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Mafia 144.5 - Unalted M&P Game Thread

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:17 AM

Interactions from Ando

Starts off jovially, joking about goats.
Disappears for a time, comes back when I accuse Mac of being wishy washy and not committing to anything. Possible Mac partner?
Ignores my reply to his defense
Says there is no case on Mess
Argues with Venge about my play style
Votes Venge
Not around for End of day or does not post until day 2

Day 2
States the outcome of day one was worst thing that could have happened
Khell accuses him of waiting to see what others say
Ment asks him what he did not like about Venge's play
Ando ignores both players because his next post is targeted towards me
Points out that I may be sowing confusion on thread but that Mess should be looked at
I also point out Ando's vote day one
No response
Then Khell does analysis and also mentions that post/vote
Did not reappear day 2

Basically he has been so low posting that I had to pull up other's thoughts on him. He could be scum but not a leading scum.

Linked to Mac early on, through that one post
Has little to no interaction with Nom, no thoughts on him at all
No replies to anyone really so hard to draw conclusions. Was on the first train, hasn't explained his vote but disappeared day 2.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:18 AM

All through that analysis Ando was here, everytime I searched his name per page he was at the bottom but has left without any thoughts. Scum bag.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:20 AM

Going to have a break, need to do Nom, Ment and Kruppe before sharing my thoughts.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:21 AM

More Hella long posts with linkages to sift through.

I just wonder if Tatts and venge have been paired into a sooper team and are laughing their heads of off thread. Be ballsy though.

There's a post I want to quote up the page a bit, it was ando or nom, it caught my eye as being, hypocritical or something, looked out of place due what what they were commenting on anyway.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:27 AM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 06:43 AM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Of course, I excluded an Ando/Ment partnership before on the basis of this (yes, just this). So yeah, could be Ando/Kruppe, or Ment/Kruppe.


View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

@Ment:

You didn't, bad choice of words paraphrasing my own notes, this is what I was referring to, you questioning his reasoning for voting for Vengeance, don't see scum partners bothering with that at this stage (or indeed, raising issue with it now).

View PostMentalist, on 07 July 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

View PostAndorion, on 06 July 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

I am off to bed.

I don't like Venge's play, so I will leave a vote on him

Vote Vengeance


What exactly did you not like?




How much of the analysis of yours was based on significant interactions?


Khell you make a list and dismiss suspects on the basis on interactions like this and now you're gonna make your DDay vote based on it? That's lazy in truth. I don't believe you're town with how you act like you're putting a ton of effort into the game and then do this. Granted you haven't voted yet but keep talking about it.

Test part of my driving exams done, now onto the practical part


This one.
Comes out and says he doesn't believe the Khell is town, hasn't really done anything to follow that up.
And the whole lazy thing. I don't think Tatts or khell can be called lazy this game, especially when Kruppe is still floating along with Andover not far behind him
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:27 AM

Back to work, will try and keep up sporadically until 2nd tea break
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 11:30 AM

View PostMentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Well, tatts is acting like a headless chicken, so he can't be killer (possible symp though)


Venge is playing the "I can't keep up" card.

I don't really buy Tate's reasoning, but Mess highlighting a possible connection b/w Khell and Mac is worth a poke.

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Ment what post were you refering to here?

I could only find this:

View PostMessremb, on 05 July 2017 - 10:44 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 05 July 2017 - 10:08 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 05 July 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 05 July 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostLady Bliss, on 05 July 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

So weighing in,,, I think Nom is riding a donkey. Ment is usually scummy. I think that the rule is if he makes it to day 2, we lynch him for not being nkd. I'm more concerned about Venge tbh..,


You are getting the rules for Khell confused with the rules for Mental. Khell is day 2 and Mental is the same as me and day 3.


Glad to see you've got the game planned out. Scummy!



View PostMessremb, on 05 July 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

View PostVengeance, on 05 July 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostLady Bliss, on 05 July 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

So weighing in,,, I think Nom is riding a donkey. Ment is usually scummy. I think that the rule is if he makes it to day 2, we lynch him for not being nkd. I'm more concerned about Venge tbh..,


You are getting the rules for Khell confused with the rules for Mental. Khell is day 2 and Mental is the same as me and day 3.


By not advocating lynching Khell D1 I can only assume that you're scum confident that Khell will scupper town at endgame.



Didn't get any traction the first time, so tries again with slightly different post. Obviously scummy attempts at nudging votes.


Vote Messremb


Implying I'm expecting traction in 11 minutes? That's just insulting me Khell. I can only assume this is a lame attempt at distancing/distracting from your master.

Vote Venge

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 11:36 AM

Aah

View PostMentalist, on 06 July 2017 - 01:44 PM, said:

woops, my bad, Mess is actually pointing at khell symping away from Venge. That's what I get for not bothering to check previous page and writing a post before a vote-count. :apt2:

I need caffeine. I missed my stop in the subway today and went 3 extra stops before waking up.

Still, there's some possible connections shaping up around Venge and around Mac, so this may be worth following.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 12:04 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 12 July 2017 - 09:18 AM, said:

All through that analysis Ando was here, everytime I searched his name per page he was at the bottom but has left without any thoughts. Scum bag.

Had a tab open, but wasn't actually monitoring everything. Posting from mobile at the moment.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 12:15 PM

The damned Jump to Page function still doesn't work
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 12:19 PM

Catching up, but will be hitting subway soon.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 12:21 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 12 July 2017 - 12:15 PM, said:

The damned Jump to Page function still doesn't work


Yeah, it's super annoying. Multiquote also wasn't working for me yesterday, would only save the last thing I clicked multiquote on.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 12:24 PM

I'm around and will be checking the thread off and on. I'd like to see what others have to say before chipping in again, as I've outlined my current position already.

