. Must be. Need to read up after I left

Also makes it likely one of the non-voters was scum too.

If you lynched me there would be 8 players now instead of 9 and tommorow would be DDay (parity, not majority one, meaning there's one more inno to potentionally lynch) if we fucked up today

I normally get scoffed at/lynched/incomprehension when I point out the odd/even rule so pardon me for not doing it this time. I am aware of this.

[Kalse]

Tennes, on 24 October 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Okay, so the Ay thing is interested. Except it's implying that Ay is defending Jalan, without actually giving an opinion on whether Jalan is scum or not- only that by virtue of "defending" him Ay is scum. On the other hand, the lizard-cat is all high and mighty about how "obvious" it is that the 3 killers all have off-thread comms, but then literally in the same paragraph he makes signalling accusations- in a game which he "obviously" realizes has no symps, and thus no need for signalling. The Jalan and Ay thing may warrant a further look (I mean from where I'm sitting, Eldat is kinda shoving Jalan into the spotlight, then switching focus to Ay), but for now I can't ignore the lizard-cat's "obvious" lack of consistency. vote Dejim Nebral Obviously

Tennes is one of the scum. Getting the feeling on EP (summ8ng up everyone's thoughts each day, hour, minute). Still working though. Give me a sec

[Kalse]

Ok, I cannot to claim to have a strategy for last night. Yesterday was feeling super off and then had stuff in the evening. Plus, I did not get a feeling that things were going anywhere with the lynch, so in a way I was watching to see how it all played out.

I have been trying to develop a hypothesis for scum in this game, especially since the traditional town algorithms are out of reach. We don't have signalling or a symp and we don't have scum pressured by the fear of imminent threat to their lover conversation. Think about it. These two elements are how we usually build cases. Distancing and signalling. I was still hoping to use the former, but, yeah...


The point: we have one lynch of an inno. And 1 stalled/failed lynch. Obviously scum had no problem letting dn die. Day 2 is harder because it was relatively easy for them to stall a lynch (Just keep both trains equal in length and if something gets outta hand, oh well. Have 2 more scum).

Tennes is playing both sides of the lynch yesterday as pointed out. Leaning Jalan, voting Aranatha and then "helping" as the lynch counter toward the end. I bet he purposely chose to be L-1 on Aranatha, which would both explain the stalled lynch (we had one in our sights) and why he chose Aranatha despite spouting Jalan.

I quoted Tennes earlier because he is setting up for sowing confusion. Chose 2 other suspects then vote for a 3rd one, and one that turns out RI, so a safe vote.

vote tennes

[Kalse]

So, if Aranatha is scum 2, I am still trying to theorize 3. I think EP is likely only because he keeps the helpful summary thing going and provides "helpful" cases which so far have both not been on scum and not been on Nks. No need to closely examine what is already dead. But again, this is my weakest thought process so far, and i am just not sure if i can detect off behavior in this individual.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 25 hours and 10 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Kalse, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Skintick, Tennes

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tennes ( Kalse )

Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eldat Pressen, Jalan, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Skintick, Tennes

[Eldat Pressen]

I hope this is you throwing a scum member under the bus Kalse, because your town play so far has not been stellar.

I'd be willing to go with your vote though after that end of day performance from them yesterday.

Vote Tennes