[Osseric]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

It's simple fucking math. If the Sorcerer had an unlimited amount of resurrections, there would be almost no way for town to win the game. All he would have to do is let us lynch anyone but him, then keep resurrecting whoever we lynched. Eventually he would control the numbers, and the game would be over.

I mean, you're probably right. You seem to know more than me. Me, I didn't even want to be here, as I'm made perfectly well clear. You know, you must be right - there's not even a word for the things you describe here, so it couldn't possibly be the case. What was I thinking?

Oh say, unrelatedly, do you know what a 'cult' is?

No matter, probably not important.

[Galain]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 April 2017 - 09:53 AM, said:

Ah yes, this was it.

Denul, on 27 April 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

I think there's a good chance it was a one-time deal. Otherwise the Sorcerer could just keep bringing back dead players under his control and there would be no way for the rest of us to win.

I don't really get why you say this. Now you know I'm the most optimistic type of optimist around, but I think I've got to remind you of our situation here. We're locked up, in a creepy church, with a murderous, magic-wielding mysterioso, a swivel-eyed loon who's already shot his load, another guy who likes to masturbate over dead people, one corpse, and, oh yeah, two not-corpses! So pardon me if I take your 'good chance' with a hefty pinch of salt.

Geez, you people are dense.

It's simple fucking math. If the Sorcerer had an unlimited amount of resurrections, there would be almost no way for town to win the game. All he would have to do is let us lynch anyone but him, then keep resurrecting whoever we lynched. Eventually he would control the numbers, and the game would be over.

So... One, maybe two resurrections. I'm pretty confident in that, and will remain so until I see another resurrection by the Sorcerer.

We would just need to lynch the recruiter once. It gets harder as the game progresses because of people defending him.

[Denul]

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 01:45 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 April 2017 - 09:53 AM, said:

Ah yes, this was it.

Denul, on 27 April 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

I think there's a good chance it was a one-time deal. Otherwise the Sorcerer could just keep bringing back dead players under his control and there would be no way for the rest of us to win.

I don't really get why you say this. Now you know I'm the most optimistic type of optimist around, but I think I've got to remind you of our situation here. We're locked up, in a creepy church, with a murderous, magic-wielding mysterioso, a swivel-eyed loon who's already shot his load, another guy who likes to masturbate over dead people, one corpse, and, oh yeah, two not-corpses! So pardon me if I take your 'good chance' with a hefty pinch of salt.

Geez, you people are dense.

It's simple fucking math. If the Sorcerer had an unlimited amount of resurrections, there would be almost no way for town to win the game. All he would have to do is let us lynch anyone but him, then keep resurrecting whoever we lynched. Eventually he would control the numbers, and the game would be over.

So... One, maybe two resurrections. I'm pretty confident in that, and will remain so until I see another resurrection by the Sorcerer.

Well, every game leads to eventual scum victory if we don't lynch every significant baddie before they control the numbers

Yeah, but it would be different if we couldn't fucking kill anyone cause the sorcerer just kept bringing them back to life. There'd be NO WAY for town to win EXCEPT to lynch the Sorcerer, and hope that he hasn't brought enough people back from the dead under his control to rule the thread.

I don't understand why everyone is so resistant to this idea. It's numbers, it's basic Mafia theory for Christ's sake.

[Silchas Ruin]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 01:45 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 April 2017 - 09:53 AM, said:

Ah yes, this was it.

Denul, on 27 April 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

I think there's a good chance it was a one-time deal. Otherwise the Sorcerer could just keep bringing back dead players under his control and there would be no way for the rest of us to win.

I don't really get why you say this. Now you know I'm the most optimistic type of optimist around, but I think I've got to remind you of our situation here. We're locked up, in a creepy church, with a murderous, magic-wielding mysterioso, a swivel-eyed loon who's already shot his load, another guy who likes to masturbate over dead people, one corpse, and, oh yeah, two not-corpses! So pardon me if I take your 'good chance' with a hefty pinch of salt.

Geez, you people are dense.

It's simple fucking math. If the Sorcerer had an unlimited amount of resurrections, there would be almost no way for town to win the game. All he would have to do is let us lynch anyone but him, then keep resurrecting whoever we lynched. Eventually he would control the numbers, and the game would be over.

