[Rashan]

Silchas Ruin, on 09 June 2017 - 08:27 PM, said:

Rashan, on 06 June 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:

Anyway because Osserc doesn't appear to be anyone important and because of Ampelas' provisions joke

vote Denul

So what is the reason for voting Denul?

Lack of a better alternative, I thought Ampelas would be more careful than to joke about having provisionals like he did, and apparently I thought Osserc was towny or something. It was D1, anyone could still be lynched without a real reason.

[Jalan]

Woo, I was starting to worry that Id's miss the EoD and get modkilled. Thanks for waiting for me guys.

[Jalan]

So, I'm not convinced by Thyr's response to my question about his over-reaction of a vote on day 1. He then proceeds to wave off thoughts of Amp being vamp without really giving a reason why.

Thyrllan, on 07 June 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

Jalan, on 07 June 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

That said, I've got to ask- Thyr, why did you respond to an obvious joke non-vote (as you pointed out yourself) with a serious vote? Yeah, I'm tired of the signalling claims too, but that seemed like an overreaction.

Clearly you're not as tired of them as me. I've spent almost every Day 1 since the Venice game repeating the same point.

That being said, it started out as a half-serious vote. But it matured by the end of the day, especially in light of me thinking that the alternative (Amp) was un-helpful, but not a vampire.

Just for what looks like Thyr trying to deflect, I'm willing to hammer.

Vote Ampelas

[Thyrllan]

That looks like a lynch.

I'm just about to head out home. I'll check the CF, and hopefully I'll have some time to put some thoughts on the weekend, but the weather's supposed to be nice (also, E3), so I dunno how much free time I'll actually have.

[Path-Shaper]

That's a lynch!
It is Day 3 some time remaining...

There are 10 players still alive: (Ampelas, Rashan, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Thyrllan, Lock, Nimander Golit, Silchas Ruin,Merrid)

6 votes to lynch 5o go night

1 vote Silchas (Ampelas)
3 votes Amp (Lock,Silchas, Kilava,Nimander, Merrid, Japan)

Players not voted: (Rashan, Galain, Kilava, Thyrllan)


Ampelas was Xander Harris and a student at Sunnyvale High, played by House.

It is now night.

[Path-Shaper]

Silchas Ruin has been killed. He was Rupert Giles and Buffy's watcher played by Tatts.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. The clock is frozen with 36 hours and 00 minutes remaining.

There are 8 players still alive: ( Rashan, Galain, Jalan, Kilava, Thyrllan, Lock, Nimander Golit,Merrid)

5votes to lynch 4 to go night



Players not voted: (Rashan, Galain, Kilava, Japan, Thyr, Lock, Nimander, Merrid)

I will check in over the weekend if you lynch.

[Nimander Golit]

Well, that could have gone better. Will try to look over the thread during the weekend to check for possible Denul connections. Like I said before, I would expect faction leader to have BP, and Denul died from a Night kill so was probably not the leader. So I want to look for possible signaling and distancing.

[Jalan]

Well shit, that doesn't paint me in too good of a light there, does it?

[Lock]

Okay, PS has given me permission to post what I'm going to post. So I'm not breaking the no reveals rule.

I have very reliable information that Nimander is the one responsible for the kill on Silchas Ruin. There is some level of doubt, but not much.

Considering the lack of kills on night 1, the kill on a vamp on night 2, and the death of a townie on night 3 (when I'm pretty sure Nimander did the killing this night), I think lynching him would be a good idea today. Or we don't lynch him, perhaps Buffy can practice her arts on Nimander tonight.

Vote Nimander Golit

[Kilava]

Lock, on 09 June 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

I have very reliable information that Nimander is the one responsible for the kill on Silchas Ruin. There is some level of doubt, but not much.

Considering the lack of kills on night 1, the kill on a vamp on night 2, and the death of a townie on night 3 (when I'm pretty sure Nimander did the killing this night), I think lynching him would be a good idea today. Or we don't lynch him, perhaps Buffy can practice her arts on Nimander tonight.

Even if you're right, who's to say Nimander killing Silchas wasn't just human killing human blundering?

Then our lynching Nimander would just compound the problem and leave us in even worse straits then we're already in.

If Buffy can verify Nimander's faction - great, but that won't be until after the end a day and a night. What do we do in the meantime?

[Merrid]

Kilava, on 10 June 2017 - 12:11 AM, said:

Lock, on 09 June 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

I have very reliable information that Nimander is the one responsible for the kill on Silchas Ruin. There is some level of doubt, but not much.

