[Khellendros]

Lady Bliss, on 11 July 2017 - 12:24 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 10 July 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Currently I'm liking Nom and possibly Tatts for scum. Both had reasons to kill Siergiej, especially the former. Nom also didn't like Venge's use of admin powers, which, while I kinda side with him, is also the kind of thing scum might get more outraged over (what with their love of lurking and anonymity).

What were Nom's reasons to kill SiergieJ?

Sierg voiced suspicion of Nom's play plus Nom has a grudge against Sierg for painting Nom as scum in most games.

[Khellendros]

Lady Bliss, on 11 July 2017 - 12:29 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 July 2017 - 07:44 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 05 July 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

DONKEY WITH SPEAR RIDER, NOM IS TELLING US HE HAS A NIGHT KILL

If Nom is Tatts partner would he have said this?

Definitely!

[Khellendros]

There's a few partnerships I think I can provisionally rule out, but will wait till I get to a computer later.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 07:13 AM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 11 July 2017 - 12:29 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 06 July 2017 - 07:44 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 05 July 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

DONKEY WITH SPEAR RIDER, NOM IS TELLING US HE HAS A NIGHT KILL

If Nom is Tatts partner would he have said this?

Definitely!

Hey!

[Tattersail_]

Mentalist, on 05 July 2017 - 04:52 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 05 July 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 05 July 2017 - 03:44 PM, said:

I don't identify ears as horns. I see the white ear. But I also see the grey spikes that look like horns in between the ear(s)

Floundering. Changing his story.

Vengeance, on 05 July 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

Messremb, on 05 July 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 05 July 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 05 July 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

So weighing in,,, I think Nom is riding a donkey. Ment is usually scummy. I think that the rule is if he makes it to day 2, we lynch him for not being nkd. I'm more concerned about Venge tbh..,

You are getting the rules for Khell confused with the rules for Mental. Khell is day 2 and Mental is the same as me and day 3.

By not advocating lynching Khell D1 I can only assume that you're scum confident that Khell will scupper town at endgame.

Having played were khell was town and super helpful. I like to give him 1 day to see if he is town. Although I would totally be up for lynching him before he posts. We haven't done that in years. I think that Morgy might have been the last one that we did that too.

Vote khell

Well, now we can clearly see who's not paying attention and is looking for a baseless lynch

vote Venge

Just having a read through, Ment votes Venge after Khell gets a vote. Protecting his master?

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 05 July 2017 - 10:08 PM, said:

Messremb, on 05 July 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 05 July 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 05 July 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

So weighing in,,, I think Nom is riding a donkey. Ment is usually scummy. I think that the rule is if he makes it to day 2, we lynch him for not being nkd. I'm more concerned about Venge tbh..,

You are getting the rules for Khell confused with the rules for Mental. Khell is day 2 and Mental is the same as me and day 3.

Glad to see you've got the game planned out. Scummy!

Messremb, on 05 July 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 05 July 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 05 July 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

So weighing in,,, I think Nom is riding a donkey. Ment is usually scummy. I think that the rule is if he makes it to day 2, we lynch him for not being nkd. I'm more concerned about Venge tbh..,

You are getting the rules for Khell confused with the rules for Mental. Khell is day 2 and Mental is the same as me and day 3.

By not advocating lynching Khell D1 I can only assume that you're scum confident that Khell will scupper town at endgame.

Didn't get any traction the first time, so tries again with slightly different post. Obviously scummy attempts at nudging votes.


Vote Messremb

Then Khell also offers an alternative.

[Tattersail_]

Macros, on 06 July 2017 - 06:00 AM, said:

More interesting content in the last 3 posts than the 60 preceeding.

Of the trifecta involved I always see mess as a symp, khell is.....khell and venge is only here because of the quotes

Khells stretching on a joke from mess. But mess fires straight back with a symp case.

vote Mess

For now, this is gut, of the two involved

Just which Macros jumps onto.

Possible Khell and Mac partnership with Ment as their symp?

[Tattersail_]

So Mess gets two votes, and Mac gets one from Nom, and my musings on to why Mac is avoiding talking about Venge/Ment.

Macros, on 06 July 2017 - 09:36 AM, said:

Both of you explain your logic, as I appear to be on a different book.

Resistance to pressure on Mess?

Bit jumpy from Mac?

[Tattersail_]

Ment removes and puts Mac at L2

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 57 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb, Siergiej, Tattersail, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Vengeance ( Messremb )
2 Votes for Tattersail ( Mentalist, Siergiej )
3 Votes for Macros ( ItWasNom, Vengeance, Tattersail )
2 Votes for Messremb ( Khellendros, Macros )

Players not voted: Andorion, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss

What does Khell say about the Mac votes

Khellendros, on 06 July 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Well, tatts is acting like a headless chicken, so he can't be killer (possible symp though)


Venge is playing the "I can't keep up" card.

