[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

Galain, on 16 May 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

What has me hesitant to voting Kilava is that if there are two scum then one will be voting Kilava.

Or, you know, both.

This post has been edited by Kruppe of Darujhistan: 16 May 2017 - 10:34 PM

[Lady Bliss]

I hope Gust killed somebody, because this is the game that never ends.

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

Lady Bliss, on 17 May 2017 - 04:22 AM, said:

I hope Gust killed somebody, because this is the game that never ends.

I don't think he did.

Yeah, this game has overstayed its welcome and then some.

[Lady Bliss]

It's a shame, I think the reveals really broke this game.

[Silchas Ruin]

Yeah he's targeting Rashan

If there is a lynch his provisionals are on Kilava, if dead then Nereid

Post-wise this is the longest game that has been played since I came here I think

[Path-Shaper]

Silchas:

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 02:39 PM, said:

As I was already using this alt before you sent me the PM I didn't realise it and almost clicked on my messenger but stopped at the last moment and felt such a relief. Only to then find out it's my alt again. It's just weird that I didn't need to relog after the pass has been changed.

Also you've now skipped all the B&KB games that I was gonna mod!

Oh gosh, sorry, I didn't realize you were planning some B&KB games!

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

I don't mind, it's not like this would interfere with them anyway and I wasn't even sure if I was gonna do it because of the spoilers anyway

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:19 PM, said:

You have a typo in the game title, Beauchelain

Uhm, I'm not sure what you mean, it looks fine to me?

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 05:42 PM, said:

It say Beauchelain while it's supposed to be Bauchelain, sans the first e

Wow........ I've been spelling that wrong for years!

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

It's sounds way more French this way!

That would definitely be where my spelling comes from, my French-Canadianness!

Silchas Ruin, on 10 May 2017 - 02:53 AM, said:

Fuck me

Maybe some other day hun!

[Path-Shaper]

Jalan:

Jalan, on 08 May 2017 - 04:19 PM, said:

Welp, we found the newbie. That didn't take long.

Jalan, on 09 May 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

I won't let myself get modkilled. I promise. Last two days have been hell. DM in at my work now, and found a broken irrigation pipe in my sprinkler system yesterday. Bleh.

I'll be more active shortly.

Jalan, on 10 May 2017 - 04:00 AM, said:

Fuck. I rushed that hammer and now town has a really good shot at paying for it. With a 7v3 game, I should have known better than to take that risk.

I did think that the comment about Silchas' only reason to be stabbing at Nim being a possibility of him being the actual healer but disbelieving that that could be the case was clear. I'm apparently saying stupid things again though.

Bleh. I swear, I DO actually learn. I just hope they don't attempt to speed-lynch me again.

Jalan, on 10 May 2017 - 04:01 AM, said:

I'll be damned before I try to self-vote again though. Scum has to actually put a little work into it. I should have some more time for day 2 if I get that far, and I plan on fighting.

Jalan, on 10 May 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

I'm not gonna lie, with the history we've built it feels fantastic to have been the hammer on a scummy Nom.

Jalan, on 11 May 2017 - 05:26 AM, said:

So, I'm going to put a guess out here that is probably way off. I think Merrid may be the BG. It has a lot to do with the way he reacted to NG's reveal, with strong condemnation of how the healer reveal took options away from how the BG could play their role. Very interesting.

[Path-Shaper]

Merrid:

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

A symp? Well that's one accusation I'm used to...

LoL, it never ceases to amaze me how often the randomizer makes you a symp.

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

Once I've alted the killers I may drive a train on one of them and use the meta of "you all know I'm a brilliant symp so clearly I can't be scum" to get myself VPI'd for the remainder of the game. I may do this particularly if Khell is scum.

Now I need to either lay low or be controversial enough to *nearly* get lynched whilst being worth scum keeping around.

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 03:35 PM, said:

So Nimander is House if that wasn't already obvious. Bodyguard *should* STFU and target someone else tonight then maybe Nimander tomorrow.

Merrid, on 08 May 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

I'm going carry my initial opinion that House is an arse with an egomania complex.

If only he wasn't town. Come on scum, find a way to kill him.

Of course my constant ire at him can be represented later as background for my counter-claim...

