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Mafia 140 Game Thread - The Cults of Innsmouth

#281 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:57 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 09 March 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 11 hours and 46 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Okaros ( Bek Okhan, Mockra, Iparth Erule )
1 Vote for Bek Okhan ( Okaros )
1 Vote for Mockra ( Hanas )
1 Vote for Iparth Erule ( Alkend )

Players not voted: Gamelon, Kaschan, Serc, Trake


I thought I removed...

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:07 PM

A few things occur to me regarding Okaros' readup -

What is the basis for the Trake-Hanas link? A connected opposition to a vote? Seems pretty thin.

Why in the bloody blue blazes plaster the bodyguard role across the thread?

I don't like being randomly voted, therefore I am cult? In a game with a large number of roles, is it not possible that I may not want to go down to a stupid lynch early?

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:08 PM

OK, I just got caught up. I didn't particularly like Okaros's speculation on thread, that increases my suspicion that he may have been recruited.

Interesting that he is so blind for Gamelon. I'll have to do a quick read up on him.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:10 PM

View PostMockra, on 09 March 2017 - 02:57 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 09 March 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 11 hours and 46 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Okaros ( Bek Okhan, Mockra, Iparth Erule )
1 Vote for Bek Okhan ( Okaros )
1 Vote for Mockra ( Hanas )
1 Vote for Iparth Erule ( Alkend )

Players not voted: Gamelon, Kaschan, Serc, Trake


I thought I removed...



Sorry, I missed it because it was nested in a sentence.

It is Day 2. 11 hours and 28 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Mockra ( Hanas )
2 Votes for Okaros ( Bek Okhan, Iparth Erule )
1 Vote for Bek Okhan ( Okaros )
1 Vote for Iparth Erule ( Alkend )

Players not voted: Gamelon, Kaschan, Mockra, Serc, Trake
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:42 PM

Ok, it's a bit weird that most of the players who are looked at suspiciously are voting the person who's clearly at most a recruit. This is counter-productive as fuck.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:48 PM

It seems I missed the game where this role was introduced. Can someone bring me up to speed why we are speculating about what the bodyguard does like we all know the role?

I figured it was a martyr variant (i.e, it suffers whatever negative action was directed at the person that it is guarding). Am I wrong?

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:00 PM

Not going to be around much from now

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:22 PM

View PostBek Okhan, on 08 March 2017 - 05:52 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 March 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

My radar is hitting people. Fandy who was PI and now Serc the vig. So 3rd time lucky on my radar?

remove vote

Vote Bek


😁


Yeah, it's a good thing the RAF wasn't using your radar in WW2 or the Battle of Britain would have turned out very differently.

Vote Okaros



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View PostOkaros, on 08 March 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

So the only way to win this game is lynching cult and you purposefully witholding your vote makes you suspect.


Oh? You knew who was cult day 1? Game over.

vote Okaros

You are not helping town, therefore you must be cult.



View PostMockra, on 08 March 2017 - 10:55 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 08 March 2017 - 10:49 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 08 March 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

View PostHanas, on 08 March 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

Pfff, this game isn't that different. We have a finite number of shots to get rid of both leaders, and that's got to come from lynching unless Serc has a few more vigs up his sleeves. The chance of being wrong is the price we pay for the shot at taking down the scum, and that's as true in games with two cults as it is in a traditional town vs paired killers setup. Connections are nice, but at the end of the day you're lynching for the chance to kill your enemy.


I don't have anything else - for now. That has the possibility to change.

The difference I see in this game is town losing potentially 3 members per day to lynch/recruit in comparison to the usual 2 wcs. Now, admittedly it could be better than that and the two leaders could target the same player or they could be using recruits on each other's minions. I'm still looking at WCS for town though which places us even with both cults at the start of day 3.



I agree with WCS, I thought from the start this would be hard for town. I think that's why there's a bunch of roles though, to try and give town an initial leg up. However, if someone shoots the investigator straight out the gate, that makes it a little trickier...


My point in not voting day 1.

