[Macros]

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:10 PM, said:

Has everyone except Kruppe checked in after Khell's vote?

Assuming the symp is still alive, either Khell or Kruppe should be scum. Then there's the possibility of symp not seeing both of his masters online whenever he was on, currently there are only 3 players looking at thread.

Edit: hi to has

I'm not entirely sure of this logic trail. Why, assuming the symp is alive, does this leave Kruppe or Khell as scum?

[Itwæs Nom]

Khell and Tatts are definitely leading two players who have the most impact on the game, if they both were town, 3 of Ment, Macros, Ando and Kruppe would have to be scum.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

I voted him and then remove and switched to someone else when Mac was getting too much heat, that looked like a common case of distancing but for you it's one of reasons Macros can't be scum?

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Khell and Tatts are definitely leading two players who have the most impact on the game, if they both were town, 3 of Ment, Macros, Ando and Kruppe would have to be scum.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

I voted him and then remove and switched to someone else when Mac was getting too much heat, that looked like a common case of distancing but for you it's one of reasons Macros can't be scum?

Are you actually suggesting that you were deliberately distancing from Macros? Because that's what that reads like.

[Itwæs Nom]

Macros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:10 PM, said:

Has everyone except Kruppe checked in after Khell's vote?

Assuming the symp is still alive, either Khell or Kruppe should be scum. Then there's the possibility of symp not seeing both of his masters online whenever he was on, currently there are only 3 players looking at thread.

Edit: hi to has

I'm not entirely sure of this logic trail. Why, assuming the symp is alive, does this leave Kruppe or Khell as scum?

If they both were town then scum could have hammered me. Besides just WCS I'm assuming symp is alive because Bliss played a very towny game and Mess had posted too little for a symp imo.

[Itwæs Nom]

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Khell and Tatts are definitely leading two players who have the most impact on the game, if they both were town, 3 of Ment, Macros, Ando and Kruppe would have to be scum.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

I voted him and then remove and switched to someone else when Mac was getting too much heat, that looked like a common case of distancing but for you it's one of reasons Macros can't be scum?

Are you actually suggesting that you were deliberately distancing from Macros? Because that's what that reads like.

Ofcourse, why wouldn't I be?

I'm saying it looked like it a lot

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Khell and Tatts are definitely leading two players who have the most impact on the game, if they both were town, 3 of Ment, Macros, Ando and Kruppe would have to be scum.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

I voted him and then remove and switched to someone else when Mac was getting too much heat, that looked like a common case of distancing but for you it's one of reasons Macros can't be scum?

Are you actually suggesting that you were deliberately distancing from Macros? Because that's what that reads like.

Ofcourse, why wouldn't I be?

I'm saying it looked like it a lot

O-kay. You realise that that argument would still make you scum, right? Just partnered with Mac?

[Itwæs Nom]

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Khell and Tatts are definitely leading two players who have the most impact on the game, if they both were town, 3 of Ment, Macros, Ando and Kruppe would have to be scum.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

I voted him and then remove and switched to someone else when Mac was getting too much heat, that looked like a common case of distancing but for you it's one of reasons Macros can't be scum?

Are you actually suggesting that you were deliberately distancing from Macros? Because that's what that reads like.

Ofcourse, why wouldn't I be?

I'm saying it looked like it a lot

O-kay. You realise that that argument would still make you scum, right? Just partnered with Mac?

Yes, which disputes your theory that Mac can't be scum that you were so sure about

[Mentalist]

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Khell and Tatts are definitely leading two players who have the most impact on the game, if they both were town, 3 of Ment, Macros, Ando and Kruppe would have to be scum.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

I voted him and then remove and switched to someone else when Mac was getting too much heat, that looked like a common case of distancing but for you it's one of reasons Macros can't be scum?

Are you actually suggesting that you were deliberately distancing from Macros? Because that's what that reads like.

Ofcourse, why wouldn't I be?

I'm saying it looked like it a lot

O-kay. You realise that that argument would still make you scum, right? Just partnered with Mac?