Merrid, on 09 May 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

So Nereid and Nimander are voting me because they thought my vote for Nimander was serious, Kilava will probably vote me for the same reaso
Rashan is voting me because Galain didn't comment on what Rashan thought was a serious behaviour by me?

Well it's either for that or for sayin bad jokes, I'm not sure to be fair

SR really hasn't played well this game. That 2nd vote the moment I saw it I was here going "Oh no, why the fuck are you... I can't even try and defend..."

Merrid, on 09 May 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Also they're both voting the same person? Distancing folks, distancing! Amp is gonna get looked at for being on the same train as SR.

Merrid, on 11 May 2017 - 11:31 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 11:17 AM, said:

Merrid was livid that I claimed d1. That was real.

If he faked that, kudos, he deserves the win.

Hah, just because I'm livid doesn't mean I'm not scum. Now to leave him to try and drive on Jalan

Merrid, on 11 May 2017 - 11:34 AM, said:

If you wouldn't mind upgrading me to an inheriting symp I'd be most grateful. Also would totally walk away with the game with Nim symping me.

LoL - he's pulling some of the shit that I flipped out about when I played on MafiaScum and ended up having to out myself as healer to avoid a lynch because of it. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the Malazan crew takes it.

Merrid, on 11 May 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 11 May 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

Well, at least I've graduated from Symp to Killer.

Bwahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahaha

Ahahahahahahahaha

WTF!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?????????

Merrid, on 11 May 2017 - 07:44 PM, said:

Galain, on 11 May 2017 - 07:32 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 11 May 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

Galain, on 11 May 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

I am willing to vote everyone who isn't Nim, Merrid, Rashan and Kilava because those four have had best town voices or are confirmed.

FTFY

Ha I really hope Merrid is scum. I hope so. I hope I am at least right once this game.

Have a little more confidence in yourself. Although not as much as Nim, in whose blind spot I am well and truly.

[Path-Shaper]

Merrid, on 11 May 2017 - 07:46 PM, said:

Also someone please fix the Galain avatar, that's getting a little disturbing now.

Merrid, on 11 May 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

This is thoroughly entertaining to watch.

Merrid, on 13 May 2017 - 06:58 PM, said:

So if we make parity with Nim/Rash what'll be the resolution? They couldn't lynch us, we can't kill them. Essentially a tied game. You'd call it?

Unfortunately I think the Healer/Bodyguard combo is a bit of a game breaker - I understand the need for the Bodyguard given the numbers of players making scum too powerful but by adding the Retaliatory Vig to the Bodyguard role it does make an invulnerable scum-killing pairing.

Now of course in hindsight as symp I should have counter-claimed Healer but that's not my style. NG being sufficiently retarded to VPI me for 3 days was a nice result from his claim though. Throwing Amp under the bus was essential after he voted 2nd on NG which would mean scum down to one player, themselves attracting suspicion. So I've miss-played the last bit, should have claimed fast on the Bodyguard which would mean Amp has to dance a little after my lynch but Kilava and Galain look to be mixing themselves up enough... dammit. Ahh well, play for the draw as that's the best I think we can do.

Or, you know, get sufficiently annoyed at the constant voting Night (seriously, what the fuck is the point in doing that?) and self-vote and play on their reactions to that - if Kilava/Galain is stupid enough to vote me 1st/2nd swing it that they're scum and pile on them. Of course if NG and Rash pile on then there's no opening for that and no chance of parity.

Also, privately, if House continues to play on here I'm going to sit out and watch his next game. If I still think he's as much of a dickhead as I do then I'll not be playing any games he is in.

Merrid, on 15 May 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

I like that new rule.

Amp can try killing Rashan every night at no risk

[Path-Shaper]

Galain:

Galain, on 10 May 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

Sorry Bliss you scummy bastard

Galain, on 16 May 2017 - 05:24 PM, said:

I want Merrid or Kilava lynched but RashMent will lynch Amp if I am not voting that way. I'll jump over when he sees reason.

[Path-Shaper]

Kilava:

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 02:23 PM, said:

I think that ends a three or four game run of roles!

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

What if the bodyguard or killer is being healed at the time they collide? Do they both still die, or does the heal prevent the death of whichever is being healed?

If a killer hits whoever Amby Bole is guarding, both the killer and Amby would die regardless of any heals.