I'll remove vote for now. IMO Okaros is recruited.



View PostIparth Erule, on 09 March 2017 - 10:36 AM, said:

View PostTrake, on 09 March 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 09 March 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

So crossing off the list of potential recruiters, Serc (claims vig), Fanderay (was PI), Hanas and Trake (lovers), Mockra (bodyguard) which leaves

Kaschan, Alkend, Bek and Iparth.

Continuing to read up but odds are high that 2 of those 4 mentioned are the recruiter.


By speculating on what roles you think people have, you're giving a potential recruitment list to the recruiters.

Instead of saying who you don't think is a recruiter and why for every single person, the focus should be on who you think IS a recruiter and for what reasons.


This. Naming someone who could potentially block recruits? That has got to be about the most anti-town move possible.

Vote Okaros



Okay these are today's votes for okaros who is at most a recruit (I'm going to assume that, because if he fake-claimed coroner and no one countered then the actual. Coroner may have cost town the game). So given the pretty dire WCS we may be facing, those are un-productive votes.

Bek is omgusing, which would be fine on Day 1, but is really odd on Day 2.

Mockra's vote is also odd, and he removes once he "seems to get with the program" , which I'm not sure how I feel about.

IE is not approaching this as a cult game and he's voting okaros the way he would vote scum. This is bad, but it's consistent with how he played the game so far, so I'm actually less suspicious of this vote, even though I obviously don't like it.

So, I'm inclined to view Bek as the most likely cult. He's stressing too much over his role. Although I can understand possible town frustration over a shaky Day 1 lynch with a cool role, he's taking it beyond that, imo.

vote Bek Okhan

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:23 PM

View PostGamelon, on 09 March 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

It seems I missed the game where this role was introduced. Can someone bring me up to speed why we are speculating about what the bodyguard does like we all know the role?

I figured it was a martyr variant (i.e, it suffers whatever negative action was directed at the person that it is guarding). Am I wrong?


The role I assumed we were talking about is one that prevents a player from being recruited by the cult. It's not exactly a heal, so it is being called the 'bodyguard' instead. (But I'm not sure that I trust Okaros or his deductions enough to think that Mockra is likely to be that role).

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:32 PM

It is Day 2. 10 hours and 6 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Mockra ( Hanas )
2 Votes for Okaros ( Bek Okhan, Iparth Erule )
2 Votes for Bek Okhan ( Okaros, Gamelon )
1 Vote for Iparth Erule ( Alkend )

Players not voted: Kaschan, Mockra, Serc, Trake
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:39 PM

I'm back on mobile at work, but I should bbr able to check in regularly until EOD.

I'm willing to back against BO or IE. They've been playing rather similar games andI really could see either of them being a recruiter.

For now, I'm going to go with the name I've been seeing float up with suspicion from the majority of us. We as town habe had a habit of spring scum but failing to follow through on it lately, let's see if we can break that pattern.

Vote Bek

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:52 PM

I took a look at Gamelon's posts. He is actually one of the higher posters, and while he hasn't had oodles of content in them, it is only day 2.

Interesting that he followed Okaros vote on Bek after Okaros pointedly forgot him in his summary.

I'm going to take a look at the low posters over lunch.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:53 PM

It is Day 2. 9 hours and 45 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Gamelon, Hanas, Iparth Erule, Kaschan, Mockra, Okaros, Serc, Trake

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Mockra ( Hanas )
2 Votes for Okaros ( Bek Okhan, Iparth Erule )
3 Votes for Bek Okhan ( Okaros, Gamelon, Serc )
1 Vote for Iparth Erule ( Alkend )

Players not voted: Kaschan, Mockra, Trake
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:08 PM

As I said before, I'm leaning towards Bek also, if only to follow up on yesterday's suspicion. But also because of Okaros' very early vote on Serc today, which could be an attempt to get an early train started somewhere other than the previous day's lynch choice. When that went wrong (that is, Serc revealed), Okaros got busy and started speculating all sorts. Bek is one of their stated primary suspects, yes, but they also seem like they're really pushing for Iparth as an alternative. In what they say anyway. Okaros' vote, however, speaks different, and is the main reason why I'm going to continue holding off voting for a bit yet, as that vote certainly doesn't fit the rest of my suspicion.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:37 PM