Yes, which disputes your theory that Mac can't be scum that you were so sure about

At the expense of putting you as his partner.

I still don't see how that makes you a worse lynch.

[Tattersail_]

Nom it looks like Khell is trying to trap you here and it's working...

[Macros]

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

Macros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:10 PM, said:

Has everyone except Kruppe checked in after Khell's vote?

Assuming the symp is still alive, either Khell or Kruppe should be scum. Then there's the possibility of symp not seeing both of his masters online whenever he was on, currently there are only 3 players looking at thread.

Edit: hi to has

I'm not entirely sure of this logic trail. Why, assuming the symp is alive, does this leave Kruppe or Khell as scum?

If they both were town then scum could have hammered me. Besides just WCS I'm assuming symp is alive because Bliss played a very towny game and Mess had posted too little for a symp imo.

ok, but that's a pretty big assumption, given that a lot of players keep the thread open on a tab in the back ground, and assuming the symp is alive. and assuming that you aren't a killer or their symp. Its not the kind of logic I'd be willing to throw potential D-Day to the wire on.

[Itwæs Nom]

Mentalist, on 12 July 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Khell and Tatts are definitely leading two players who have the most impact on the game, if they both were town, 3 of Ment, Macros, Ando and Kruppe would have to be scum.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

I voted him and then remove and switched to someone else when Mac was getting too much heat, that looked like a common case of distancing but for you it's one of reasons Macros can't be scum?

Are you actually suggesting that you were deliberately distancing from Macros? Because that's what that reads like.

Ofcourse, why wouldn't I be?

I'm saying it looked like it a lot

O-kay. You realise that that argument would still make you scum, right? Just partnered with Mac?

Yes, which disputes your theory that Mac can't be scum that you were so sure about

At the expense of putting you as his partner.

I still don't see how that makes you a worse lynch.

It's not supposed to be a defense

Mentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Well, tatts is acting like a headless chicken, so he can't be killer (possible symp though)


Venge is playing the "I can't keep up" card.

I don't really buy Tate's reasoning, but Mess highlighting a possible connection b/w Khell and Mac is worth a poke.

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This vote is basis for Ment not with Macros? Sure it put him to L-2 but the reasoning is nonsense. He kept his vote though, because

Mentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

Still, there's some possible connections shaping up around Venge and around Mac, so this may be worth following.

Not much of a reason either. Shortly after reminding PS that Macros has 4 votes Ment goes one and removes

Mentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

Upon a reread I am a feeling maccy's case on Mess being possible scum. The safest bet would be to lynch Khell but I don't think that Maccy is scum. So I will jump on the Mess wagon.

Vote Mess

So instead of being on the same train as Tatts, you are on the same train as khell?

And mess is the one who linked khell and Venge together.

Interesting.

remove vote

It's almost lunch time, I'll try to re-read the thread and see if anything new jumps out at me.

Had he removed his vote earlier it would be another apparently classic case of distancing and I'm not willing to dismiss it because he took some time to remove

[Mentalist]

did Ando leave without casting a vote? That could be... telling.

[Mentalist]

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 12 July 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:48 PM, said:

Khell and Tatts are definitely leading two players who have the most impact on the game, if they both were town, 3 of Ment, Macros, Ando and Kruppe would have to be scum.

Khellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

I voted him and then remove and switched to someone else when Mac was getting too much heat, that looked like a common case of distancing but for you it's one of reasons Macros can't be scum?

Are you actually suggesting that you were deliberately distancing from Macros? Because that's what that reads like.

Ofcourse, why wouldn't I be?

I'm saying it looked like it a lot

O-kay. You realise that that argument would still make you scum, right? Just partnered with Mac?

Yes, which disputes your theory that Mac can't be scum that you were so sure about

At the expense of putting you as his partner.

I still don't see how that makes you a worse lynch.

It's not supposed to be a defense

Mentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Well, tatts is acting like a headless chicken, so he can't be killer (possible symp though)


Venge is playing the "I can't keep up" card.

