[Tattersail_]

Macros, on 11 July 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

thats three posts where Tatts has been chuckling at Nom, or saying nom cracks him up or something.
And I struggle to find any hilarity in the preceeding posts.

its probably nothing but it just stuck out at me

Him nit picking against Venge about rules and then later similar arguing with Khell about something irrelevant. I find it funny

[Macros]

ok. I'll scratch that one back off the list.

Back to the wifom hunt

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 03:49 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

Nom/Ando, or Nom/Ment makes more sense than Ando/Ment to me.

So going by this logic, I would only vote for Nom today.

You have your analysis, I am going to make mine, I'll try not to wall of text it, as that can upset the balance of the thread, but over next 24 hours I will be doing in depth reading. I am sure somewhere I had you and Mac linked, possibly due to you saying one on and one off, so may be both killers are off. It's a possibility.

Khell why should I exclude you from being scum?

Almost everyone has linked me to Mac at some point. I have been quite open about being sceptical of Mac as a killer and he hasn't said much about me. The only person I see Mac being linked to is Kruppe - and that distantly.

You should exclude me from being a killer because of the analysis I am putting in. It may be horribly, awfully wrong, or I may be making it all up in an effort to muddy the thread as a symp (but why would I do that when nothing was happening before I chipped in today?), but it makes me unlikely to be a killer.

Does it though? You as a killer would benefit just as much from this analysis if that is how you put it. Just mentioning it, but thank you for the response. I'll take it in mind with my re-read.

Today I would like to hear more from both Kruppe and Ando.

Not really. Me posting so much only sticks my neck out further and makes people notice me.

[Khellendros]

The thought has struck me that Tatts has been repeatedly pretty adamant that Mess and LB were town - and lo and behold, they turn up RI. Makes Tatts look good. Could be well judged, might not be.

[Khellendros]

I'm still almost certainly going to vote for Nom today. Gonna sleep on it and then vote in the morning.

[Andorion]

Back and reading up. Trying to understand why Khell wants to vote Nom.

[Khellendros]

Andorion, on 12 July 2017 - 04:09 AM, said:

Back and reading up. Trying to understand why Khell wants to vote Nom.

Do you understand yet?

[Andorion]

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 04:48 AM, said:

Andorion, on 12 July 2017 - 04:09 AM, said:

Back and reading up. Trying to understand why Khell wants to vote Nom.

Do you understand yet?

Nope. All I got on Nom was Tatts finding him funny.

Which was odd.

[Tattersail_]

Andorion, on 12 July 2017 - 05:34 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 04:48 AM, said:

Andorion, on 12 July 2017 - 04:09 AM, said:

Back and reading up. Trying to understand why Khell wants to vote Nom.

Do you understand yet?

Nope. All I got on Nom was Tatts finding him funny.

Which was odd.

So basically what Mac asked before. Wow. You're a better player than this, are you busy or being purposeful?

[Andorion]

Tattersail_, on 12 July 2017 - 05:42 AM, said:

Andorion, on 12 July 2017 - 05:34 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 04:48 AM, said:

Andorion, on 12 July 2017 - 04:09 AM, said:

Back and reading up. Trying to understand why Khell wants to vote Nom.

Do you understand yet?

Nope. All I got on Nom was Tatts finding him funny.

Which was odd.

So basically what Mac asked before. Wow. You're a better player than this, are you busy or being purposeful?

Nah, I also saw you address that, so I am not making an issue out of it.

And nowadays, I am never not busy. Even this weekend is booked. Feeling quite gloomy.

I saw you made a list of potential scum duos. If you think Nom is scum, who do you think his partner is?

Also I think Khell's reasoning lies in that huge linkage list he made, and I didn't really get that.

[Itwæs Nom]

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Of course, I excluded an Ando/Ment partnership before on the basis of this (yes, just this). So yeah, could be Ando/Kruppe, or Ment/Kruppe.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

@Ment:

You didn't, bad choice of words paraphrasing my own notes, this is what I was referring to, you questioning his reasoning for voting for Vengeance, don't see scum partners bothering with that at this stage (or indeed, raising issue with it now).

Mentalist, on 07 July 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Andorion, on 06 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

I am off to bed.

I don't like Venge's play, so I will leave a vote on him

Vote Vengeance

What exactly did you not like?

