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Mafia 142 - Rise of the Dark Sorcerer

#561 User is offline   Silchas Ruin 

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:46 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

I've agreed with Ampelas that there is very likely another Sorceror's servant from the very beginning and Ampelas came with a interesting theory that it's actually Merrid who got the shot to help stacking more people to purgatory for all the ressurections. If Nimander was the Sorcerer the theory looks very plausible. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards Nimander being the Sorceror, so is Ampelas.


Which is partly due to the fact that it would fit nicely in the greater scheme of things

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:47 PM

I didn't get it at first. I had to go back and read my pm.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:47 PM

Bathing baby then i should have "some time"

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:49 PM

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

I didn't get it at first. I had to go back and read my pm.


Well obviously you didn't get it at first :clap:

Thyr thinks you didn't actually get it even the second time but just understood what Kilava was on about and pretended to get it in order to look like RI

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:52 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

I didn't get it at first. I had to go back and read my pm.


Well obviously you didn't get it at first :clap:

Thyr thinks you didn't actually get it even the second time but just understood what Kilava was on about and pretended to get it in order to look like RI


Which as I ahve already stated I think is entirely plausible but without a reread you come off as less scummy than Nimander to me

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 06:41 PM

Huh.

Well, I'm not Nimander's minion.

vote Nimander

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 06:46 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

I didn't get it at first. I had to go back and read my pm.


Well obviously you didn't get it at first :clap:

Thyr thinks you didn't actually get it even the second time but just understood what Kilava was on about and pretended to get it in order to look like RI


It wasn't obvious, ie what did I do to try and put it out there. I did do a post early on, one second I'll go look. And to be clear I didn't "see" the title of the game until someone pointed it out later in the game but anyway...

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 06:53 PM

View PostGalain, on 26 April 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

Yes are you the dark sorcerer?


Wasn't as early as I'd thought..

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 06:54 PM

ThingyO only used string/strung so it wasn't as obvious.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 06:57 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

Wanted to wait for everyone to share their opinions but I want this out with sufficient time remaining

Thyrllan's guards were(According to Ampelas, who is the one I'm communicating with, and who in turn can communicate with Thyr in purgatory):
N1 - Denul
N2 - Osserc
N3 - Jalan

Which should clear Jalan and Osserc from being the Sorceror afai&tpipk

I've agreed with Ampelas that there is very likely another Sorceror's servant from the very beginning and Ampelas came with a interesting theory that it's actually Merrid who got the shot to help stacking more people to purgatory for all the ressurections. If Nimander was the Sorcerer the theory looks very plausible. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards Nimander being the Sorceror, so is Ampelas
That being said Thyr doesn't believe that Galain actually got Kilava's RI clue and suspects him more.



Are we assuming guard blocks recruitment and kill?


How does this clear Jalan and Osserc? We know night 1 recruitment happened and Denul claims to recruit you that night but you are saying he was guarder

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:00 PM

View PostMerrid, on 02 May 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

Huh.

Well, I'm not Nimander's minion.

vote Nimander



Why does this make you want to vote Nim?

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:01 PM

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

Wanted to wait for everyone to share their opinions but I want this out with sufficient time remaining

Thyrllan's guards were(According to Ampelas, who is the one I'm communicating with, and who in turn can communicate with Thyr in purgatory):
N1 - Denul
N2 - Osserc
N3 - Jalan

Which should clear Jalan and Osserc from being the Sorceror afai&tpipk

I've agreed with Ampelas that there is very likely another Sorceror's servant from the very beginning and Ampelas came with a interesting theory that it's actually Merrid who got the shot to help stacking more people to purgatory for all the ressurections. If Nimander was the Sorcerer the theory looks very plausible. Right now I'm heavily leaning towards Nimander being the Sorceror, so is Ampelas
That being said Thyr doesn't believe that Galain actually got Kilava's RI clue and suspects him more.



Are we assuming guard blocks recruitment and kill?