Considering the lack of kills on night 1, the kill on a vamp on night 2, and the death of a townie on night 3 (when I'm pretty sure Nimander did the killing this night), I think lynching him would be a good idea today. Or we don't lynch him, perhaps Buffy can practice her arts on Nimander tonight.

Even if you're right, who's to say Nimander killing Silchas wasn't just human killing human blundering?

Then our lynching Nimander would just compound the problem and leave us in even worse straits then we're already in.

If Buffy can verify Nimander's faction - great, but that won't be until after the end a day and a night. What do we do in the meantime?

Or, vamps killed him? I mean if we have a killer we need to take him out. If its a vampire killer, I would be profoundly uneasy leaving him lying around. That is simply not a risk we can take.

[Lock]

Kilava, on 10 June 2017 - 12:11 AM, said:

Lock, on 09 June 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

I have very reliable information that Nimander is the one responsible for the kill on Silchas Ruin. There is some level of doubt, but not much.

Considering the lack of kills on night 1, the kill on a vamp on night 2, and the death of a townie on night 3 (when I'm pretty sure Nimander did the killing this night), I think lynching him would be a good idea today. Or we don't lynch him, perhaps Buffy can practice her arts on Nimander tonight.

Even if you're right, who's to say Nimander killing Silchas wasn't just human killing human blundering?

Then our lynching Nimander would just compound the problem and leave us in even worse straits then we're already in.

If Buffy can verify Nimander's faction - great, but that won't be until after the end a day and a night. What do we do in the meantime?

As I said, I'm not certain of anything. But it was information too valuable to waste if I were to die. Regardless, PS tells me I've already said more than I should.

Still, it's impossible for Nimander to be Buffy and no other townie is likely to have a vig. Therefore, it's likely he's scum.

[Rashan]

Alright I can easily see Nimander as scum

A bit early for gut, and do you really need gut when you're just prodding?

Nimander Golit, on 06 June 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

Not much is happening so I will follow my gut and prod Ampelas.

vote Ampelas

Needed to express his satisfaction with Denul's death

Nimander Golit, on 08 June 2017 - 06:09 PM, said:

Boom.

Thyr, why did you vote Osseric D1 but not D2?

This post appears to be serious but is completely useless.

Nimander Golit, on 08 June 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

You're asking me or telling me?

Lazy vote, 4th on Ampelas bandwagon

Nimander Golit, on 09 June 2017 - 05:55 PM, said:

I'd rather have a lynch before timeout, better to go into the freeze with more info. I quite like Merrid's case on Ampelas, it holds up. Ampelas was also my D1 vote, so I'm happy to go back to that.

vote Ampelas

after Denul CFed as Drus I asked about her character in the series, Siclhas replied:

Silchas Ruin, on 08 June 2017 - 07:12 PM, said:

I doubt anyone would've known Buffy's mum bar possibly Buffy herself. So Rashan's play is more suspicious. Need to go look at who voted for Denul day one. Drusilla is a main scum faction character

And a few posts later Nimander posts this:

Nimander Golit, on 09 June 2017 - 11:59 AM, said:

...
I don't know Buffy lore, so not sure if Drusilla would be the master or a minion.
...

And yesterday this:

Nimander Golit, on 09 June 2017 - 09:59 PM, said:

Well, that could have gone better. Will try to look over the thread during the weekend to check for possible Denul connections. Like I said before, I would expect faction leader to have BP, and Denul died from a Night kill so was probably not the leader. So I want to look for possible signaling and distancing.

Indicating he either missed both my question and Silchas's answer, or he just missed the answer, either way it indicates he doesn't really care for some reason. Not to mention he could've easily googled it in the meantime.

And apparently he doesn't like me either.

[Nimander Golit]

Now, that's interesting.

Lock, on 09 June 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

Okay, PS has given me permission to post what I'm going to post. So I'm not breaking the no reveals rule.

I have very reliable information that Nimander is the one responsible for the kill on Silchas Ruin. There is some level of doubt, but not much.

Considering the lack of kills on night 1, the kill on a vamp on night 2, and the death of a townie on night 3 (when I'm pretty sure Nimander did the killing this night), I think lynching him would be a good idea today. Or we don't lynch him, perhaps Buffy can practice her arts on Nimander tonight.