Kilava, on 08 May 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

Hmmmmm, I've actually thought about this a bit and I take that back. No, if a killer hits whoever Amby Bole is guarding, both the killer and Amby would die regardless of any heals.

Perhaps put that caveat on thread?


Look at these new people with their new fancy-dan ideas. I tell you, what is the world coming to?

Heh, I'm enjoying watching this from this side of the mod alt!

Kilava, on 12 May 2017 - 10:08 AM, said:

I'm not saying it on thread, but the real reason I'm now looking at Ampelas is because I went back to the sign-up thread to see who was still alive and saw Gust's name on there.

So I've gone back to the old rule: If you can't find scum, and Gust Hubb is playing, then it's him

I just hope I've actually correctly alted him...

Kilava, on 12 May 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:

Blend, I suggest that you force us to lynch if they decide to vote night over and over.

Say there must be a lynch or victory goes to scum automatically.

Kilava, on 16 May 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:

Is Merrid Gust or Messremb? Oh well, guess I've made my choice!

[Path-Shaper]

Rashan:

Rashan, on 08 May 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

That's an awesome role

Rashan, on 08 May 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

That's an awesome role

Rashan, on 08 May 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

And Nim is threatening to squash it's potential.
How am I supposed to play mind games with scum with the healer out in the open?

I was interested to see how you were going to deal with what's on thread so far.

Rashan, on 08 May 2017 - 05:39 PM, said:

Having new folks is fun, but this may prove a real clusterfuck. Naturally, I'm not gonna be revealing.

Rashan, on 08 May 2017 - 06:32 PM, said:

For a completely unrelated reason, I now feel like voting Merrid.

The "until smth better comes along" phrase is just so damn passive.

Rashan, on 09 May 2017 - 02:23 PM, said:

Why is Galain being so elaborate about voting a low-poster? Since when do we have standards on Day 1?

Rashan, on 09 May 2017 - 05:55 PM, said:

I'm getting less sure about SR, but not seeing much else. Work is a zoo, and I also gotta figure out if I want to protect Nimander.

If I was scum, I'd be targeting Kilava, for being rational-sounding and hard to lynch. But it depends on who's killer, since some people like to off low-posters.

Rashan, on 10 May 2017 - 02:50 AM, said:

hmm
shit

protect Kilava

Rashan, on 10 May 2017 - 05:07 PM, said:

I am trusting Khell (kilava?)

...





Famous last words?

Rashan, on 11 May 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

I cannot summon up the enthusiasm for voting Jalan as scum hammer. If I was scum in that position, I'd just power-lurk and miss EoD altogether. Rush-hammer just raises a fuckton of questions. So I doubt it's that easy.

Rashan, on 11 May 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

Yeah, no chance in hell i'm revealing today.

By not revealing, I'm keeping his dumb ass free of NKs, because the natural assumption is that I'll be guarding him.

And who the fuck would counter to show up as symp?

Too many flaws to list with this suggestion.

It's best to assume we don't have a BG, and let him try to do his thing. How is that not obvious?

Rashan, on 11 May 2017 - 08:10 PM, said:

If they hammer Denul: continue protecting Kilava.

There's like 50-50 chance they kill me or him tonight.

Rashan, on 12 May 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

So now let's see how obcessed with Merrid (mess?) Nim is.

Any counter would be amusing, since they'll need the audacity to claim that I tried to bully half the thread into looking @ Nom on Day 1,

If nothing else, might give me a better idea of who symp is (if it's tatts again, I'll be exasperated)

Rashan, on 12 May 2017 - 01:25 PM, said:

So now I'm kinda committed

Protect Nim from now on, unless I say otherwise.

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 04:06 AM, said:

Oh shit, Gust is playing in this one?

I'm guessing he's Amp then?

With Galain being Tatts.

The only problem I'm having with my analysis is that the person whom it's dismissing as not plausibly selling his partner down the river is fucking Khell.......

Mess really needs to give me smth to work with here.

And if Gust or Tatts are inno, they are making awful cases.

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 11:57 AM, said:

Then of course there's the Golden rule of meta: if tatts is not irritating the fuck out of me by end of Day 1, it's likely he's being cagey cuz he's roled.

All town roles are taken. Sooo....

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 01:28 PM, said:

tatts in full-on D-day verbiage mode. Is this frustrated town, or scummy verbal diarrhoea?