You did it again.

edit: Deleted quote since he deleted his naked post. Serc posted the same thing in alt.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:39 PM

View PostTrake, on 09 March 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

As I said before, I'm leaning towards Bek also, if only to follow up on yesterday's suspicion. But also because of Okaros' very early vote on Serc today, which could be an attempt to get an early train started somewhere other than the previous day's lynch choice. When that went wrong (that is, Serc revealed), Okaros got busy and started speculating all sorts. Bek is one of their stated primary suspects, yes, but they also seem like they're really pushing for Iparth as an alternative. In what they say anyway. Okaros' vote, however, speaks different, and is the main reason why I'm going to continue holding off voting for a bit yet, as that vote certainly doesn't fit the rest of my suspicion.

Ah, but don't forget that there are two cult factions. Okaros may have (almost definitely was) recruited last night, but he'd still have plenty of reason to be looking for the enemy leader.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:41 PM

View PostMockra, on 09 March 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

View PostJPK, on 09 March 2017 - 05:35 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 09 March 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

As I said before, I'm leaning towards Bek also, if only to follow up on yesterday's suspicion. But also because of Okaros' very early vote on Serc today, which could be an attempt to get an early train started somewhere other than the previous day's lynch choice. When that went wrong (that is, Serc revealed), Okaros got busy and started speculating all sorts. Bek is one of their stated primary suspects, yes, but they also seem like they're really pushing for Iparth as an alternative. In what they say anyway. Okaros' vote, however, speaks different, and is the main reason why I'm going to continue holding off voting for a bit yet, as that vote certainly doesn't fit the rest of my suspicion.

Ah, but don't forget that there are two cult factions. Okaros may have (almost definitely was) recruited last night, but he'd still have plenty of reason to be looking for the enemy leader.


You did it again.


Fuck. I just changed my main acct to black background to avoid this in the future. I also posted exactly the same under the correct alt.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 05:47 PM

View PostSerc, on 09 March 2017 - 05:41 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 09 March 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

View PostJPK, on 09 March 2017 - 05:35 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 09 March 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

As I said before, I'm leaning towards Bek also, if only to follow up on yesterday's suspicion. But also because of Okaros' very early vote on Serc today, which could be an attempt to get an early train started somewhere other than the previous day's lynch choice. When that went wrong (that is, Serc revealed), Okaros got busy and started speculating all sorts. Bek is one of their stated primary suspects, yes, but they also seem like they're really pushing for Iparth as an alternative. In what they say anyway. Okaros' vote, however, speaks different, and is the main reason why I'm going to continue holding off voting for a bit yet, as that vote certainly doesn't fit the rest of my suspicion.

Ah, but don't forget that there are two cult factions. Okaros may have (almost definitely was) recruited last night, but he'd still have plenty of reason to be looking for the enemy leader.


You did it again.


Fuck. I just changed my main acct to black background to avoid this in the future. I also posted exactly the same under the correct alt.


The worst part is that I'd had this alt up under an incognito tab so I could keep track and post if need be, then opened up a regular tab for log-in to comment on something else and just mixed them up sand posted with my main.

Ah, fuck it, you all know who I am now. It won't happen again.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:10 PM

it's ok, my regular reverted to mobile skin, which is similar to the default IP board I use for the mafia alt (I use the Malaz skin for my regular account), and posted out of alt this morning. But I insta-deleted that :cat:

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:30 PM

View PostGamelon, on 09 March 2017 - 06:10 PM, said:

it's ok, my regular reverted to mobile skin, which is similar to the default IP board I use for the mafia alt (I use the Malaz skin for my regular account), and posted out of alt this morning. But I insta-deleted that :cat:


I tried, but Mockra was faat on the response.

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