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Posted 11 July 2017 - 06:07 PM

View PostKruppe of Darujhistan, on 07 July 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

View PostMentalist, on 07 July 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

vote Kruppe

Because our guard labelled him as lurkerson, and he's done shit all this game.

Now I'm gonna try go look for a better suspect.


I didn't lynch our guard, you did.

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View PostKruppe of Darujhistan, on 07 July 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

I tend to post a lot when I'm Town and a lot less when I'm scum. There's no denying that.

But I'm not Scum or Symp.

Lynch with caution.


Kruppe was awfully jumpy here wasn't he?

Almost seemed like he anticipated being called out for a divergence from his normal gameplay.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 06:17 PM

View PostMacros, on 06 July 2017 - 06:00 AM, said:

More interesting content in the last 3 posts than the 60 preceeding.

Of the trifecta involved I always see mess as a symp, khell is.....khell and venge is only here because of the quotes

Khells stretching on a joke from mess. But mess fires straight back with a symp case.

vote Mess

For now, this is gut, of the two involved



View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

View PostMacros, on 06 July 2017 - 06:00 AM, said:

More interesting content in the last 3 posts than the 60 preceeding.

Of the trifecta involved I always see mess as a symp, khell is.....khell and venge is only here because of the quotes

Khells stretching on a joke from mess. But mess fires straight back with a symp case.

vote Mess

For now, this is gut, of the two involved


This is one of the so interesting posts you mention. But then there's no follow-up about the content from you, not a single word.

View PostKhellendros, on 05 July 2017 - 10:09 PM, said:

I'm going to make a controversial statement.

I have been watching The Night Of. Watched all but one episode so far, and I have to say, I don't think it's as good as everyone seems to say.


Vote Macros



View PostMacros, on 07 July 2017 - 10:42 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 07 July 2017 - 06:33 PM, said:

Well now that's a little bit of a surprise. I'd have expected a bit more of a fight from Venge than we saw.

I dislike smug speculation from Khell about 1 on 1 off. We've had plenty of times too where both have been on or off. Khell is my current top pick for symp.

Who is playing differently to normal RI? Well we've not had a gut-vote-i'm-not-listening-to-anoyone-else from Mac yet have we?

Vote Macros



this

I went and voted you, and all of a sudden and fuck me flurry of activity appeared to drag attention everywhtre else.
and you fuckling vanished.

now Venge ois symping.
is he symping me? hjow? no, jsut a Mac hasnt lost the fucking rag yet he must be scum vote.

vote Mess

I gave my reasonign yesterday, and stand by it. resistance, vansihgin act and this twaddle today with no acknowledgment of anything esle
we have him

and I think Ment is his partner, on the LOL MY BAD post I quyoted yesterdahy


So, interesting thing, Macros restarted a train on Mess, mentioning his Day 1 case.

What Day 1 case? There is no substance to it, as Nom points out.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 06:35 PM

Having read up further, my third suspicion is Tatts.

I simply cannot get past that bucket of wifom he dumped on thread.


Also, crazy thought - Khell is scum and he is now subtly leading the game with his partner speculation
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 06:36 PM

Finally remembered to login non-anonymously.

Work and weather were utter shit today. I really wish I got internet at work.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 06:39 PM

View PostAndorion, on 11 July 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

Having read up further, my third suspicion is Tatts.

I simply cannot get past that bucket of wifom he dumped on thread.


Also, crazy thought - Khell is scum and he is now subtly leading the game with his partner speculation


Subtly?!
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:28 PM

Page 4, Day 2:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 July 2017 - 04:27 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 10 hours and 2 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb, Siergiej, Tattersail, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tattersail ( Siergiej )
3 Votes for Macros ( ItWasNom, Tattersail, Lady Bliss )
1 Vote for Vengeance ( Messremb )
3 Votes for Messremb ( Khellendros, Macros, Vengeance )

Players not voted: Andorion, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Mentalist




Here comes Nom to upset the balance (having cast the first vote on Mac earlier)

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Mac doesn't appear to be overly worried about his situation and my vote was based on weak reasoning anyway so

Remove vote

I'm not very inclined to follow a train based almost entirely on gut, plus Mess is basically non-existent and so far the votes haven't made him post more but sure it'd be nice to hear more from him eventually