How does this clear Jalan and Osserc? We know night 1 recruitment happened and Denul claims to recruit you that night but you are saying he was guarder


I was

I was also assuming that the kills were coming from the Sorcerer since scum being able to both recruit and kill each night would be too OP

I was dead for the duration of D2, Denul claims to have ressurected me N2

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:02 PM

View PostJalan, on 01 May 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

For me the suspect list is closer to five, including me, but it's not me. I'm more and more liking the idea that we have a would-be svengali on our hands. Could be Osseric. Could be Merrid. Could be someone else. And I'm liking the idea that they checked into the game early on too, out of anticipation of the role.


Svengali? Explain please

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:08 PM

So night one you were killed by unknown.

Rashan was killed by Merrid.

Night 2 you were resurrected by Denul
Rashan was resurrected by unknown

Night 3 have to check but was that Thyrllan killed by unknown

Now night 4 approaches.

Pattern dictates there will be a resurrection.

Jalan and Osserc cleared leaves Nimander and Kilava and kilava did the strung post. There is no way he would know that word was in the ri pm so it has to be Nimander.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:08 PM

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 01 May 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

For me the suspect list is closer to five, including me, but it's not me. I'm more and more liking the idea that we have a would-be svengali on our hands. Could be Osseric. Could be Merrid. Could be someone else. And I'm liking the idea that they checked into the game early on too, out of anticipation of the role.


Svengali? Explain please


"The word "svengali" has come to refer to a person who, with evil intent, dominates, manipulates, and controls a creative person such as a singer or an actor. In court, a Svengali defense is a legal tactic that purports the defendant to be a pawn in the scheme of a greater, and more influential, criminal mastermind."

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:10 PM

If it isn't Nimander then someone's lying somewhere along the line yet I know I'll be lynched because its logical.

vote nimander

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:10 PM

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

So night one you were killed by unknown.

Rashan was killed by Merrid.

Night 2 you were resurrected by Denul
Rashan was resurrected by unknown

Night 3 have to check but was that Thyrllan killed by unknown

Now night 4 approaches.

Pattern dictates there will be a resurrection.


Probably ressurection of Thyrllan if that's the case

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

Jalan and Osserc cleared leaves Nimander and Kilava and kilava did the strung post. There is no way he would know that word was in the ri pm so it has to be Nimander.


Or you

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:11 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 01 May 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

For me the suspect list is closer to five, including me, but it's not me. I'm more and more liking the idea that we have a would-be svengali on our hands. Could be Osseric. Could be Merrid. Could be someone else. And I'm liking the idea that they checked into the game early on too, out of anticipation of the role.


Svengali? Explain please


"The word "svengali" has come to refer to a person who, with evil intent, dominates, manipulates, and controls a creative person such as a singer or an actor. In court, a Svengali defense is a legal tactic that purports the defendant to be a pawn in the scheme of a greater, and more influential, criminal mastermind."


Sounds too complex to fit into a game of mafia, you'd be saying that say Merrid is an eager vig but actually he is the dark sorcerer but doesn't know it. That right?

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:12 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 07:10 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

So night one you were killed by unknown.

Rashan was killed by Merrid.

Night 2 you were resurrected by Denul
Rashan was resurrected by unknown

Night 3 have to check but was that Thyrllan killed by unknown

Now night 4 approaches.

Pattern dictates there will be a resurrection.


Probably ressurection of Thyrllan if that's the case

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

Jalan and Osserc cleared leaves Nimander and Kilava and kilava did the strung post. There is no way he would know that word was in the ri pm so it has to be Nimander.


Or you


Hence my "logical choice" wording above.

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 07:14 PM

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 02 May 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 02 May 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostJalan, on 01 May 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

For me the suspect list is closer to five, including me, but it's not me. I'm more and more liking the idea that we have a would-be svengali on our hands. Could be Osseric. Could be Merrid. Could be someone else. And I'm liking the idea that they checked into the game early on too, out of anticipation of the role.


Svengali? Explain please


"The word "svengali" has come to refer to a person who, with evil intent, dominates, manipulates, and controls a creative person such as a singer or an actor. In court, a Svengali defense is a legal tactic that purports the defendant to be a pawn in the scheme of a greater, and more influential, criminal mastermind."


Sounds too complex to fit into a game of mafia, you'd be saying that say Merrid is an eager vig but actually he is the dark sorcerer but doesn't know it. That right?


I think Jalan was just trying to say that Merrid might be manipulating us (and knows about it) with the eager vig thing

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