Let's see how Khell handles it...

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 04:23 PM, said:

What are the chances JPK was the fucking symp and all of this talk is for nothing?

Rashan, on 16 May 2017 - 04:52 PM, said:

I'm getting GH mad. But I don't think I'm being "entitled". His logic has a glaring inconsistency I pointed out. Everyone on the goddamn board knows I look for inconsistencies in arguments. If you're hiding or completely omitting things that make your case weaker (when they are there for everyone to see in plain sight), then you are acting scummy.

Rashan, on 17 May 2017 - 12:47 AM, said:

Continue guarding Nim, obv.

I got a major hearing tomorrow (supposed to be a 2-day one, but I really hope it won't be), and I need to force myself to work on it for another 5 hours or so, when all I wanna do is sleep.

I'm not dealing with this shit anylonger.

[Path-Shaper]

Killers PM:

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

Hello there

The bodyguard is an unpleasant role

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 04:41 PM, said:

How likely do you think it is that Merrid is roled? Maybe Nimander is actually BG and Merrid is in fact the Doc?

That being said I'm ill again so I'm a little slow now

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 11:47 PM, said:

Alright time to start the dragon summoning ritual

PS, do you think that 3 goats will suffice? What about 4th one to compensate for my lack of a tip of wyval's tail?

My neighbour has some goats, I would wanna use them all though

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 12:50 PM, said:

Sorry! Forgot that I was in mafia (and that I volunteered before Monday).

Reading up now.

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

Merrid or Nimander are my top two so far.

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

This is Gust Hubb btw

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

Oh yeah Nom here

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Ok finished a quick quick read through (fuck! got to get to work!!!). So healer trying to pair up with Amby huh? Interesting tactic. Also, the healer probably can heal themself, which means going after Nimander is a no go. He will just have to get himself lynched.

With the Bole brother not revealing, we may have a shot. Not taking Nim's bait, so the game is finding the Bole before Nim does. I will see if I can spot it in the day one text (and then I really really really need to get to work...).

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

I don't think I've seen a healer who can himself in any of Blend's M&Ps
And if he could heal himself why bother trying to get it together with guard

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

Because Nim is playing for the end game. Think about it. Best case scenerio, it ends up being 3 scum versus 2 town. The 2 town will never be lynched and cannot be killed unless scum wants to do a "trading queens" chess move. And the longer those 2 townies are alive, the higher probability that they will hit one of us to even the odds through a lynch without the "trade" clause.

So I guess our choice is, do we want to kill the healer early on to make sure that town doesn't have that certainty (even if it means one of the two of us dies, leaving the other to melt into the morass), or do we want to play the odds that we can get to the end of the game with 2 scum vs 2 town (which means we win).

Our D-day is either at 7 people (lynch will make it 3 to 3) or 5 people (if we lose one of us, 2 to 2). That's how I see it.

We may just need to off Nim before town can wrap their head around this sharp idea.

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 01:35 PM, said:

Only problem is, if the BG get's one of us they get to play the connections game. And get to look at anything we have done on thread and extrapolate.

What do you think?

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

Working out to paint to as a symp perhaps.

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

With you on the chopping block, I am not touching nim with a 10 ft pole.]

I confirm any kill my partner wants with the exception of Nim.

But for now

Please Kill Osseric

Anyone laying that low is either a low poster or roled. If roled, there really is only one thing he can be.

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 09 May 2017 - 01:28 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 01:12 PM, said:

Denul, on 08 May 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 08 May 2017 - 02:41 PM, said:

One's a lonely number

Two's the first loser

Two can be as bad as one, it's the loneliest number since the number one - ber.

I wasted valuable time reading the roles and scenario.

Just a quick note, this was what first caught my attention. In a scenario with paired killers, anything saying "pair" or "two" immediately catches the eye. Two (killers) can be as bad as one (killer). Indeed.

Well, ya caught me. I wasn't just responding to the first line of a cheesy Three Dog Night song from the 70s with the second line to a cheesy [/i]Three Dog Night[/i] song from the 70s. I'm scum through-and-through; signaling my master in my second post of day 1. You, sir, are a Mafia genius.