Venge's last reasoning for voting Tatts is BS, that theory of his seems too complicated for D1, he keeps repeating his meta rules that we all know so well again and again, and most of game-specific stuff he says just seems like excuses for these rule-based votes rather than real reasons, he doesn't appear to pay that much attention. And some more people has expressed their suspicions about him so

Vote Vengeance



View PostSiergiej, on 06 July 2017 - 06:24 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Mac doesn't appear to be overly worried about his situation and my vote was based on weak reasoning anyway so

Remove vote

I'm not very inclined to follow a train based almost entirely on gut, plus Mess is basically non-existent and so far the votes haven't made him post more but sure it'd be nice to hear more from him eventually

Venge's last reasoning for voting Tatts is BS, that theory of his seems too complicated for D1, he keeps repeating his meta rules that we all know so well again and again, and most of game-specific stuff he says just seems like excuses for these rule-based votes rather than real reasons, he doesn't appear to pay that much attention. And some more people has expressed their suspicions about him so

Vote Vengeance


Um, except Venge is voting Mess...

View PostItwęs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

View PostSiergiej, on 06 July 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

I'd be more interested in Nom


Who would've guessed!


I know, right? Posted Image


Here's Sierg not buying Nom's reasoning. If tatts wants to wifom, here's a perfectly plausible reason for Nom to target sierg, :apt2:


View PostAndorion, on 06 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

I am off to bed.

I don't like Venge's play, so I will leave a vote on him

Vote Vengeance


Drive-by making it 3:3 on mess and Venge, abandoning Mac. Symp or partner?
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:34 PM

Tatts gives Venge train momentum.
He's studiously ignoring mess (who turned out to be RI, it must be said), and i'm not sure if this was blinkered-ness, or a long-game fake-distance set-up.

View PostTattersail_, on 06 July 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

Left tab open on phone but I have been playing Witcher 3.

Early on Venge/Ment go at it. Even vote for each other.

Mac comes along days something like nothing to see here.

Some time goes by and he votes elsewhere but again doesn't comment on Venge/Ment spat.

Distancing and playing down something. So I was thinking related to one of those players.

Venge takes my calling out of Mac as potential symp worthy abd votes for Mac but when I vote for Mac, Venge removes vote. Now although that seems a bit weird he then goes a bit crazy and starts voting other people for various things.

Now something is wrong with his play and I think it's because Ment highlighted him early. If Mac isn't up for being lynched then I certainly would vote Venge.

remove vote

Vote Vengeance




View PostMacros, on 06 July 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

I'm going to bed, I'm leaving my vote on Mess.

Because of what I perceive as resistance that bounded out when I pushed a vote on him, and how Mess has sorted of drifted into the shadows as the focus on him started to disapate, a few lol and other non posts while admitting that he be's lurking on the thread. Feeling like it's coasting unail another lynch happens or attention has fully left him.

There was a post from ment (?) I think know on page 3/4 that caught my eye though. Going to go quote it before lights out so it doesn't slide under the radad


Dogged determination from Mac, ignoring the growing train.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:35 PM

View PostSiergiej, on 06 July 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

View PostMentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 10:40 PM, said:

vote Venge


Tatts picking this is worrying me a bit, but if the CF is scum, I'll have reason to think tatts is being genuine snazzy inno tatts. And it's still the best of the 3 trains we have now.

On my way to the shops, so I'll check back in a few hours.


What's wrong with y'all setting up for next day based on imaginary night outcomes?

I'm slowly heading off to sleep, will watch an ep of You Me Her and check the thread before calling it a night but see no reason to switch from Tatts.



Oh hey, tatts! Here's another person sierg didn't like! Wifom, wifom, wifom.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:37 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 07 July 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

I reckon it's one on, one off the train for the killers, simply based on what most commonly happens at the beginning of games. So two groups:

Mess, Nom, Ando, Tatts, Ment, LB

Kruppe, Khell, Mac

Hmm. With the smaller group of, for me, Mac or Kruppe, I am somewhat tempted to lean toward Kruppe who has added nothing but apparently been around. Will have to look through Mac's posts again though. That was a developing train till it changed to Venge, so perhaps some scum pushing there.