Ment - why have you coasted through the game?

Ando - why do I only seem to notice you pop up to question other people's votes?

Nom - looking forward to those insights.

Mac - would like to see something from you too, considering I feel you're most towny.

Tatts - hope this is all building up to something.

Kruppe - you're the actual worst.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 01:11 PM

Mostly due to summer. Summer= more life = less mafia time.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 01:12 PM

Anyhow, almost at work. Gonna pick up where I left off yest
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 01:33 PM

Interactions from Nom

Nom was active early, joking around with everyone on thread
Votes Macros for something, thought it was similar to my reasoning but it wasn't
Later explains that Khell/Mac could be partners
He corrects a Venge mistake
Says I feel defensive to him
Then asks Venge whether my vote on Mac would make Venge think I am not Mac's symp. Bit of a mind twister that one
Removes from Mac and Votes Venge. Ah clears up the previous mind twister, saying Venge's theory is too complicated
Argues with Venge about rules.
That's it from day one

Day 2
Discredits my Ment theory about the NK, mentions healer and that day one he thought of me as possible symp. Possible partner for Ment
Questions Khells theory about one on and one off
In same post says its convenient for Khell to stay away from main train. Distance from Khell?
Jokes with Khell about standards
states NA's are nit a way he handles grudges re Siergiej
Argues with Khell about visibility
States he is not liking Khell
Questions me about Ment
Admits he hasn't really looked at Mess
Says he will be around for end of day but votes after the hammer
Mentions he will just go with the flow

No mention of Ando or Kruppe as far as I can tell. Leans towards Khell and myself and has not much on Ment or Mac, especially Mac since he was suspicious of him early game.

Nom could be partnered with Ando, Kruppe, Khell, Mac or Ment because he has played a clean game. Less so with Khell come to think about it because he is leaning towards him this last day.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 01:35 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 12 July 2017 - 12:24 PM, said:

I'm around and will be checking the thread off and on. I'd like to see what others have to say before chipping in again, as I've outlined my current position already.

Ment - why have you coasted through the game?

Ando - why do I only seem to notice you pop up to question other people's votes?

Nom - looking forward to those insights.

Mac - would like to see something from you too, considering I feel you're most towny.

Tatts - hope this is all building up to something.

Kruppe - you're the actual worst.


Well I hope it is, it does give me more of a feel for everyone but it is hard to narrow down a partnership.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 01:43 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

I'd like to see your thought processes Khell.



I'll try to put it in some semblance of order:

LB not with Ment because early on she was looking at him as scum. LB not with Mac as says he seems to have blinders for Ment/Venge and later on also looks at Khell/Mac as killers. And then Venge and Mac. LB later also points towards Ando. Comes out against Tatts day 2.

Ment not with Mac as votes for him, points it out when PS misses it. Later doesn't want to be on Mac because Tatts is. But does not want to switch to Mess. Mac points fingers at Ment. Ment later points towards Ando.

Mess not with Mac because that's the only person he's really focused on aside from Venge, and even more so the other way round, Mac has focused on Mess, it was the first fully serious vote of the game.

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

Tatts not with Mac because after him as both killer and symp. Not with Ando, who comes out against him. Tatts now less likely to be with Nom as suggests Nom/Mess partnership, though doesn't vote that way. Tatts quite friendly toward LB and Mess.

Ando not with Tatts as dislikes Tatts' push on Mac.


Tatts and Ment were doing quite a bit of mutual protection for a while - Tatts saying only Ment would NK him which leads to all sorts of speculation, Ment being adamant that Tatts is playing towny.


Looking back, it strikes me that Khell might be reading way too much into (mostly) Day 1 play. Especially in cases of early votes, I wouldn't rule out distancing as easily as he does.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 01:55 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 11 July 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

Without any reread

Ment and Mess are about equally suspicious to me (not much, but they've both stayed low) so I'll just vote with the majority

My preferences would be Khell and Tatts

Had a long day

It would be nice to hear your reasons on this.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 02:16 PM

View PostMentalist, on 12 July 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 11 July 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 11 July 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

I'd like to see your thought processes Khell.



I'll try to put it in some semblance of order:

LB not with Ment because early on she was looking at him as scum. LB not with Mac as says he seems to have blinders for Ment/Venge and later on also looks at Khell/Mac as killers. And then Venge and Mac. LB later also points towards Ando. Comes out against Tatts day 2.

Ment not with Mac as votes for him, points it out when PS misses it. Later doesn't want to be on Mac because Tatts is. But does not want to switch to Mess. Mac points fingers at Ment. Ment later points towards Ando.

Mess not with Mac because that's the only person he's really focused on aside from Venge, and even more so the other way round, Mac has focused on Mess, it was the first fully serious vote of the game.

Nom not with Mac as votes seriously on him, thinks of Mac and myself as killer partners, Mac has expressed suspicion of Nom a fair few times.

Tatts not with Mac because after him as both killer and symp. Not with Ando, who comes out against him. Tatts now less likely to be with Nom as suggests Nom/Mess partnership, though doesn't vote that way. Tatts quite friendly toward LB and Mess.

Ando not with Tatts as dislikes Tatts' push on Mac.


Tatts and Ment were doing quite a bit of mutual protection for a while - Tatts saying only Ment would NK him which leads to all sorts of speculation, Ment being adamant that Tatts is playing towny.


Looking back, it strikes me that Khell might be reading way too much into (mostly) Day 1 play. Especially in cases of early votes, I wouldn't rule out distancing as easily as he does.



True. And I said that earlier. I was hoping that it would strike up more debate than it has though.
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