I don't really buy Tate's reasoning, but Mess highlighting a possible connection b/w Khell and Mac is worth a poke.

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Tatts is playing like Tatts, I would hesitate to put/discount any label on him so easily.


Not convinced by the flurry of votes on Mac. I like my Mess vote - not because it's strong, because it's not, but because I have a day 1 gut feeling. And if there's one day to use your gut on, it's day 1. Hey ho.

Subtle defending of Mac here.

[Tattersail_]

Lady Bliss, on 06 July 2017 - 03:01 PM, said:

On second thought, I don't really like Venge blaming his removal on Tatts. Seems like he is taking the easy out there.

Right now I'm thinking Khell and Mac are killers with Venge as the symp.

vote Mac

Bliss gets on the Mac train, I have seen good reasoning from her the whole game and for once she is not pinging my scumdar.

[Tattersail_]

Vengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

Upon a reread I am a feeling maccy's case on Mess being possible scum. The safest bet would be to lynch Khell but I don't think that Maccy is scum. So I will jump on the Mess wagon.

Vote Mess

Venge's preferred choice would be Khell but he doesn't see them linked like I did, so may have to rethink that.

[Tattersail_]

Siergiej, on 06 July 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Tatts is indeed playing Tattsy. One thing I remain concerned about is the post in which he singled out Ment. Or more like the way he did that.

Based on the Mess case, I'd be more interested in Nom, who went directly after Mac when he voted Mess.

This is one of Siergiej's game thoughts, and it is quite damning for Nom, something to keep in mind, Nom may have killed Siergiej.

[Tattersail_]

Itwæs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Mac doesn't appear to be overly worried about his situation and my vote was based on weak reasoning anyway so

Remove vote

I'm not very inclined to follow a train based almost entirely on gut, plus Mess is basically non-existent and so far the votes haven't made him post more but sure it'd be nice to hear more from him eventually

Venge's last reasoning for voting Tatts is BS, that theory of his seems too complicated for D1, he keeps repeating his meta rules that we all know so well again and again, and most of game-specific stuff he says just seems like excuses for these rule-based votes rather than real reasons, he doesn't appear to pay that much attention. And some more people has expressed their suspicions about him so

Vote Vengeance

Nom is one of the first to remove from Mac and jump onto our guard. He does not want to vote Mess, wonder why? Possible Nom/Mess partnership?

[Tattersail_]

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 8 hours and 7 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb, Siergiej, Tattersail, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tattersail ( Siergiej )
2 Votes for Macros ( Tattersail, Lady Bliss )
2 Votes for Vengeance ( Messremb, ItWasNom )
3 Votes for Messremb ( Khellendros, Macros, Vengeance )

Players not voted: Andorion, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Mentalist

Would partners vote this close together?

Someone (Khell?) said about killers being on and off the trains. So if they are thinking that way then possible they would vote the same way to use this rule to point fingers?

[Tattersail_]

Macros, on 06 July 2017 - 06:33 PM, said:

That's quite the back down from Nom given the rapidity of his attack, the WiFi socks on this bus, so I can read the thread, but I'm wary of tyoung a big post on my phone incase it gets eaten.
So expect short posts, if any, from me for the next 2 hours or so.
Yes I know I said I would post after work but I don't set the bus timetables, it was this bus or wait for another 2 hours.

I agree with Mac here, mighty suspicious of Nom for the removal that he says is based on weak reasoning.

[Tattersail_]

One player that says little, but still finds it easy to vote. No one would look this way at such a little poster.

Andorion, on 06 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

I am off to bed.

I don't like Venge's play, so I will leave a vote on him

Vote Vengeance

IGMEOY

[Tattersail_]

Before reading the rest of day two, I want to point this out.

Vengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 06 July 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

Oh FYI you guys can't lurk on the thread and not post when I am playing. Being an admin I see everyone who is logged on. Kruppe I am specifically talking about you.

I get that you can't easily undo it so you couldn't see it but nothing forces you to talk about it, this is abuse of your admin powers

Ahh but why wouldn't I talk about it. As a member of town all information is of vital importance. If this was an alted game then I would be in an alt and not be able to see who is lurking. Alas this is an unalted game and as such as an Admin I can see all who are logged in and looking at a game thread. That is the down side to scum if an admin is playing in an unalted game. It forces scum to not lurk and to instead to post and interact in the game. If a town is trying to lurk then they could be assumed to be scum.


Remove vote

Vote Kruppe

Vengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:

I saw kruppe lurking and he only has one post.