So... One, maybe two resurrections. I'm pretty confident in that, and will remain so until I see another resurrection by the Sorcerer.

Well, every game leads to eventual scum victory if we don't lynch every significant baddie before they control the numbers

Yeah, but it would be different if we couldn't fucking kill anyone cause the sorcerer just kept bringing them back to life. There'd be NO WAY for town to win EXCEPT to lynch the Sorcerer, and hope that he hasn't brought enough people back from the dead under his control to rule the thread.

I don't understand why everyone is so resistant to this idea. It's numbers, it's basic Mafia theory for Christ's sake.

There's never any way for town to win except to lynch the significant scum

[Osseric]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 01:45 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 April 2017 - 09:53 AM, said:

Ah yes, this was it.

Denul, on 27 April 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

I think there's a good chance it was a one-time deal. Otherwise the Sorcerer could just keep bringing back dead players under his control and there would be no way for the rest of us to win.

I don't really get why you say this. Now you know I'm the most optimistic type of optimist around, but I think I've got to remind you of our situation here. We're locked up, in a creepy church, with a murderous, magic-wielding mysterioso, a swivel-eyed loon who's already shot his load, another guy who likes to masturbate over dead people, one corpse, and, oh yeah, two not-corpses! So pardon me if I take your 'good chance' with a hefty pinch of salt.

Geez, you people are dense.

It's simple fucking math. If the Sorcerer had an unlimited amount of resurrections, there would be almost no way for town to win the game. All he would have to do is let us lynch anyone but him, then keep resurrecting whoever we lynched. Eventually he would control the numbers, and the game would be over.

So... One, maybe two resurrections. I'm pretty confident in that, and will remain so until I see another resurrection by the Sorcerer.

Well, every game leads to eventual scum victory if we don't lynch every significant baddie before they control the numbers

Yeah, but it would be different if we couldn't fucking kill anyone cause the sorcerer just kept bringing them back to life. There'd be NO WAY for town to win EXCEPT to lynch the Sorcerer, and hope that he hasn't brought enough people back from the dead under his control to rule the thread.

I don't understand why everyone is so resistant to this idea. It's numbers, it's basic Mafia theory for Christ's sake.

Yes, I see now. So what you're saying is, that in this scenario, we would have a limited number of days in which to catch the bad guy, before we're overwhelmed and find ourselves unable to oppose them.

You're right, that would be an insane thing to believe in this situation we find ourselves in.

[Jalan]

Denul, you need to answer Rashan's question of #358, even though it was posted as a statement, asking for proof of evilness, so I can speak my peace on the matter.

[Denul]

Anyway, speculating on the Sorcerer's abilities is all WIFOM and a waste of time. Since none of you can fucking pick up on hints and run with it...

I am the Father. I resurrected Silchas. My resurrection ability is a one-time thing, this is the main reason I doubt the sorcerer's is more than once.

Given I know that Silchas is Innocent because that's what he flipped before I resurrected him, I know for certain based on the scene that Rashan was resurrected by the Sorcerer. It stands to reason that if the Sorcerer resurrected someone, it's not so that they can be a happy townie again. That would be stupid.

So, Silchas is back, the Channeler is alive, folks! I'll be leaving my heal on him, and I have a BP, so he'll get a minimum of 2 nights to do whatever it is he does, assuming I get targeted tonight and again tomorrow night for the kill. If he wastes his time trying to kill Silchas, even better.

So, my vote remains on Rashan, and I still recommend you guys do the same. That's a sure hit on the scum team. Anyone who keeps pushing at the idea is likely fucking scum.

[Denul]

Osseric, on 28 April 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Yes, I see now. So what you're saying is, that in this scenario, we would have a limited number of days in which to catch the bad guy, before we're overwhelmed and find ourselves unable to oppose them.

You're right, that would be an insane thing to believe in this situation we find ourselves in.

WTF is wrong with you people? You realize that this is not a fucking M&P right? Like, there are likely fucking roles no one knows about? RIGHT?! How the fuck would YOU know that the lynch is the only way for us to win in this game?

[Silchas Ruin]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Anyway, speculating on the Sorcerer's abilities is all WIFOM and a waste of time. Since none of you can fucking pick up on hints and run with it...