How much of the analysis of yours was based on significant interactions?

Khell you make a list and dismiss suspects on the basis on interactions like this and now you're gonna make your DDay vote based on it? That's lazy in truth. I don't believe you're town with how you act like you're putting a ton of effort into the game and then do this. Granted you haven't voted yet but keep talking about it.

Test part of my driving exams done, now onto the practical part

[Itwæs Nom]

Yay, success

[Tattersail_]

Good Job, well done. A new world opens up to you. You'll want to drive everywhere now.

[Itwæs Nom]

Tattersail_, on 12 July 2017 - 07:50 AM, said:

Good Job, well done. A new world opens up to you. You'll want to drive everywhere now.

Thanks

I've had driving license for moped since 15

[Tattersail_]

Interactions from Khell;

Early on has a bit of back and forth with Ment. Early distancing/interactions, not many since
Then votes Messremb
Mac votes the same way possible partnership
Mentions me to Ment about my play style and says his Mess vote is gut.
Quick shout at Andorion, "Defending Defending" towards Mess. Not partners with Ando
Quick replies to Bliss and Me. Looking to see if any have not had many interactions with him
Defends Venge
End of day, not on lynch train.

Makes his one on and one off theory
Explains why to Nom
Says Ando is edging closer to the scum side
Baits Mess
Jokes with Ment
Looks at Siergiej
Analysis of lynch trains finds Nom and me suspicious
Votes for Nom
Says he can rule out partnerships
Defends his actions day one
Looks at likely partnerships
States Mac is unlikely to be a killer
To which Nom asks why is Anonymous. Hmm
Then Khell does his analysis
Ends up voting Mess. I do not see this vote. I see his workings but they would and should have fell on Nom.

So far I see Khell as a possible partner to Ment, Mac, Kruppe and Nom.


Mac and Kruppe both by disassociation. He has not had many interactions with either. I understand with Kruppe having posted so little but Mac he has none with and does not see as scum.
Ment I see early interactions but nothing much from then on, he has not been that suspicious of Ment and voted towards Mess over him yesterday.
Nom has been on Khell's radar throughout the game but he has not pushed towards him as a lynch, if he does I could see it as distancing which looks to have been set up throughout the game.


Going to do Mac next.

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:43 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Of course, I excluded an Ando/Ment partnership before on the basis of this (yes, just this). So yeah, could be Ando/Kruppe, or Ment/Kruppe.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

@Ment:

You didn't, bad choice of words paraphrasing my own notes, this is what I was referring to, you questioning his reasoning for voting for Vengeance, don't see scum partners bothering with that at this stage (or indeed, raising issue with it now).

Mentalist, on 07 July 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Andorion, on 06 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

I am off to bed.

I don't like Venge's play, so I will leave a vote on him

Vote Vengeance

What exactly did you not like?

How much of the analysis of yours was based on significant interactions?

Khell you make a list and dismiss suspects on the basis on interactions like this and now you're gonna make your DDay vote based on it? That's lazy in truth. I don't believe you're town with how you act like you're putting a ton of effort into the game and then do this. Granted you haven't voted yet but keep talking about it.

Test part of my driving exams done, now onto the practical part

Lazy? Sorry, what exactly have you done since lynching Venge, other than continually ask inane questions and make dismissive comments? Nothing. You haven't actually contributed anything novel or genuine since your vote on Venge. So you are either playing a bad - and lazy - town game, or that's pretty telling.


Also congrats on passing!

[Itwæs Nom]

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:43 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Of course, I excluded an Ando/Ment partnership before on the basis of this (yes, just this). So yeah, could be Ando/Kruppe, or Ment/Kruppe.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

@Ment:

You didn't, bad choice of words paraphrasing my own notes, this is what I was referring to, you questioning his reasoning for voting for Vengeance, don't see scum partners bothering with that at this stage (or indeed, raising issue with it now).

Mentalist, on 07 July 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Andorion, on 06 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

I am off to bed.

I don't like Venge's play, so I will leave a vote on him

Vote Vengeance

What exactly did you not like?

How much of the analysis of yours was based on significant interactions?

Khell you make a list and dismiss suspects on the basis on interactions like this and now you're gonna make your DDay vote based on it? That's lazy in truth. I don't believe you're town with how you act like you're putting a ton of effort into the game and then do this. Granted you haven't voted yet but keep talking about it.