At the moment this is our likeliest symp I think, notice also the Capital M in Mafia at the end

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

Because Nim is playing for the end game. Think about it. Best case scenerio, it ends up being 3 scum versus 2 town. The 2 town will never be lynched and cannot be killed unless scum wants to do a "trading queens" chess move. And the longer those 2 townies are alive, the higher probability that they will hit one of us to even the odds through a lynch without the "trade" clause.

So I guess our choice is, do we want to kill the healer early on to make sure that town doesn't have that certainty (even if it means one of the two of us dies, leaving the other to melt into the morass), or do we want to play the odds that we can get to the end of the game with 2 scum vs 2 town (which means we win).

Our D-day is either at 7 people (lynch will make it 3 to 3) or 5 people (if we lose one of us, 2 to 2). That's how I see it.

We may just need to off Nim before town can wrap their head around this sharp idea.

Yeah there would be no way to win if only one of the scum team survived and both the roles were revealed and alive, but I I don't think we should try to go for Nimander this early either, especially now when we have some clue about who our symp is. Not worth the risk of getting killed by BG imo. I'm just happy that it was probably really the Doc who revealed and not the BG, as in that case the BG would be the one with free hands.

Agree with trying to get the BG as our first priority and worrying about who the healer targets only as second

Osserc's a sensible choice, I was thinking Galain looks a bit roleish to me but I need to reread a bit

yeah and Ampelas needs not my confirmation to change provisionals neither

[Path-Shaper]

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:

I have had Kruppe(Denul) as my symp once before and he made it quite obvious in the game, it's why I give the signal more weight than I'd usually do, it fits him as symp well

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

Rashan has to be Ment right?

I don't want him around if I'm alive for endgame, he always somehow nails me when I'm scum

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Also I'm GMT+1 and usually around from about 7AM more or less whole day

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

Although Kilava's vote for Galain after the two of them voted for me looked to me like a possbile symp move at the time too

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 02:54 PM, said:

And it would be nicee to get rid of Khell as soon as possible too

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 02:54 PM, said:

I am in Colorado USA. So how does that work for us?

Yeah, definitely want to nix some of the thinkers. My first priority is the BG, second the healer, and third the thinkers. It looks like Galain may have sunk himself. We will see. But it may be better to kill the healer before the BG reveals, because then they won't have the alliance. And it will throw some confusion on thread. Let's still consider it, maybe doing it day 2, even if the BG will probably reveal by then?

But yeah, like where you are thinking.

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 03:02 PM, said:

There's also always some chance that the BG will target somewhere else thinking it's unlikely we would target Nimander. Yeah I'm for waiting atleast this night too see how we fare and decide how to proceed from there

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 04:32 PM, said:

If you make it to tonight...

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 04:33 PM, said:

Make sure, if things look grim, to send me all your thoughts!

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 04:42 PM, said:

I will

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 05:02 PM, said:

Awesome. So what do you think I should do to keep the heat off you? And let me know if and when I should try to kill you.

The Galain case is simple but stupid. The Kilava case is too meta which is a great way to look for people, but damn hard to explain/make a case on. Any hand holds on Rashan? I would like him to die.

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

Don't think you should do anything to help me now, I will go off about 5h30m before timeout, maybe you should get on my train as like 4th regardless of how bad it looks wih me, but if not then I think you should totakky atleast hammer me, but I'll have to leave that to you.

Rashan hasn't given much to hold on to, nothing extraordinary comes to mind

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 06:20 PM, said:

Figured out a way to draw up a case on Kilava. I see what you are saying with wishy washy. Hope others will be able to see that too.

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 06:21 PM, said:

The case on Kilava is consistent what I have said earlier. I am torn whether or not I can be on your train when I said you were a symp. We'll see if anyone can "Blow me away" with better arguments than your jokes suck.

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 06:25 PM, said:

That's a solid reasoning you've got there, you said it way better than me

I'll just blame it on being high

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

Another thing about the signal by Denul is what Galain pointed out at some point, it's very defensive for such a trifle, I really think it's deliberate signal

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

Me 2. I will definitely leave Denul alone unless I can find a way to use him for our benefit (I am notorious for killing Symps). But for now, he is useful.

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

And you have the train leaving the station! Well, we'll see if Kilava gets more attention, but if they lynch you, the best case scenerio is they label me as a symp. Right? Sigh.