I don't really buy Tate's reasoning, but Mess highlighting a possible connection b/w Khell and Mac is worth a poke.

remove vote

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This vote is basis for Ment not with Macros? Sure it put him to L-2 but the reasoning is nonsense. He kept his vote though, because

Mentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

Still, there's some possible connections shaping up around Venge and around Mac, so this may be worth following.

Not much of a reason either. Shortly after reminding PS that Macros has 4 votes Ment goes one and removes

Mentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 06 July 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

Upon a reread I am a feeling maccy's case on Mess being possible scum. The safest bet would be to lynch Khell but I don't think that Maccy is scum. So I will jump on the Mess wagon.

Vote Mess

So instead of being on the same train as Tatts, you are on the same train as khell?

And mess is the one who linked khell and Venge together.

Interesting.

remove vote

It's almost lunch time, I'll try to re-read the thread and see if anything new jumps out at me.

Had he removed his vote earlier it would be another apparently classic case of distancing and I'm not willing to dismiss it because he took some time to remove

You realize at this point Venge already removed his vote from Mac? Hence me questioning his behaviour.

[Khellendros]

I won't be around for the next couple of hours probably. I don't really see what Nom is trying to argue. Yes, there's always a possibility Mac could be scum, just because I'm saying that the play thus far makes him my lowest choice right now doesn't mean I dismiss it entirely. But I'm not sure what your ultimate argument is there. That anyone could be scum? Well, that's not particularly helpful.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

I won't be around for the next couple of hours probably. I don't really see what Nom is trying to argue. Yes, there's always a possibility Mac could be scum, just because I'm saying that the play thus far makes him my lowest choice right now doesn't mean I dismiss it entirely. But I'm not sure what your ultimate argument is there. That anyone could be scum? Well, that's not particularly helpful.

It's great. He picks up a point and runs with it. Scary thing is he makes sense. Yet you dismiss Mac as likely killer. It pushes up you both as a possible partnership.

[Mentalist]

Tattersail_, on 12 July 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

I won't be around for the next couple of hours probably. I don't really see what Nom is trying to argue. Yes, there's always a possibility Mac could be scum, just because I'm saying that the play thus far makes him my lowest choice right now doesn't mean I dismiss it entirely. But I'm not sure what your ultimate argument is there. That anyone could be scum? Well, that's not particularly helpful.

It's great. He picks up a point and runs with it. Scary thing is he makes sense. Yet you dismiss Mac as likely killer. It pushes up you both as a possible partnership.

I don't really see it bringing anything new to the discussion, aside from re-opening the maccy/nom partnership that khell dismissed before.

In which case, there's STILL more potential connections to Nom than to khell or Mac.

This would've been great food for thought yesterday, but on D-day, it expands, rather than narrowing down our options.

[Itwæs Nom]

Khellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

I won't be around for the next couple of hours probably. I don't really see what Nom is trying to argue. Yes, there's always a possibility Mac could be scum, just because I'm saying that the play thus far makes him my lowest choice right now doesn't mean I dismiss it entirely. But I'm not sure what your ultimate argument is there. That anyone could be scum? Well, that's not particularly helpful.

You said Macros can't be scum because there's no possible partners for him save for Kruppe

My argument is that some of those connections that you've based your DDay vote on are crap. But you seem so sure of your decision.

I don't have a case against you but you're either playing shitty town game (yesh hypocritical) or you're scum.

I'm not even sure what the charges against me are, connections? D1 train manipulating (I swung from Mac who you now find so towny)? Sure.

I think Tatts might be fake-symping me, as there would be little resistance to my lynch if it wasn't for him. He posts a lot but not that much of it are new content and usually it doesn't appear to lead anywhere.

Fuck this I'm going away from computer, will keep checking the thread for another hour or so then I will be around an hour before timeout.

[Mentalist]

I'm around for another hour or so, then I'll be off for probably 3ish hours, and then I'll be around to timeout again.

Tatts, if you want to talk, speak up.

[Tattersail_]

I'm at badminton. Don't know if it shows I'm around when my phone is on lock

[Tattersail_]

I'll vote at about 10pm