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Posted 31 January 2018 - 04:49 PM

I will never be angry with a company for delaying a game (for development reasons). Even if it's just strategic manoeuvring, you just know somebody in QA is shouting Huzzah! down in EA's dungeons.
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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:18 PM

View PostAlternative Goose, on 31 January 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

I will never be angry with a company for delaying a game (for development reasons). Even if it's just strategic manoeuvring, you just know somebody in QA is shouting Huzzah! down in EA's dungeons.


that only works if the publisher allows QA, instead of just sitting on the game

*cough* Sega *cough* Alpha Protocol *cough*
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:27 PM

Poor Alpha Protocol. Such a cool premsie. Such a broken game.

Wouldn't mind a second try at developing that game into a franchise, though maybe the market isn't there any longer?
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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:54 PM

View PostAlternative Goose, on 31 January 2018 - 05:27 PM, said:

Poor Alpha Protocol. Such a cool premsie. Such a broken game.

Wouldn't mind a second try at developing that game into a franchise, though maybe the market isn't there any longer?


Obsidian wants to. Sega owns the IP and does not appear interested.

Apparently, when they were initially negotiating the contract, Obsidian was supposed to keep the IP.

Then Disney cancelled a game Obsidian was supposed to make for them (don't recall what that was), so Obsidian was desperate for work, and so they allowed Sega to get the IP rights in exchange for getting the contract signed ASAP.

I think I'm actually going to replay AP once I'm done with Mankind Divided. Having had a tease of complex conspiracies, I'm really tempted to go back to a game that's mired in them, where almost everyone ends up somehow related to everyone else.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 01 February 2018 - 01:59 PM

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I will never be angry with a company for delaying a game (for development reasons). Even if it's just strategic manoeuvring, you just know somebody in QA is shouting Huzzah! down in EA's dungeons.


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 02:41 AM

Dammit Iím really bummed by this one. Drew has left Bio Ware again. This game is in trouble and thatís a damn shame.


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:31 AM

View PostThe Swampfather, on 11 March 2018 - 02:41 AM, said:

Dammit I'm really bummed by this one. Drew has left Bio Ware again. This game is in trouble and that's a damn shame.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=t1rctpPyV9Q


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 08:10 PM

"Loses"?

He left. He was hired to write, he wrote what he thought was appropriate, and left.

Here is his actual blog post statement:
http://drewkarpyshyn.com/c/?p=1068
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:33 AM

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:23 PM

So its clear that you don't understand how the gaming industry works.

While I'm not saying Anthem is going to be good, I'm saying writers helping write then going to different projects, in fact lots of people that work on games work for a couple years to get through, then their contracts are up, and they try and find different work.

This doesn't mean the game/studio/whatever is dying. It means shitty ass youtubers that also don't know anything about how those industries work make videos like this.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 02:45 PM

Also, "Bioware" is something really amorphous within EA these days. EA went through a phase where they re-named almost every studio they owned "Bioware something" to cash in on the brand.

The original, "core" Bioware (without the Dr's) is Bioware Edmonton. Bioware LA is (iirc), former Victory Games, who were RTS people that did the last few Command & Conquer games and we're supposedly making the (canceled) C&C Generals 2.

Bioware Montreal is a subsidiary studio (pretty much every big publisher has a studio in Montreal, b/c favorable tax practices, I believe).

I don't remember off the top of my head where the Visceral people ended up when that studio was shut down last year when EA canceled their Star Wars project.

I have 0 interest in Anthem, since I don't do any type of multi-player. On the other hand, EA sports is a juggernaut that means EA will never die, even if they milk the games Dice makes into oblivion. So it'll be very curious to see if EA manages to get itself out of its current creative rut when it comes to single-player games that I like, or if they'll continue to spiral somewhere on the periphery of my attention.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 06:28 AM

View PostObdigore, on 15 March 2018 - 02:23 PM, said:

So its clear that you don't understand how the Gamindustri works.


There are four nations, each with a CPU who fight each other for Shares, many moe anthropomorphisms happen, a community arises around it and lewds follow.

Am I about right?



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Posted 16 March 2018 - 01:42 PM

View PostMaark Abbott, on 16 March 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

View PostObdigore, on 15 March 2018 - 02:23 PM, said:

So its clear that you don't understand how the Gamindustri works.


There are four nations, each with a CPU who fight each other for Shares, many moe anthropomorphisms happen, a community arises around it and lewds follow.

Am I about right?


I was really hoping this was avatar parody.

The four nations lived in harmony but than the micro-transaction nation attacked.
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Posted 19 March 2018 - 12:47 PM

100% boycotting this title due to the mess that was Andromeda. They wrecked my beloved IP and left it to die and I am childishly salty about it, and this was announced right about the time they stated that they're shutting down any further work on Andromeda (which might actually be a good thing, keeps me from getting my hopes up again!).

I know I'm not adding anything to the discussion, I just wanted to share.
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Posted 19 March 2018 - 01:35 PM

Hey, you do you. If you aren't happy with a meal or the service at a restaurant you don't have to apologize for not eating there again.

Then again on the other hand I tend to look at games on a case by case basis. Years go by between projects, directors and studio leads are replaced, management changes their vision for the future of the company, etc. One bad game or even a string of them won't make me boycot anything. Games are entertainment, I don't take them overly serious in that way.
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Posted 25 March 2018 - 06:41 PM

Tangentially related, it seems Dragon Age was postponed/put on ice while EA/Bioware doubles down on Anthem:

https://www.resetera...ton-crew.31324/

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Mike Laidlaw (Dragon Age's Creative Director) confirmed the BioWare staff reassignments in his GDC panel when he was talking a bit about where the series was heading.

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Ultimately, Laidlaw felt it was time to leave BioWare behind regardless of Dragon Age's loose threads. "I wanted to try a new challenge, and I knew that [the staff reassignments] would change the date," he says. "I was going to have a very small skeleton crew, and I'm lucky because Patrick Weekes is an exceptional lead writer, Daniel Kading is an exceptional lead designer. There were two very veteran designers who could hold a vision, and it was going to move down to a very small team.

"I thought if I'm ever gonna go, this is the least disruptive time for me to leave. So I would be stunned if whatever plan I had remained completely unchanged."

Source: https://www.usgamer....-possible-story


That's a shame. I really enjoyed Inquisition and was looking forward to seeing them build on that games strengths.
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Posted 25 March 2018 - 10:36 PM

I am not happy, but it does give me more time to get caught up in the series.

Looks like for the next 2 years EA is giving me no reason to give them money. That's probably a good thing.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:47 AM

I was half expecting that. Another beloved franchise on the chopping block for some reason. Inquisition already had a lot of problems, I'm still hopeful that they won't abandon or completely cock up the series - I'm way too interested in the Maker/Blight lore to just shrug this off :(
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Posted 09 May 2018 - 10:59 AM

http://www.eurogamer...biowares-anthem

Here's a release date (window), BK.

Expect to see more @ E3
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 09 May 2018 - 03:47 PM

View PostMentalist, on 09 May 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

http://www.eurogamer...biowares-anthem

Here's a release date (window), BK.

Expect to see more @ E3


Nice. Canít wait to see something different.
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