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Mafia 142 - Rise of the Dark Sorcerer

#581 User is offline   Osseric 

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:27 PM

Hello all! I'm afraid I have been feeling under the weather somewhat, probably lack of sunlight. And I've had my farm on my mind all day, the crops must be dying without me. Anyways, I shall pick myself up, dust myself off, compose my thoughts, and be with you all body and soul in a couple of hours.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:44 PM

Yes, that's what I was saying only with big words. We want to be careful about hammering early again, right?

#583 User is offline   Silchas Ruin 

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:47 PM

View PostJalan, on 02 May 2017 - 07:44 PM, said:

Yes, that's what I was saying only with big words. We want to be careful about hammering early again, right?


Oh if you're refering to my request I actually said that because of the stuff I wanted to reveal, not my NAs

#584 User is offline   Silchas Ruin 

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 08:08 PM

Ampelas, on 02 May 2017 - 08:07 PM, said:

Maybe you should all just vote Merrid.


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 08:12 PM

(yes I can do that)

Merrid's vote does seem hasted

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 08:32 PM

I assume we have time?

I'll be back early morning.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 08:37 PM

The timeout should be at 4AM British time on THURSDAY

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 08:39 PM

Hmmmmm.... So yeah, I'm on the it's most likely Nimander thing based on the info that Silchas gave us. Will hold off on my vote for now.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 09:19 PM

Ampelas, on 02 May 2017 - 08:48 PM, said:

Thur pointed out that Merrid and Galain both voted Nim. He doesn't like how Galain just took off for several hours and thinks Galain is protecting his minion.

Can I use multi quote between threads?


Turns out he can't

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 09:19 PM

Also

Silchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

I'm really not sure if a master at this stage of game would bother with helping a minion, I even think it's likely that the Sorcerer wouldn't even know the identity of such a minion


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 09:38 PM

Alright, I'm here, just gonna find out what everyone's speculation de jour is.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 10:37 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

Wanted to wait for everyone to share their opinions but I want this out with sufficient time remaining

Thyrllan's guards were(According to Ampelas, who is the one I'm communicating with, and who in turn can communicate with Thyr in purgatory):
N1 - Denul
N2 - Osserc
N3 - Jalan

Which should clear Jalan and Osserc from being the Sorceror afai&tpipk

I've agreed with Ampelas that there is very likely another Sorceror's servant from the very beginning and Ampelas came with a interesting theory that it's actually Merrid who got the shot to help stacking more people to purgatory for all the ressurections. If Nimander was the Sorcerer the theory looks very plausible. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards Nimander being the Sorceror, so is Ampelas
That being said Thyr doesn't believe that Galain actually got Kilava's RI clue and suspects him more.



You can...commune with the dead? And I am to assume this is the good kind of power rather than the evil kind of power? It's all so confusing, but my mind is now open to all possibilities. I guess.

If this is indeed how you say it is, then I would have to give my assent to lynching Nimander also. Of those left, there is simply the least evidence displayed that they are the mute village idiot they claim to be.

As for an accomplice to the Sorceror - a frightening thought indeed. But one I must admit I have entertained myself. We have the Father, the sheriff, a man with a gun - and who knows what else! Surely the Sorceror did not take us so lightly as to think they could doom us all by themselves! Then again, there are the undead minions...and yet, they burn so easily.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 10:41 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

I didn't get it at first. I had to go back and read my pm.


Well obviously you didn't get it at first :clap:

Thyr thinks you didn't actually get it even the second time but just understood what Kilava was on about and pretended to get it in order to look like RI


I believe I raised this point about Galain some time earlier. And about Thyr and Jalan also (though we now know why Thyr was cagey about it). Jalan only switched to Ampelas as far as I remember, without acknowledging Kilava's meaning. And I recall raising my eyebrow at Galain's change in response when t first occurred.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 10:42 PM

View PostMerrid, on 02 May 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

Huh.

Well, I'm not Nimander's minion.

vote Nimander



Perhaps you but seek to become master instead?

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 10:45 PM

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:00 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 02 May 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

Huh.

Well, I'm not Nimander's minion.

vote Nimander



Why does this make you want to vote Nim?



