[Tattersail_]

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 08:26 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 07:12 AM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 11 July 2017 - 12:24 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 10 July 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Currently I'm liking Nom and possibly Tatts for scum. Both had reasons to kill Siergiej, especially the former. Nom also didn't like Venge's use of admin powers, which, while I kinda side with him, is also the kind of thing scum might get more outraged over (what with their love of lurking and anonymity).

What were Nom's reasons to kill SiergieJ?

Sierg voiced suspicion of Nom's play plus Nom has a grudge against Sierg for painting Nom as scum in most games.

Except there's no grudge

The fact that Sierg sees me as scum every game makes it less significant to me

And you know that NKs are not my way of handling grudges

I'll be around more shortly before timeout

I don't think he saw you as scum this game and there is no way of knowing how you'd handle a grudge like that, and guessing is just wifom.

[Itwæs Nom]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 08:30 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 08:26 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 07:12 AM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 11 July 2017 - 12:24 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 10 July 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Currently I'm liking Nom and possibly Tatts for scum. Both had reasons to kill Siergiej, especially the former. Nom also didn't like Venge's use of admin powers, which, while I kinda side with him, is also the kind of thing scum might get more outraged over (what with their love of lurking and anonymity).

What were Nom's reasons to kill SiergieJ?

Sierg voiced suspicion of Nom's play plus Nom has a grudge against Sierg for painting Nom as scum in most games.

Except there's no grudge

The fact that Sierg sees me as scum every game makes it less significant to me

And you know that NKs are not my way of handling grudges

I'll be around more shortly before timeout

I don't think he saw you as scum this game and there is no way of knowing how you'd handle a grudge like that, and guessing is just wifom.

I meant he voices suspicions about/finds me scummy/whatever

[Macros]

Sort of keeping up in quick bursts on my phone.
Jesus Tatts, is there anyone you didn't point a finger at in that run of posts??

[Tattersail_]

Macros, on 11 July 2017 - 08:37 AM, said:

Sort of keeping up in quick bursts on my phone.
Jesus Tatts, is there anyone you didn't point a finger at in that run of posts??

Keeping my options open at the moment, I feel like I am on the cusp of working things out, and putting my thoughts down as I see them.

I don't find Mess or Bliss as scummy. Yet the rest all have points against.

[Macros]

Took a read over the last page and a half on my tea break.

I'm not entirely sure what to make of Tatts wild arm flinging, his stream of consciousness approach is quite bizarre to follow at times.
Of what he produced the only bit I could really agree with was the vote on Kruppe, we really need to hear more from him. His wifom rabbit holes do not appeal to me

[Tattersail_]

Well to be honest Mac, after my read up and thoughts posted, Khell and you are quite high on my scum list, but my point and vote remains on Ando and Kruppe because they are laying extremely low. Both you and Khell have a lot more content and votes to work with.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

Well to be honest Mac, after my read up and thoughts posted, Khell and you are quite high on my scum list, but my point and vote remains on Ando and Kruppe because they are laying extremely low. Both you and Khell have a lot more content and votes to work with.

Guess I'm not trying to hide then. I'm going to have a look at unlikely/more likely partnerships, before cementing my final vote for the day

[Khellendros]

Halfway through my second re-read. Conclusions so far - Mac is unlikely to be a killer. Either that or if he is, it will be super easy to narrow down his partner

[Itwæs Nom]

Why are you still anonymous Khell?

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

Why are you still anonymous Khell?

Just always set that way and haven't changed it. I'll do it after I finish posting my thoughts. If I remember.

[Lady Bliss]

Just woke up and read the last couple pages. I'll probably need to reread when I'm more awake. It would be great to see a vote count from ps.

[Khellendros]

Lady Bliss, on 11 July 2017 - 12:17 PM, said:

Just woke up and read the last couple pages. I'll probably need to reread when I'm more awake. It would be great to see a vote count from ps.

