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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:21 AM

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Meet the 400-pound robots that will soon patrol parking lots, offices, and malls
By Kyle Wiggers — April 27, 2017 9:30 AM

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Chances are you haven’t heard of Knightscope, a security startup founded way back in 2013. But it won’t be long before you come face to face with one of its strange creations: the K5.

The K5 is a 400-pound, 6-foot tall autonomous security robot that roves parking lot aisles, the hallways of office campuses, sports stadium foyers, and shopping malls on the prowl for suspicious activity. Looking something like a mix between a Dalek from Doctor Who and Eve from Wall-E, it packs sensors like a LIDAR (light detection and ranging) array and cameras that help it differentiate between a harmless passerby and potential criminal, and it feeds all that data to the cloud.

Stacy Stephens, a former police officer who co-founded the company in after the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, described Knightscope’s robots as a compliment to human law enforcement. Rather than replace human police officers and private security guards, the robots — which Knightscope calls “fully autonomous security data machines” — fill in the blind spots.

Those areas where guards refuse to patrol. Knightscope’s robots have been deployed under dangerous bridges in San Francisco, crime-ridden public parking lots, and homeless encampments. One Knightschope client in southern California managed to bring break-ins to a halt, Stephen told Digital Trends.

The company’s secret sauce is sensors. Lots of them. Knightscope’s robots pack infrared cameras sharp enough to make out license plates, and onboard wireless that identifies smartphones down to the MAC and IP addresses. On the backend, Knightscope can blacklist individual phones, faces, or even cars. When an intruder is detected, the company alerts its clients.

Knightscope stores all that data for posterity, too, for as long as clients wish — in some cases up to 15 years. An individual robot uploads more than 90 terabytes of data a year via Wi-Fi and cellular, Stephen said.

The robots, which come in two models — one for indoor use and one for outdoor use — are available on a subscription basis. Knightscope’s plans start at about $7 an hour for 24/7 surveillance (about $62,000 annually), and include monthly software updates, maintenance, and remote assistance from the company’s 2,000 technicians.

Knightscope sees potential for its robots just about everywhere. It counts Microsoft, Juniper Networks, the Sacramento Kings, and NBC Universal among its current clients. This year, it expects to sign contracts with a mall in New York, an electric utility in Florida, a monitoring and response center in Texas, a pharmaceutical company and mall in Massachusetts, and a corporate campus in California.

In total, Knightscope plans to service 17 clients in 16 cities across five states by the end of 2017.

It’s filed a mini-IPO earlier this year to help achieve that objective. So far, it’s raised $15 million, and aims to raise an additional $20 million in the near future.

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I recommend watching the video in the link.

These things are scary. They're basically just a glorified roomba but they're huge! Attach some arms to those things and I would run so fast if I saw one of those coming at me.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 03:34 AM

Someone already got arrested for assaulting one: https://www.cnet.com...silicon-valley/
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:37 AM

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The company’s secret sauce is sensors. Lots of them. Knightscope’s robots pack infrared cameras sharp enough to make out license plates, and onboard wireless that identifies smartphones down to the MAC and IP addresses. On the backend, Knightscope can blacklist individual phones, faces, or even cars. When an intruder is detected, the company alerts its clients.

Knightscope stores all that data for posterity, too, for as long as clients wish — in some cases up to 15 years. An individual robot uploads more than 90 terabytes of data a year via Wi-Fi and cellular, Stephen said.




This is probably concerning. Especially in a public place, or semi-public place like "under bridges", it's kind of aggressive to be identifying smartphones (and by extension, people) as a default measure. And then storing the data.


That being said, this was always coming. I'm trying to imagine a sci-fi movie that didn't have some form of robot drone rolling around for security - often employed by the police, but also by private companies. Next step, giving them hologram projectors so they can disguise themselves! And then a mini AI so they can interact with people to answer questions etc.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:54 AM

Dalek's are finally here?
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:59 AM

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At least we can protect us with stairs until they learn how to fly.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:09 AM

Yay, Minority Report!