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

Case on you is weak ass though. Lucky bastards.

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 07:26 PM, said:

Re you labeled symp - actually I thought that'd likely be the case, too ballsy move for a killer
But I thought my play would be too ballsy to be scum too

Yeah I have to read their arguments again and put up some defence

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 07:38 PM, said:

I am going to have an epiphany soon I think. Where I basically REALIZE that maybe the reason I have you both down as symps is one of you are scum?

Dunno, that may just look even more suspicious.

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Maybe just wait if someone says something more serious against me and then agree that they may have a point or something, it wouldn't look like such a sudden turn

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 07:50 PM, said:

Ok, sounds good. I will hold off. Just trying to think how to extricate myself or build a countercase down the road ("I was on the same train as the killer! Say it isn't so ::innocent face:.

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

Why is Denul not posting anything though?

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

No clue. Maybe it is Galain that is our symp?

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 08:11 PM, said:

Yeah barring Jalan nobody else seems possible ATM

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

Denul's absence could be sign of trying to avoid the crucial moments of day and look like not very useful townie, indicating a role

Kilava's smoothness could work as a role indication too, but that's not as likely imo

Then the two lowposters, yeah I still think that Osserc's the best shot at BG tonight.

Well for all I know it could easily be Rashan too. Khell is probably keeping down, if you identify him there's good chances he's roled

This might end up with a no lynch, that wouldn't be bad at all

Going to read a book now for a while then heading to bed

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

Sounds good. Sleep well.

Silchas Ruin, on 09 May 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:

Thanks, you too

And good luck if I don't make it

Just wondering whether I should switch to Osserc or not

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 10:27 PM, said:

Dunno, up to you. If they get your CF back, they will scrutinize each move you make. Plus he is dying tonight anyway.

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 10:27 PM, said:

I am hoping those instincts are honed to picking up roled players like mine. I always kill roled town in these games.

Ampelas, on 09 May 2017 - 10:58 PM, said:

well, I guess Kilava has made a decision. Feels a little late for an ephiphany.

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 01:45 AM, said:

On my own. Winning this game will take a miracle.

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 02:30 AM, said:

And there is our symp (:facepalm:)... I am so fucked. I guess I fucked myself as well getting entangled in SR and the Kilava case.

To all of you reading this at the end in spoiler heaven, sorry to make the hunt so easy.

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 03:01 AM, said:

Bored bored. Having fun poking at Nim though. Is that Tattersail? Doesn't quite seem like him...

Silchas Ruin, on 10 May 2017 - 03:15 AM, said:

I had fun poking him with my vote too...

Can I post here when I'm technically dead?

[Path-Shaper]

Silchas Ruin, on 10 May 2017 - 03:15 AM, said:

I had fun poking him with my vote too...

Can I post here when I'm technically dead?

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 03:52 AM, said:

Not sure. I guess it is fine as long as you don't talk about what you know about the game? Ask PS when he magically appears.

I do like company

Silchas Ruin, on 10 May 2017 - 04:47 AM, said:

When he appears (that should be about 8 hours) I'll be dead for good, I meant if I can talk here in the meantime
I'll just avoid talking about serious game stuff like who the symp might be and so on I guess

I've played this terribly

Silchas Ruin, on 10 May 2017 - 04:49 AM, said:

And your alting game is weak

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

It always is. That's why I don't bother usually.

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 12:45 PM, said:

You should see me try to recognize people in the real world.

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 02:41 PM, said:

Yes.

HAHAHAHHA. Gotcha Bliss.

Sadly, not Bole. Will try again.

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 08:21 PM, said:

Well, here goes testing the water. Will those who know me see consistent town play (I usually am smoother as town) and move on. Or will they lynch me despite how obvious it is I am scum

Ampelas, on 10 May 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

Not through the woods. And playing a mindfuck by appealing to their perspective of what is intelligent and stupid. Hey, if I win, it wasn't stupid, right?







..... so not going to win. Got to find that fucking BG.





So here is what we are doing tonight PS. I am going to keep fucking with their minds. NO KILL TONIGHT. Love to see what the healer does with that.

Plus, I want a few more chances to lynch that damned BG before I risk my own hide.

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 02:08 AM, said:

So just in case anyone is wondering....