Not sure about the vote count, but I think we have about three hours till timeout. I'm trying to string together something in the next half hour.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 2 hours and 46 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for ItWasNom ( Khellendros )
2 Votes for Kruppe of Darujhistan ( Mentalist, Tattersail )
1 Vote for Tattersail ( Lady Bliss )
1 Vote for Messremb ( Macros )
1 Vote for Macros ( Messremb )

Players not voted: Andorion, ItWasNom, Kruppe of Darujhistan

[Path-Shaper]

I'm still sick, so I'm going back to bed for a bit. May be a bit late for timeout, but will definitely pop back on AROUND that time.

[Tattersail_]

Looks like day will time out unless people come online. Didn't Nom say he'd be around?

[Khellendros]

Alright, here's what I have based on several rereads and reviewing interactions between players. In the list below I am discounting myself, but if you really need it I have most often been linked with Mac, while I am unlikely to be with Mess or Nom. I have also not included a list for Kruppe because obvious reasons:


Possible partners for Andorion as killer: Kruppe, LB, Mac, Ment, Mess, Nom, Tatts

LB: Andorion, Kruppe, Mac, Ment, Mess, Nom, Tatts

Mac: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Ment, Mess, Nom, Tatts

Mentalist: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Mac, Mess, Nom, Tatts

Messremb: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Mac, Ment, Nom, Tatts

Nom: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Mac, Ment, Mess, Tatts

Tatts: Andorion, Kruppe, LB, Mac, Ment, Mess, Nom


I'll provide my digested reasons for these in a separate post, just going to give a few conclusions below.

First thing I get from my reread is that I can only see Mac linked with Kruppe - and even then it's a bit of a stretch. The only other person Mac could be linked to is myself - in which case a lynch of either of us (if you want to go that route) would go a long way to dropping the level of suspicion on the other. But even then, there are three scum left, meaning that myself, Kruppe and Mac would all have to be scum anyway for a partnership to be among those three names. Do we see things narrowing down so badly for scum by day 2? I do not.

I have not ruled it out above, but as much as I would love for it to be true, I don't *think* Ment and Tatts are partners, too ballsy a play after such a successful day 1. I think scum will want to play it quieter on day 2. Thus if Tatts were a killer, I think his only realistic partner is Mess - who failed to point him out as one of the players who had not yet posted on day 1 when someone mentioned lynching a player who hadn't yet signed in. Mess said go for Kruppe or Mac, but doesn't mention Tatts.

Aside from Kruppe, Mess and Nom have the most potential links to other players, especially Mess. Andorion has been quiet, but has also directed and attracted attention from others.

Ment has been around quite a bit, but said little of substance, aside from when it concerned Venge.

[Macros]

On tea break.
I'd say we're about the 3 hour mark, will catch up, and post.
Likely will be all from me for the day due to work and the timeout timing

[Khellendros]

Some other things:

If Ment is a killer, Nom (mentions satanic rituals in relation to Ment) or Mess (same thing, says that's what we're here for) could be a symp.

If Bliss is a killer, Ando could be her symp (agreeing with crazy goat assertion)

If Nom is a killer, Tatts looked like he might be his symp until recently on day 2, saying things like there were on similar pages and that Nom has a night kill. But day 2 he starts casting suspicion on Nom (though votes for Ment and then Kruppe)

Andorion disparaged the case on Messremb made by Mac, which Venge had agreed with (putting Mess on three votes I think). At the time I jokingly-not-jokingly said Ando was defending Mess.

Nom was also not inclined to vote for Messremb, though his reasoning that he didn't want to vote for a mostly gut case was pretty sensible.

Nom said Tatts when he meant Mess when voting for Venge, when Siergiej points it out, Nom ignores it.

Nom and Bliss immediately sceptical of Tatts' vote on Ment (though, again, to be fair...)

Bliss voiced doubts about Nom as a killer, or a connection to Tatts.

Tatts is adamant that LB and Mess are town.

[Tattersail_]

I'd like to see your thought processes Khell.

[Tattersail_]

Cross post there, and I'd say I have a good feeling that Bliss and Mess are town based off their current play. Not saying I am adamant about it because that's a bit strong, more scummier candidates than them two.