So, my vote remains on Rashan, and I still recommend you guys do the same. That's a sure hit on the scum team. Anyone who keeps pushing at the idea is likely fucking scum.

Us not sharing what we picked up of your hints doesn't mean we didn't pick up anything. There wasn't need to share any additional information. I'm not running around announcing what my abilities are neither am I?

Also considering how everyone has been mainly just fucking around this day I judged that lynching Rashan has basically been already decided.

[Osseric]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 April 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Yes, I see now. So what you're saying is, that in this scenario, we would have a limited number of days in which to catch the bad guy, before we're overwhelmed and find ourselves unable to oppose them.

You're right, that would be an insane thing to believe in this situation we find ourselves in.

WTF is wrong with you people? You realize that this is not a fucking M&P right? Like, there are likely fucking roles no one knows about? RIGHT?! How the fuck would YOU know that the lynch is the only way for us to win in this game?

Father, please calm down! You musn't get so distressed in your decrepitude. Look, here, why don't we play a nice, relaxing game to calm us all down. Has anyone here ever heard of a game called MAFIA?

[Silchas Ruin]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 April 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Yes, I see now. So what you're saying is, that in this scenario, we would have a limited number of days in which to catch the bad guy, before we're overwhelmed and find ourselves unable to oppose them.

You're right, that would be an insane thing to believe in this situation we find ourselves in.

WTF is wrong with you people? You realize that this is not a fucking M&P right? Like, there are likely fucking roles no one knows about? RIGHT?! How the fuck would YOU know that the lynch is the only way for us to win in this game?

Yes. Lynch of the Sorceror.

Either way I believe that the best way to test that is just to lynch Rashan and see what happens. In the meantime try not to reveal your password to us.

[Jalan]

Path-Shaper, on 27 April 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

After the shame of hanging an innocent man, the mob disperse for the night.

The Father prays over the bodies of the dead men and beseeches his God to spare their souls. God is listening and answers the prayer of his chosen, returning one of the dead to life to aid in the fight to recover the stolen tome.

Meanwhile, the Sorcerer uses the time to pour over the tome, looking to unlock its dark secrets. His eyes continue to be drawn back to a single page again and again until the spell becomes clear to his eyes. This is exactly the type of spell to bring him to power. He uses it and comes into his new power as a Master of the Undead.

Upon waking to find two men returned from the realms of death, the Father gathers everyone again to try to decipher the mystery and find the true thief.

Silchas Ruin has returned to the game.

Rashan has returned to the game.

What I was going to post is that PS makes clear the Father resurrected first, and then the Sorcerer, and while it may only be circumstantial that Silchas' name is mentioned before Rashan, there would be less doubt that the Father would want to resurrect the Innocent Channeler Silchas over Rashan.

[Denul]

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 April 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

After the shame of hanging an innocent man, the mob disperse for the night.

The Father prays over the bodies of the dead men and beseeches his God to spare their souls. God is listening and answers the prayer of his chosen, returning one of the dead to life to aid in the fight to recover the stolen tome.

Meanwhile, the Sorcerer uses the time to pour over the tome, looking to unlock its dark secrets. His eyes continue to be drawn back to a single page again and again until the spell becomes clear to his eyes. This is exactly the type of spell to bring him to power. He uses it and comes into his new power as a Master of the Undead.

Upon waking to find two men returned from the realms of death, the Father gathers everyone again to try to decipher the mystery and find the true thief.

Silchas Ruin has returned to the game.

Rashan has returned to the game.

What I was going to post is that PS makes clear the Father resurrected first, and then the Sorcerer, and while it may only be circumstantial that Silchas' name is mentioned before Rashan, there would be less doubt that the Father would want to resurrect the Innocent Channeler Silchas over Rashan.

WTF does this even mean? Way to state the fucking obvious Jalan.

[Osseric]

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 April 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Yes, I see now. So what you're saying is, that in this scenario, we would have a limited number of days in which to catch the bad guy, before we're overwhelmed and find ourselves unable to oppose them.

You're right, that would be an insane thing to believe in this situation we find ourselves in.

WTF is wrong with you people? You realize that this is not a fucking M&P right? Like, there are likely fucking roles no one knows about? RIGHT?! How the fuck would YOU know that the lynch is the only way for us to win in this game?

Yes. Lynch of the Sorceror.