This seems to be the premise for everything Khell is thinking, so i'll quote that here.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:41 PM

View PostMentalist, on 07 July 2017 - 08:04 PM, said:

View PostKruppe of Darujhistan, on 07 July 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

I tend to post a lot when I'm Town and a lot less when I'm scum. There's no denying that.

But I'm not Scum or Symp.

Lynch with caution.


How about you post smth of substance then?
Because all I'm seeing is classic coasting so far.

This hasn't changed btw
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 07:57 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

Alright, here's what I have based on several rereads and reviewing interactions between players. In the list below I am discounting myself, but if you really need it I have most often been linked with Mac, while I am unlikely to be with Mess or Nom. I have also not included a list for Kruppe because obvious reasons:


Possible partners for Andorion as killer: Kruppe, LB, Mac, Ment, Mess, Nom, Tatts

LB: Andorion, Kruppe, Mac, Ment, Mess, Nom, Tatts

Mac: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Ment, Mess, Nom, Tatts

Mentalist: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Mac Mess, Nom, Tatts

Messremb: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Mac, Ment, Nom, Tatts

Nom: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Mac, Ment, Mess, Tatts

Tatts: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Mac, Ment, Mess, Nom


I'll provide my digested reasons for these in a separate post, just going to give a few conclusions below.

First thing I get from my reread is that I can only see Mac linked with Kruppe - and even then it's a bit of a stretch. The only other person Mac could be linked to is myself - in which case a lynch of either of us (if you want to go that route) would go a long way to dropping the level of suspicion on the other. But even then, there are three scum left, meaning that myself, Kruppe and Mac would all have to be scum anyway for a partnership to be among those three names. Do we see things narrowing down so badly for scum by day 2? I do not.

I have not ruled it out above, but as much as I would love for it to be true, I don't *think* Ment and Tatts are partners, too ballsy a play after such a successful day 1. I think scum will want to play it quieter on day 2. Thus if Tatts were a killer, I think his only realistic partner is Mess - who failed to point him out as one of the players who had not yet posted on day 1 when someone mentioned lynching a player who hadn't yet signed in. Mess said go for Kruppe or Mac, but doesn't mention Tatts.

Aside from Kruppe, Mess and Nom have the most potential links to other players, especially Mess. Andorion has been quiet, but has also directed and attracted attention from others.

Ment has been around quite a bit, but said little of substance, aside from when it concerned Venge.


Took out mess and LB from the pairing equations. Analysis in next post, b/c phone is a pain to look at.

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 11 July 2017 - 07:58 PM

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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:00 PM

Nom you are funny. You little nit-picker you. *Chuckles
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:01 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

View PostAndorion, on 11 July 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

Having read up further, my third suspicion is Tatts.

I simply cannot get past that bucket of wifom he dumped on thread.


Also, crazy thought - Khell is scum and he is now subtly leading the game with his partner speculation


Subtly?!


Cross post. I was referring to this.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:05 PM

Here not here. Just glancing through. Be on properly in the morning.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:07 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

Nom you are funny. You little nit-picker you. *Chuckles



whats with these constant Nom is funnys Tatts?
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:07 PM

:apt2:

Okay, excluding khell himself, his analysis leaves me and Nom connected to equal number of people.

I'll need to see how Khell himself slots into this, of course.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:09 PM

I mean, I get what the last post was about, but that's a couple of times through the game you've been saying hes a card so to speak.
going to have to go check it was you each time, but I think it is
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:13 PM

Okay, I think my charged's fucked up, because my battery's going down rapidly when it's supposed to be charging.

I'll look at this more when I'm back home
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:28 PM

thats three posts where Tatts has been chuckling at Nom, or saying nom cracks him up or something.
And I struggle to find any hilarity in the preceeding posts.

its probably nothing but it just stuck out at me
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:59 PM

View PostMacros, on 11 July 2017 - 08:09 PM, said:

I mean, I get what the last post was about, but that's a couple of times through the game you've been saying hes a card so to speak.
going to have to go check it was you each time, but I think it is


Its just that since he's told us he smokes weed a lot whilst playing I see things he posts in a new light. Which in turn crack me up.

I once spent a few hours debating why people keep shooting at robots when the first 100 bullets don't work.
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