I believe denul to be my symp, which is perfect because I am hoping to use him as street cred for me as well as getting someone else killed.

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

Yeah, Rashan has me pegged. I think I am not of this world much longer. Though, the Denul case coupled with me not jumping onto the SR train is sowing enough doubt for me to get a day or two extra. I am hoping the lack of a kill tonight coupled with a chance to get rid of the BG via lynching will give me a shot. But it is a very long shot (and I understand Denul's despair acutely. I am sorry my symp. Desperate times and all).

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 07:17 PM, said:

Starting to become a minor cluster fuck down there. Now the question is, if we end up at parity, can scum win? If not, BG needs to reveal. I am definitely wishing I knew who the BG was, and hoping that we accidentally lynch the fucker. As soon as that happens, Nim is sooooo dead.

Btw, can the healer heal themself this game Blend?

I would never give you information about someone else's role, who do you think I am?

The role PM is posted in the OPs.

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 07:55 PM, said:

I figured it was a good question. You would tell the healer whether or not he/she could heal themself. Why can't I ask?

And I changed my mind.

Kill Jalan

No way he is BG

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

Well Denul, I rescued you from being called a symp, no? Hope I was wrong about you being Symp. And if you are BG, I would reveal about now...

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Bauchlein, the friendly killer who offers to hammer and no one takes him up on it. How rude!

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Quoted for posterity:

"When I'm Scum I don't give a rat's ass who the Symp is. Now You Know.

I see the train gaining unstoppable momentum. So be it. I'll CF as Town and you'll STILL be dealing with one Killer and his Symp. But I'm STILL looking forward to be in on the Town win when it comes to pass. "

Though, Denul, I do care. Just not enough to prevent the bus to roll over you.

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 08:20 PM, said:

Galain my symp? Please please please. He has got Ment's number.

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 08:23 PM, said:

Well that went better than expected. Now I need to figure out if I should kill again tonight or not.

Hey PS. Can you answer me this? If there is a BG and healer vs me and my symp, does scum win?

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

If Galain is my symp, he is ballsy.

I like that.

Yes, parity is still a win for scum.

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

Awwwwwwesome.

Let's hope I have a symp, still.

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

Hope you are enjoying this from heaven my faithful companion.

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 09:14 PM, said:

For now Kill Merrid

If the BG reveals, cancel all kills till I say otherwise

Ampelas, on 11 May 2017 - 10:34 PM, said:

Ok, whelp, apparently Merrid is untouchable (though if I was BG, I would be relieved not to protect Nim. That guy is the death of town). So change in provisional

Remove all previous orders.

Kill Kilava

if dead

Kill Rashan

if the BG reveals, cancel all kills until I say otherwise

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 03:38 AM, said:

I feel like these last statement/sum-ups damn the person writing them. But damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 03:41 AM, said:

Ok, vote and case written. Hopefully Nim is still onboard and pushes through a Kilava lynch. Then, if he truly is sticking with Merrid and not just faking it, I can knock of Rashan and parity? Fingers crossed.

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

This is an interesting pickle I have myself in. So Kilava, after rereading day 2, seems strangely like a symp. Add to that the possibility that Galain is a symp as well, and all of the sudden, I am uncertain if I should kill someone tonight.

I also doubt, highly, that merrid is going to be healed tonight. I sense a subtle undertone to Nim's play where he says one thing but really is going to do something else. Bombast on thread, subterfuge off of thread.

Which is why I am hesitant to kill Rash. I really think there is a a high likelihood he'll be protected. If anyone is suspecting me, they know that Rash has been the greatest danger to me, and I am itching to knock him off. And I really don't want to be killed by Amby Bole.

I think I will keep things as is for now. Doesn't look like the pressure of the weekend is going to induce a sense of urgent stupidity (le sigh). Just hope I have mindfucked everyone enough to keep me alive for 1 more day/night cycle.

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

This has turned out to be a good game though. I think whichever side wins truly will deserve it.

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

Cancel all actions and kills

Do not kill anyone tonight.

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Stand off time.

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

OMFG, I missed Rashan's reveal. I was like "Why is everyone calling him the bodyguard" etc etc.

Well, that is just too bad. I would have loved to kill him off, and Ment with a role.... hope I have fucked around in his head enough. He is going a bit neurotic.

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

And cue the night...