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:15 AM

View Postworry, on 28 April 2017 - 03:34 AM, said:

Someone already got arrested for assaulting one: https://www.cnet.com...silicon-valley/


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It's easy to imagine these robots are innocent beings, there only for the good of mankind. Last year, however, a mom and dad accused a robot of mowing down their child at a shopping mall, causing injury.


The first casualties in the war between man and robot have already happened.

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The company’s secret sauce is sensors. Lots of them. Knightscope’s robots pack infrared cameras sharp enough to make out license plates, and onboard wireless that identifies smartphones down to the MAC and IP addresses. On the backend, Knightscope can blacklist individual phones, faces, or even cars. When an intruder is detected, the company alerts its clients.

Knightscope stores all that data for posterity, too, for as long as clients wish — in some cases up to 15 years. An individual robot uploads more than 90 terabytes of data a year via Wi-Fi and cellular, Stephen said.




This is probably concerning. Especially in a public place, or semi-public place like "under bridges", it's kind of aggressive to be identifying smartphones (and by extension, people) as a default measure. And then storing the data.


That being said, this was always coming. I'm trying to imagine a sci-fi movie that didn't have some form of robot drone rolling around for security - often employed by the police, but also by private companies. Next step, giving them hologram projectors so they can disguise themselves! And then a mini AI so they can interact with people to answer questions etc.

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Considering what I've heard about America and what goes on under bridges, I'd probably be more happy about sending a robot in there than a guard.

What I find more curious is that the design of that thing seems very delicate. I can't see it handling uneven surfaces, sharp inclines, curbs, cobble stones, etc. very well. I guess you could just give it some off-road tires but still.

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Dalek's are finally here?



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At least we can protect us with stairs until they learn how to fly.


You can fight the guys in Watch Dogs 2 from Ubisoft. They pretty much just stand there while you smack them around.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 12:44 PM

Time to bust out the ol' lasso! It's not considered assault to just harmlessly place a rope around the robot and tie it to a lamp post, right?

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 01:32 PM

There is a battery joke in there somewhere, i can just feel it.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 01:37 PM

View PostHoosierDaddy, on 28 April 2017 - 04:54 AM, said:

Dalek's are finally here?


This was my first thought too. These things would be AWESOME if someone hacked them to shout "EXTERMINATE!"....people would shit their pants!
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 01:48 PM

View PostGorefest, on 28 April 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

There is a battery joke in there somewhere, i can just feel it.


I think they just run on the blood they siphon from the Hobos they crush under bridges at night.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 04:00 PM

Ah. Assault=battery?
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:31 PM

View PostGorefest, on 28 April 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

Ah. Assault=battery?


Depending on where you are, the two are interchangeable. An intentional infliction of harm..... Blah blah blah. I hate law now.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:33 PM

And in other jurisdictions, assault doesn't require physical contact but battery does.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:46 PM

View Postworry, on 28 April 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

And in other jurisdictions, assault doesn't require physical contact but battery does.


Stop it! I hate law!

But yes. Try suing someone for verbal assault, though.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:01 PM

I meant that when they assault they have the blood to power their bat...nevermind...
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:47 PM

Blood powered machines.... Powered by blood but still machines? Singularity here we come!
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 10:04 PM

As a general rule, assault is the criminal component (where the state does bad things to whomever violated the law, because upholding the law makes society better), whereas battery is the name of the tort (that is, where the injured party seeks compensation for themselves)

I'm far more interested in the privacy implications. Surely there should be regulation in place to prevent private Corp from collecting people's pictures and the ID info of their phone, etc. Since you KNOW the Corp will eventually start selling this data to other commercial data-sniffers.

I'd expect both EU and CA regulators to raise hell when they try to introduce this there.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:42 PM

View Postworry, on 28 April 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

And in other jurisdictions, assault doesn't require physical contact but battery does.

That's pretty much how British law sees it, despite it being labelled assault when charging someone, regardless.
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Posted 18 July 2017 - 02:48 AM

And then...

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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