I would have thought that the answers are obvious. While I admire your scepticism, I cannot help but wonder if you have your own motives for coming up with doubts. You previous post questioning the strength of our noble sheriff's guarding is a case in point.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 10:54 PM

Having read through, I still support a Nimander lynch the most. I do not like the tone of the latest exchange emanating from Galain, but at least there we can take into account that they *may* have understood Kilava's signal. But is Galain's vote considered after thinking things through, or after giving up on changing the tide of opinion on Silchas/Thyr's conclusions?

Then there is the smoking gun. Why is Merrid's gun still smoking? I concur that Merrid's vote appears to have come from an urgent desire to uncouple themselves from potential Sorceror connections. Are you not but a lowly townsperson now, without your bullets? Why such a powerful need for self-preservation when we are but servants of a higher cause?

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 01:37 AM

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:00 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 02 May 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

Huh.

Well, I'm not Nimander's minion.

vote Nimander



Why does this make you want to vote Nim?


If we take the reveal as genuine and presume that both kill and recruit powers comes from the sorcerer, then Osserc and Jalan are both cleared from being sorcerer.

This narrows it down to Nimander and you. I'm finding Nimander's lack of participation more scummy than your play

Hence the vote.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 01:41 AM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

Wanted to wait for everyone to share their opinions but I want this out with sufficient time remaining

Thyrllan's guards were(According to Ampelas, who is the one I'm communicating with, and who in turn can communicate with Thyr in purgatory):
N1 - Denul
N2 - Osserc
N3 - Jalan

Which should clear Jalan and Osserc from being the Sorceror afai&tpipk

I've agreed with Ampelas that there is very likely another Sorceror's servant from the very beginning and Ampelas came with a interesting theory that it's actually Merrid who got the shot to help stacking more people to purgatory for all the ressurections. If Nimander was the Sorcerer the theory looks very plausible. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards Nimander being the Sorceror, so is Ampelas
That being said Thyr doesn't believe that Galain actually got Kilava's RI clue and suspects him more.


IF, however, we suppose that the recruit and kill actions are spread between 2 initial team scum, then all we know is:

1) Osserc is not a sorcerer (but he could be a killer)
2) Jalan is not a killer (but he could be a sorcerer)

this gives us 1 in 3 odds looking for each separate role, but you, Galain, and Nim still overlap enough for it to be worth looking that way first, I think*

*Probabilities were never really my forte, I could be way off*

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 07:48 AM

View PostOsseric, on 02 May 2017 - 10:37 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

Wanted to wait for everyone to share their opinions but I want this out with sufficient time remaining

Thyrllan's guards were(According to Ampelas, who is the one I'm communicating with, and who in turn can communicate with Thyr in purgatory):
N1 - Denul
N2 - Osserc
N3 - Jalan

Which should clear Jalan and Osserc from being the Sorceror afai&tpipk

I've agreed with Ampelas that there is very likely another Sorceror's servant from the very beginning and Ampelas came with a interesting theory that it's actually Merrid who got the shot to help stacking more people to purgatory for all the ressurections. If Nimander was the Sorcerer the theory looks very plausible. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards Nimander being the Sorceror, so is Ampelas
That being said Thyr doesn't believe that Galain actually got Kilava's RI clue and suspects him more.



You can...commune with the dead? And I am to assume this is the good kind of power rather than the evil kind of power? It's all so confusing, but my mind is now open to all possibilities. I guess.



You're just jealous they can't say no to me

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 08:07 AM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 03 May 2017 - 07:48 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 02 May 2017 - 10:37 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

Wanted to wait for everyone to share their opinions but I want this out with sufficient time remaining

Thyrllan's guards were(According to Ampelas, who is the one I'm communicating with, and who in turn can communicate with Thyr in purgatory):
N1 - Denul
N2 - Osserc
N3 - Jalan

Which should clear Jalan and Osserc from being the Sorceror afai&tpipk

I've agreed with Ampelas that there is very likely another Sorceror's servant from the very beginning and Ampelas came with a interesting theory that it's actually Merrid who got the shot to help stacking more people to purgatory for all the ressurections. If Nimander was the Sorcerer the theory looks very plausible. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards Nimander being the Sorceror, so is Ampelas
That being said Thyr doesn't believe that Galain actually got Kilava's RI clue and suspects him more.



You can...commune with the dead? And I am to assume this is the good kind of power rather than the evil kind of power? It's all so confusing, but my mind is now open to all possibilities. I guess.



You're just jealous they can't say no to me


*envious

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