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 07:36 PM, said:

Huzzah, everyone survived...

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

I thought there was a clause that if nothing happened long enough, either town or scum lose? I don't see that in the rules so I assume that won't be the case.

Till then: provisional

Kill no one


the Bible forbids it after all.

Ampelas, on 12 May 2017 - 09:57 PM, said:

Well, alrighty then. We will see where this impasse takes us. I ain't playing their game.

Ampelas, on 13 May 2017 - 05:58 AM, said:

So with time to think about it, here is what I am doing:

Remove all previous orders.

Attempt to Kill Rashan every night until dead from here on out.


So this is how I see the end game. If I do not have a symp, I lose 2 to 1 because there will be no way for me to kill the roled town. Basically it will come to everyone being lynched one by one until WCS it is down to only roled players.

That is if Rash and Nim don't get cocky. If I can kill Rash (I would be an idiot to try and kill anyone else) then even if I am the last scum I have a chance.

Now, if I still have a symp, all we have to do is carefully kill off 2 more town and we win at parity. this is why I am not killing anyone else. If I kill my symp, my chances will drop down to nil (again, unless Rash and Nim get cocky).

But other than this, I will just sit and wait them out, pinging Rash like a hacker.

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas, on 15 May 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

Glad I have work today. Things are kind of imploding on thread down there..

Ampelas, on 15 May 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

Was it Venge who wrote that warning btw? Needed more swearing imho.

Ampelas, on 15 May 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Hard to walk this line between talking too much and talking too little. I love how people's suspicions just keep sliding off of me. Keep it up Kilava, Merrid, and Galain. All three of you are far better candidates the more you keep spouting.

Ampelas, on 15 May 2017 - 10:04 PM, said:

OMFG. The bag of dicks has been brought forth.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

This end game sucks. Bored.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 02:39 PM, said:

Well, Gala in is magic. Got to be khells and got to be scum.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 03:52 PM, said:

Starting to fucking hate Rash and Min. This game is dragging on and on. Glad Galain is still motivated. Only reason I post is it would look worse if I disappeared.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 05:17 PM, said:

Well, rage approach didn't work. I guess the vote on me by Galain is a distractoe to throw confusion. Definitely not earning my keep, sorry team scus

remove kill orders and now kill Kilava, and if dead, Merrid

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 06:01 PM, said:

Well, town is a goddamn clusterfuck. If only Merrid would go down. Then we knock out Kilava and boom. Scum win

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 06:34 PM, said:

6-7 hours left. Will this fucking game ever end!!!

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 06:44 PM, said:

Oh Rash.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 07:17 PM, said:

NOT THE CHART!!! ANYTHING BUT THE CHART!!!!

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 07:19 PM, said:

Fucking A. Can't we decide on someone to lynch! Tempting to say I am the killer and just be done with it.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

Do I like have a legion of symps down there? I think if we don't hear from Rash for a while, we should consider calling an ambulance to his place for possible ruptured aneurysm.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Aha! I knew I had alted PS as Blend correctly!

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

Damn, who is PS again? damn those sunglasses.

Venge. Definitely Venge.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Umm, but I thought there was always more swearing then...

Uhm..... Fuck you. Eat a bag of dicks.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

VEEEEENNNGGEEE!!!!

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

So I am assuming from his behavior that Galain is definitely Khells and definitely my symp. If merrid hits 3 votes, I am hammering.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 09:17 PM, said:

Come on, someone go to L-1. Puhlease.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 09:20 PM, said:

Swear, just want to kill someone.

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

Longest DDay ever....

Ampelas, on 16 May 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

whistles boredly

Ampelas, on 17 May 2017 - 12:05 AM, said:

New provisional:

If there is no lynch, Kill Rash.

Otherwise, follow previous orders if lynch (kill Kilava or Merrid depending on which is still alive)

Ampelas, on 17 May 2017 - 01:14 AM, said:

Well, get to test out if Nim really is covering Rash, or trying to be cute.

Ampelas, on 17 May 2017 - 01:20 AM, said:

Sorry Ment to be a complete and utter dick to you. I am trying to keep you from thinking clear.

[Tattersail_]

Wow, so if Rashan got his head out of his arse and voted Merrid, Amp would have hammered hoping to win Fucking A! Brilliant. That would have been great.