Test part of my driving exams done, now onto the practical part

Lazy? Sorry, what exactly have you done since lynching Venge, other than continually ask inane questions and make dismissive comments? Nothing. You haven't actually contributed anything novel or genuine since your vote on Venge. So you are either playing a bad - and lazy - town game, or that's pretty telling.


Also congrats on passing!

Sure but I don't walk around saying you shouldn't lynch me because of the effort I put in the game.
With a list like that it's also curious how you appear to hardly second-guess anything in it, which seems unnatural now that it's DDay.

I'm gonna reread today

And thanks!

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 08:35 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:43 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Of course, I excluded an Ando/Ment partnership before on the basis of this (yes, just this). So yeah, could be Ando/Kruppe, or Ment/Kruppe.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

@Ment:

You didn't, bad choice of words paraphrasing my own notes, this is what I was referring to, you questioning his reasoning for voting for Vengeance, don't see scum partners bothering with that at this stage (or indeed, raising issue with it now).

Mentalist, on 07 July 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Andorion, on 06 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

I am off to bed.

I don't like Venge's play, so I will leave a vote on him

Vote Vengeance

What exactly did you not like?

How much of the analysis of yours was based on significant interactions?

Khell you make a list and dismiss suspects on the basis on interactions like this and now you're gonna make your DDay vote based on it? That's lazy in truth. I don't believe you're town with how you act like you're putting a ton of effort into the game and then do this. Granted you haven't voted yet but keep talking about it.

Test part of my driving exams done, now onto the practical part

Lazy? Sorry, what exactly have you done since lynching Venge, other than continually ask inane questions and make dismissive comments? Nothing. You haven't actually contributed anything novel or genuine since your vote on Venge. So you are either playing a bad - and lazy - town game, or that's pretty telling.


Also congrats on passing!

Sure but I don't walk around saying you shouldn't lynch me because of the effort I put in the game.
With a list like that it's also curious how you appear to hardly second-guess anything in it, which seems unnatural now that it's DDay.

I'm gonna reread today

And thanks!

Tatts asked me why I shouldn't be considered scum. I answered that question. Yesterday I actively said that I believe lynching me or Mac will resolve a good few questions about the other's affiliation. Obviously, today it might be too late for that, unless you feel confident that the symp is dead.

And I've second-guessed loads in the list. I even gave that a name - the Kruppe factor. But unfortunately I have little else to work with. If I had to say who has played the scummiest from feeling rather than analysis, I would still say you, Ment, and Ando. Mac I don't have a scum feeling for, Tatts not as much as those three, and Kruppe...well Kruppe has played like a scummy douche who is deliberately low posting, but may just be low posting because they have to. You know I half-suspect that they might actually be a symp trying out a new distraction tactic.

[Tattersail_]

Interactions from Mac


Early on he refrained from original thought. Not seeing anything in the earlier interactions from Venge and Ment. Possible partner to Ment?
He then votes for Mess, which he says is a choice between Khell and Mess. Incidentally he is following Khell's vote. Possible partner for Khell
He asks both Nom and myself to explain what we are getting at, barbing a possible deflection from Mess.
Says that the 4 votes on him must be a deflection from Mess. Who was innocent, no deflection but engineered? Votes were from Nom, myself and Ment.
Looks at Nom's vote and questions it.
Responds to my questioning over the Ment/Venge debate
Mac mentions Nom's back down. Nom/Mac cannot be partners
Mentions Kruppe, then back to Nom
Leaves vote on Mess, doesn't switch to the Venge train. Explains his reasoning.
Picks up on a post from Ment that he finds suspicious
Points out Venge's second slip/mis post.

Day two
Mentions Kruppe, myself and Mess
Votes Mess
Got to be said, I find Mac hard to read
Mentions me, says I am one of his choices
Accuses me of following Khell
Says he could switch to Ment, mentions that day one post
Stays with Mess

Out of players left alive I see Mac linked to Ment for his ignoring of the spat early day one
Khell because they have followed each others vote day one and two, and they have not accused each other.
Andorion for no interactions whatsoever as far as I could see
Don't see him linked to Nom or Kruppe for things that have been said

[Macros]

Tea break.
Catching up