Tattersail_ 32
Vengeance 20
Path-Shaper 17
Mentalist 16
Itwæs Nom 16
Messremb 13
Macros 13
Khellendros 9
Lady Bliss 9
Andorion 7
Siergiej 7
Blend 1
Kruppe of Darujhistan 1
Kilava 1

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 06 July 2017 - 11:59 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 07:13 PM, said:

Oh FYI you guys can't lurk on the thread and not post when I am playing. Being an admin I see everyone who is logged on. Kruppe I am specifically talking about you.

If I was logged in anonymously then I apologize. That you can see me lurking is no concern of mine.

I've logged out and back in again so everyone (who actually bothers) can scroll to the bottom to see my name when I'm reading the thread, and note its absence when I'm not.

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 07 July 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

I tend to post a lot when I'm Town and a lot less when I'm scum. There's no denying that.

But I'm not Scum or Symp.

Lynch with caution.

We have a lot of suspects but nothing really concrete and my biggest concern would be getting to D day with both Andorion and Kruppe around. If they say as little as they have then how the fuck are we to get a good read on them? Kruppe says it himself that he low posts as scum, can we really let him coast to the end?

Remove vote


Vote Kruppe

With such a slow day I think getting rid of deadwood/possible scum may be best for town at this point.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 07:38 AM, said:

Ment removes and puts Mac at L2

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 57 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb, Siergiej, Tattersail, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Vengeance ( Messremb )
2 Votes for Tattersail ( Mentalist, Siergiej )
3 Votes for Macros ( ItWasNom, Vengeance, Tattersail )
2 Votes for Messremb ( Khellendros, Macros )

Players not voted: Andorion, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss

What does Khell say about the Mac votes

Khellendros, on 06 July 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Well, tatts is acting like a headless chicken, so he can't be killer (possible symp though)


Venge is playing the "I can't keep up" card.

I don't really buy Tate's reasoning, but Mess highlighting a possible connection b/w Khell and Mac is worth a poke.

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Tatts is playing like Tatts, I would hesitate to put/discount any label on him so easily.


Not convinced by the flurry of votes on Mac. I like my Mess vote - not because it's strong, because it's not, but because I have a day 1 gut feeling. And if there's one day to use your gut on, it's day 1. Hey ho.

Subtle defending of Mac here.

Wasn't subtle, I was definitely against a Mac lynch yesterday. Having looked at the train last night, I still can't say if it's odd that Mac got pretty close to being lynched before the switch to Venge. Scum making a concerted effort to move the vote away from Mac? Or just that the votes on Mac were mostly half-hearted?

[Itwæs Nom]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 07:12 AM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 11 July 2017 - 12:24 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 10 July 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Currently I'm liking Nom and possibly Tatts for scum. Both had reasons to kill Siergiej, especially the former. Nom also didn't like Venge's use of admin powers, which, while I kinda side with him, is also the kind of thing scum might get more outraged over (what with their love of lurking and anonymity).

What were Nom's reasons to kill SiergieJ?

Sierg voiced suspicion of Nom's play plus Nom has a grudge against Sierg for painting Nom as scum in most games.

Except there's no grudge

The fact that Sierg sees me as scum every game makes it less significant to me

And you know that NKs are not my way of handling grudges

I'll be around more shortly before timeout

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 08:11 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 07:38 AM, said:

Ment removes and puts Mac at L2

Path-Shaper, on 06 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 57 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Andorion, ItWasNom, Khellendros, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss, Macros, Mentalist, Messremb, Siergiej, Tattersail, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Vengeance ( Messremb )
2 Votes for Tattersail ( Mentalist, Siergiej )
3 Votes for Macros ( ItWasNom, Vengeance, Tattersail )
2 Votes for Messremb ( Khellendros, Macros )

Players not voted: Andorion, Kruppe of Darujhistan, Lady Bliss

What does Khell say about the Mac votes

Khellendros, on 06 July 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Well, tatts is acting like a headless chicken, so he can't be killer (possible symp though)


Venge is playing the "I can't keep up" card.

I don't really buy Tate's reasoning, but Mess highlighting a possible connection b/w Khell and Mac is worth a poke.

remove vote

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Tatts is playing like Tatts, I would hesitate to put/discount any label on him so easily.


Not convinced by the flurry of votes on Mac. I like my Mess vote - not because it's strong, because it's not, but because I have a day 1 gut feeling. And if there's one day to use your gut on, it's day 1. Hey ho.

Subtle defending of Mac here.

Wasn't subtle, I was definitely against a Mac lynch yesterday. Having looked at the train last night, I still can't say if it's odd that Mac got pretty close to being lynched before the switch to Venge. Scum making a concerted effort to move the vote away from Mac? Or just that the votes on Mac were mostly half-hearted?

It is possible but the one person who removed from Mac that we have a CF for was our guard. That would leave Ment and Nom as candidates for scum.

One of the reasons for your vote?