Vote Nimander Golit

If I were to take credit for a Kill, it would not be for Silchas. You might go through my posts, especially early in the game, and notice me alluding to similarities in mechanics between first Buffy game and this one. Now, go re-read the first game, then re-read this one. Look at how the Nights played out so far and connect the dots.

Given the above, I'm sure Lock is a vampire. What still makes me cautious, is the odd timing of the fake reveal. Even if he's the lone vampire left in game (is that a possibility?), there was zero heat on him so far, therefore it reeks of unneeded desperation. Unless, and it's a longshot but the only plausible explanation I can think of, he is a recruiter and knows he still has a minion alive. If this assumption is correct, lynching an inno + recruiting at Night brings vampires to 3v4, so that's decent odds. Still, a weird way to play this out.

As for Rashan's nonsense, dignifying it with an answer would be giving him too much credit. He's not a vampire though.

Vote Lock

[Galain]

Looks like things are going down at last. For the record, I remain completely mystified by all of you I wasn't really with the game last week for various reasons, but plan to be around a lot more now. It's good to see sides taking shape at last. I am still sceptical about some of the setups being mooted, simply because it seems too heavily weighted against vampires.

Anyways, going to read back through the Lock/Nimander stuff and pick a side I suppose.

[Kilava]

Rashan, on 10 June 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

Indicating he either missed both my question and Silchas's answer, or he just missed the answer, either way it indicates he doesn't really care for some reason. Not to mention he could've easily googled it in the meantime.

I've ignored a suggestion from PS to Google Buffy. The wiki page is 5 miles long and dense with minute detail compiled by fanatics of the most fanatical stripe. No thanks.

Nimander Golit, on 10 June 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

Even if he's [Lock] the lone vampire left in game (is that a possibility?), there was zero heat on him so far, therefore it reeks of unneeded desperation.

Ampelas was pretty determinedly anti-Lock early on and maintained that position right up until he died.

[Rashan]

Nimander Golit, on 10 June 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

Now, that's interesting.

Lock, on 09 June 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

Okay, PS has given me permission to post what I'm going to post. So I'm not breaking the no reveals rule.

I have very reliable information that Nimander is the one responsible for the kill on Silchas Ruin. There is some level of doubt, but not much.

Considering the lack of kills on night 1, the kill on a vamp on night 2, and the death of a townie on night 3 (when I'm pretty sure Nimander did the killing this night), I think lynching him would be a good idea today. Or we don't lynch him, perhaps Buffy can practice her arts on Nimander tonight.

Vote Nimander Golit

As for Rashan's nonsense, dignifying it with an answer would be giving him too much credit. He's not a vampire though.

Vote Lock

Considering Nim's interest in me from earlier this makes sense, and I can't see much merit in posting this if he was a vampire

I'm on my way after some evidence so will only be around scarcely for the first half of this day

[Lock]

Nimander Golit, on 10 June 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

Now, that's interesting.

Lock, on 09 June 2017 - 10:59 PM, said:

Okay, PS has given me permission to post what I'm going to post. So I'm not breaking the no reveals rule.

I have very reliable information that Nimander is the one responsible for the kill on Silchas Ruin. There is some level of doubt, but not much.

Considering the lack of kills on night 1, the kill on a vamp on night 2, and the death of a townie on night 3 (when I'm pretty sure Nimander did the killing this night), I think lynching him would be a good idea today. Or we don't lynch him, perhaps Buffy can practice her arts on Nimander tonight.

Vote Nimander Golit

Given the above, I'm sure Lock is a vampire. What still makes me cautious, is the odd timing of the fake reveal. Even if he's the lone vampire left in game (is that a possibility?), there was zero heat on him so far, therefore it reeks of unneeded desperation. Unless, and it's a longshot but the only plausible explanation I can think of, he is a recruiter and knows he still has a minion alive. If this assumption is correct, lynching an inno + recruiting at Night brings vampires to 3v4, so that's decent odds. Still, a weird way to play this out.


Vote Lock

You don't make sense.

You say my actions as a vampire don't make sense, therefore you're sure I'm one?

What if, and I say this with great trepidation you lily-livered son of a goat, what if I wasn't a vampire? What If I said what I said because it's the truth? As a fake reveal my actions don't make sense at all. For one thing, there were easier targets to point to and call vampire.But they do make sense if you assume I'm telling the truth.

[Lock]

Also, I'd assume Buffy can target me tonight and kill me if I'm a vampire. The same would be true about Nimander if you lynch me. Either way my reveal could win us the game.