Either way I believe that the best way to test that is just to lynch Rashan and see what happens. In the meantime try not to reveal your password to us.

*High-fives*.

Man, where I come from (the other side of the village), we call that sort of diss "rep-worthy"!

[Silchas Ruin]

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 April 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

After the shame of hanging an innocent man, the mob disperse for the night.

The Father prays over the bodies of the dead men and beseeches his God to spare their souls. God is listening and answers the prayer of his chosen, returning one of the dead to life to aid in the fight to recover the stolen tome.

Meanwhile, the Sorcerer uses the time to pour over the tome, looking to unlock its dark secrets. His eyes continue to be drawn back to a single page again and again until the spell becomes clear to his eyes. This is exactly the type of spell to bring him to power. He uses it and comes into his new power as a Master of the Undead.

Upon waking to find two men returned from the realms of death, the Father gathers everyone again to try to decipher the mystery and find the true thief.

Silchas Ruin has returned to the game.

Rashan has returned to the game.

What I was going to post is that PS makes clear the Father resurrected first, and then the Sorcerer, and while it may only be circumstantial that Silchas' name is mentioned before Rashan, there would be less doubt that the Father would want to resurrect the Innocent Channeler Silchas over Rashan.

Problem with that is it goes both ways, Sorcerer would want to ressurect a role too since there would be a chance that my abilities would work for scum too/would change to work for scum

[Denul]

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

try not to reveal your password to us.

My password is GOFUCKYOURSELF (all caps)

[Silchas Ruin]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

try not to reveal your password to us.

My password is GOFUCKYOURSELF (all caps)

[Jalan]

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

...
Also considering how everyone has been mainly just fucking around this day I judged that lynching Rashan has basically been already decided.

That's crazy talk. The only way to win the game is to lynch the Sorcerer Thief, and that is clearly NOT Rashan the Minion.

[Jalan]

Silchas Ruin, on 28 April 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 April 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

After the shame of hanging an innocent man, the mob disperse for the night.

The Father prays over the bodies of the dead men and beseeches his God to spare their souls. God is listening and answers the prayer of his chosen, returning one of the dead to life to aid in the fight to recover the stolen tome.

Meanwhile, the Sorcerer uses the time to pour over the tome, looking to unlock its dark secrets. His eyes continue to be drawn back to a single page again and again until the spell becomes clear to his eyes. This is exactly the type of spell to bring him to power. He uses it and comes into his new power as a Master of the Undead.

Upon waking to find two men returned from the realms of death, the Father gathers everyone again to try to decipher the mystery and find the true thief.

Silchas Ruin has returned to the game.

Rashan has returned to the game.

What I was going to post is that PS makes clear the Father resurrected first, and then the Sorcerer, and while it may only be circumstantial that Silchas' name is mentioned before Rashan, there would be less doubt that the Father would want to resurrect the Innocent Channeler Silchas over Rashan.

Problem with that is it goes both ways, Sorcerer would want to ressurect a role too since there would be a chance that my abilities would work for scum too/would change to work for scum

Yes he would, but very clearly the Father's action preceded that of the Sorcerer.

[Jalan]

Denul, on 28 April 2017 - 02:15 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 April 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 April 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

After the shame of hanging an innocent man, the mob disperse for the night.

The Father prays over the bodies of the dead men and beseeches his God to spare their souls. God is listening and answers the prayer of his chosen, returning one of the dead to life to aid in the fight to recover the stolen tome.

Meanwhile, the Sorcerer uses the time to pour over the tome, looking to unlock its dark secrets. His eyes continue to be drawn back to a single page again and again until the spell becomes clear to his eyes. This is exactly the type of spell to bring him to power. He uses it and comes into his new power as a Master of the Undead.

Upon waking to find two men returned from the realms of death, the Father gathers everyone again to try to decipher the mystery and find the true thief.

Silchas Ruin has returned to the game.

Rashan has returned to the game.

What I was going to post is that PS makes clear the Father resurrected first, and then the Sorcerer, and while it may only be circumstantial that Silchas' name is mentioned before Rashan, there would be less doubt that the Father would want to resurrect the Innocent Channeler Silchas over Rashan.

WTF does this even mean? Way to state the fucking obvious Jalan.

Your resurectee doesn't seem to think so.